The latter of the two groups I mentioned have done so much damage to the former by making everything an emotional argument. You cant have a fruitful discussion with someone who puts feelings above logic. No point talking with these people, as they feel the whole essence of them being a "good human" rides on irrational views.
I was using a bit of hyperbole in my previous post though, we arent doomed at all. All the time i see people scratching their head when they look at how things are turning out after the flood of social/environmental justice over the last decade or so. Its only a matter of time.