response to Tips up's question from the halibut poll thread.
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Thanks for emailing with your questions. I will do my best to answer them here, but if you have more questions or anything is unclear please do not hesitate to call or email again.
When you apply for a licence to participate in the experimental recreational halibut fishery, you will receive a licence and then will be required to buy at least 1 lb of quota before heading out to fish. You will only be able to fish using the experimental licence until Dec 31 (the experimental fishery closes on that date). However, if you have not used all of your quota (i.e., if you have not caught as many pounds of halibut as you have quota for) there are a few options for you:
1) you can apply to lease your quota back to the commercial sector by dealing with a commercial fisherman that may want to purchase your quota or through a quota brokerage program.
2) You can carry over up to 200lbs or 10% of your uncaught quota (which ever value is larger) into 2013. When the fishery begins again in 2013 you will be required to apply for a licence again and that uncaught quota will be allocated to your 2013 licence.
If you do not lease uncaught quota back to the commercial sector, or apply to participate again in 2013, you will be forgoing the quota that you leased.
Also, keep in mind that if you catch more halibut than the amount of quota you had originally purchased, you will be required to lease more quota to cover off that catch by January 31.
The experimental recreational halibut program is designed to offer further recreational fishing opportunities, beyond the regular recreational limits of 1 daily and 2 in possession, and beyond the season closure should it come earlier than desired (as it has in 2011 and 2012). As it is a voluntary program, you are under no obligation to participate and you still have the same access to the regular recreational fishery through your tidal water sport fishing licence. Due to decreases in halibut abundance over the past decade, the total allowable catch (TAC) of halibut has declined, thus the amount of fish available to both the recreational and commercial fishing sectors has declined. In order to maintain the halibut as a sustainable resource it is imperative that we manage the fisheries within the Canadian TAC. Management measures such as a decrease in daily and possession limits, shortening the season, and imposing size restrictions, are some of the tools we use to ensure halibut catch in the recreational fishery remains within the TAC. Thus the experimental recreational halibut fishery aims to provide more opportunities, when limits are low or the season is shortened, by providing access to the commercial quota over and above the regular recreational fishery, to recreational harvesters that are interested in participating.
I hope I've been helpful in answering your questions. Do be sure to check out the website for more info (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/commercial/ground-fond/halibut-fletan/index-eng.htm), or give me a call.
Cheers,
Chantelle
Chantelle Caron
A/ Halibut and Sablefish Coordinator
Fisheries and Aquaculture Management | Direction des pêches et de l'aquaculture
Fisheries and Oceans Canada | Pêches et Océans Canada
Vancouver, Canada V6C 3S4
chantelle.caron@dfo-mpo.gc.ca
Telephone | Téléphone 604-666-0912
Facsimile | Télécopieur 604-666-8525
Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada
heres a link on how to purchase quota......http://www.iqmi.ca/
When you apply for a licence to participate in the experimental recreational halibut fishery, you will receive a licence and then will be required to buy at least 1 lb of quota before heading out to fish. You will only be able to fish using the experimental licence until Dec 31 (the experimental fishery closes on that date). However, if you have not used all of your quota (i.e., if you have not caught as many pounds of halibut as you have quota for) there are a few options for you:
1) you can apply to lease your quota back to the commercial sector by dealing with a commercial fisherman that may want to purchase your quota or through a quota brokerage program.
2) You can carry over up to 200lbs or 10% of your uncaught quota (which ever value is larger) into 2013. When the fishery begins again in 2013 you will be required to apply for a licence again and that uncaught quota will be allocated to your 2013 licence.
If you do not lease uncaught quota back to the commercial sector, or apply to participate again in 2013, you will be forgoing the quota that you leased.
Also, keep in mind that if you catch more halibut than the amount of quota you had originally purchased, you will be required to lease more quota to cover off that catch by January 31.
The experimental recreational halibut program is designed to offer further recreational fishing opportunities, beyond the regular recreational limits of 1 daily and 2 in possession, and beyond the season closure should it come earlier than desired (as it has in 2011 and 2012). As it is a voluntary program, you are under no obligation to participate and you still have the same access to the regular recreational fishery through your tidal water sport fishing licence. Due to decreases in halibut abundance over the past decade, the total allowable catch (TAC) of halibut has declined, thus the amount of fish available to both the recreational and commercial fishing sectors has declined. In order to maintain the halibut as a sustainable resource it is imperative that we manage the fisheries within the Canadian TAC. Management measures such as a decrease in daily and possession limits, shortening the season, and imposing size restrictions, are some of the tools we use to ensure halibut catch in the recreational fishery remains within the TAC. Thus the experimental recreational halibut fishery aims to provide more opportunities, when limits are low or the season is shortened, by providing access to the commercial quota over and above the regular recreational fishery, to recreational harvesters that are interested in participating.
I hope I've been helpful in answering your questions. Do be sure to check out the website for more info (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/commercial/ground-fond/halibut-fletan/index-eng.htm), or give me a call.
Cheers,
Chantelle
Chantelle Caron
A/ Halibut and Sablefish Coordinator
Fisheries and Aquaculture Management | Direction des pêches et de l'aquaculture
Fisheries and Oceans Canada | Pêches et Océans Canada
Vancouver, Canada V6C 3S4
chantelle.caron@dfo-mpo.gc.ca
Telephone | Téléphone 604-666-0912
Facsimile | Télécopieur 604-666-8525
Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada
heres a link on how to purchase quota......http://www.iqmi.ca/
commies r not going buy back the quota u bought from them! She told me on the phone "It works on the honor system" for catch accountablity,and why r the commies allowed to sell us quota anyway? They should have to forfit their catch like were supposto do if we buy quota but dont use it!
wstcoaster
Member
instead of worring about allocation or receiving more of it ; lets start finding how to live with what we have or whats given; more thought could be given how to stay in our limit now or in future years
ziggy
Well-Known Member
I think once the allocation is seen as fair, your suggestion has some merit. Until then you are simply suggesting capitulation to commercial quota owners.Personally the more I read on this issue the more I think Slipper Skippers are receipients of nothing more than large,unearned, annual welfare payments from the people of Canada. I'm pretty disgusted and will write to my MP to express this.
fish4all
Well-Known Member
Are there any numbers as to the amount of fish held by retired fishermen (slipper skipper is a term given to a skipper that does not leave the wheelhouse) that got the quota when it was first allocated? I know FN hold 17% of the TAC that goes straight into the lease pool every year at top dollar.
ziggy
Well-Known Member
As I read it in the other thread fish4all, (pg13) 79% of the quota is owned by non fishing/retired fishermen. I assume that would include the 17% you mention? If so, assumimg this is accurate, 62% of the former fishermen own quota and don't fish, just cash a cheque.This can't be good for either commercial or recreational fishermen. Kind of like the old landlord/serf relationship for the commercial guys.
Newbies to halibut fishing got a free increase in TAC last year but it wasn't enough. We are welfare, EI collecting guides and want more free halibut from those EI collecting commies. It doesn't matter how many lives the ITQ has saved over the years we don't like it. We want our halibut, and we want it for nothing (but we will charge our customers top dollar to catch it). We wouldn't want to be a user pay society and just pay a bit more for licenses each year and slowly buy the commies out. Instead let's keep whining about a system we don't really understand the history of. Pathetic!!
GLG
Well-Known Member
You commercial guys make me laugh.
You add your two cents in but know not what you speak.
The halibut resource is not yours...
The halibut resource is not the governments...
The halibut resource belongs to the people of Canada.
Get it?
I have used a guide and I have used my own boat to fish for halibut.
Either way it does not matter as I am the one that is harvesting my food.
You commercial guys might have a leg to stand on if you were harvesting for the Canadian market.
But the fact is the majority of your catch is sent to the US to feed the restaurant trade.
Soon as that fish crosses the boarder that's when the added value is placed on the Canadian TAC.
So you see, we as Canadians, get very little value from your fat % of the Canadian TAC.
Should we just put your group in the "strip and ship" column of Canadians?
Make a quick buck and to hell with any one else.
Put your house in order and start acting like Canadians not the new world order commys.
Tell the fed's that your not going to take this ******** quota system anymore.
Fish the quota or let it go to someone who will fish it.
You want a retirement package?
Do what the rest of us do and get an RRSP.
Make sure the Canadian TAC is used for the benefit of all Canadians first before export.
Can't you see the deference between right and wrong....
Or has money clouded your judgment.......
GLG
You add your two cents in but know not what you speak.
The halibut resource is not yours...
The halibut resource is not the governments...
The halibut resource belongs to the people of Canada.
Get it?
I have used a guide and I have used my own boat to fish for halibut.
Either way it does not matter as I am the one that is harvesting my food.
You commercial guys might have a leg to stand on if you were harvesting for the Canadian market.
But the fact is the majority of your catch is sent to the US to feed the restaurant trade.
Soon as that fish crosses the boarder that's when the added value is placed on the Canadian TAC.
So you see, we as Canadians, get very little value from your fat % of the Canadian TAC.
Should we just put your group in the "strip and ship" column of Canadians?
Make a quick buck and to hell with any one else.
Put your house in order and start acting like Canadians not the new world order commys.
Tell the fed's that your not going to take this ******** quota system anymore.
Fish the quota or let it go to someone who will fish it.
You want a retirement package?
Do what the rest of us do and get an RRSP.
Make sure the Canadian TAC is used for the benefit of all Canadians first before export.
Can't you see the deference between right and wrong....
Or has money clouded your judgment.......
GLG
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fish4all
Well-Known Member
Thanks ziggy. I have seen that number before. I was curious if there was any dfo paper that stated the amount. I know with there counting process they tend to double count a lot of transfers as fish can be moved 3-4 times before it is caught.
ziggy
Well-Known Member
I guess the best way to find out would be an access to Information request to DFO?It only costs $5
fish4all
Well-Known Member
I've tried going through DFO ground fish unit a while back. Not much help there as they don't seem to track quota that way
ziggy
Well-Known Member
Interesting, you'd think they would have to know who had a quota for fishing and where it came from if it was over and above theirs?. If they don't track where the quota is from, how do they know it's legit? Did you request the info via Access to info? They can't just BS you if you've made a AI request, if you just ask, they'll tell you whatever is easiest.?
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