Pulling a Hali anchor setup

[Macdeep]

So I built a Hali anchor system- 600ft rope, ~30ft chain and a 10lb danforth anchor (not 100% it’s 10lb), big Scotsman with the SS ring, crab float to jam in the ring with 30ft safety line that’s on a slider from the bow to stern line.

It works great to set up and hold a boat in the current. Worked with a work boat (21ft thunder jet aluminum) and holds my Malibu 182 glass boat.

My trouble is pulling the anchor. I loop around and head up current to avoid getting the line in the prop. The Scotsman does its dance as I pass it and give it full throttle. I giver for a while till it seems like the anchor should be at the buoy but when I start pulling line from the surface, when I get to the Scotsman the anchor is never there and I always have to pull the last bit by hand which is ok I guess but I’ve been on guided trips where the SS loop catches rhe anchor and when you get to the Scotsman you just lift the chain in and then you’re there.

Any tips to get the anchor and chain all the way to the Scotsman and save me 200ft of pulling?

 

[ship happens]

Is your rope spliced to your chain?

 

[Flashman]

You might not be pulling for long enough. You will see a change in the wave/splash around the scotchman when the anchor is all the way up. It's very clear when it happens.

 

[Macdeep]

Here’s some pics of my set up.

Not spliced to the chain, just a link to loop if you will. See photos.

But ya I guess I just have to pull longer and wait for the “change” in the waves around the Scotsman?

I’ve YouTubed it but not sure if my anchor and chain is too heavy with how hard my boat can pull or? Will definitely be practicing more this seasons.

 

[Rigby]

The chain needs to weigh more than the anchor otherwise the anchor just pulls everything back down.

 

[ship happens]

Splice the rope to the chain. No clips no knots

 

[Saxe Point]

Here’s some pics of my set up.

Not spliced to the chain, just a link to loop if you will. See photos.

But ya I guess I just have to pull longer and wait for the “change” in the waves around the Scotsman?

I’ve YouTubed it but not sure if my anchor and chain is too heavy with how hard my boat can pull or? Will definitely be practicing more this seasons.

That quick link connection is fine - no need for a splice. It will pass through fine the ring just fine.

 

[ziggy]

Sometimes if there is a bit of chop the anchor can let go when you introduce slack on recovery. Maybe you are also thinking it’s up and it if fact just the link hooking on the ring? Once it dives give her a good long pull and maybe some extra throttle? Important to make sure the connection to the chain can’t hang up on your Scotsman ring.

 

[Fisher_dude]

I use the link connection on my setup when I need to add more or take some out. Never had a problem.

 

[Fisher_dude]

The only thing I can think of is maybe that thinner ring is getting stuck on the anchor/chain where it connects. Pretty sure my rings are 3/8” thick.

 

[Macdeep]

Sometimes if there is a bit of chop the anchor can let go when you introduce slack on recovery. Maybe you are also thinking it’s up and it if fact just the link hooking on the ring? Once it dives give her a good long pull and maybe some extra throttle? Important to make sure the connection to the chain can’t hang up on your Scotsman ring.

Ya it was flat as yesterday when i was playing around.

Was at max throttle but the boat was a struggling lol

Gave it a pull for what I thought was far enough but perhaps I need to pull longer.

Got one more weekend and a few more evenings to play around before I head out on a trip where I’ll want to be dialed in.

 

[Macdeep]

The only thing I can think of is maybe that thinner ring is getting stuck on the anchor/chain where it connects. Pretty sure my rings are 3/8” thick.

Ya I’ll take a second look. Seems the most likely suspect

 

[wolf]

Here’s some pics of my set up.

Not spliced to the chain, just a link to loop if you will. See photos.

Nothing wrong with that I have 2 links like that and never a problem, as I add and remove links of rode. You dont need to go screeming fast either just a nice even pace you will know it is hittting chain as the scotsman wil bob up and down going thru it.

 

[Macdeep]

Nothing wrong with that I have 2 links like that and never a problem, as I add and remove links of rode. You dont need to go screeming fast either just a nice even pace you will know it is hittting chain as the scotsman wil bob up and down going thru it.

Roger dodger- I’ll just have to practice I guess. Get a visual sense of 400 vs 600ft and get a sense of what the Scotsman does when it hooks up properly.

Here comes another excuse to get out next weekend

 

[Hot-Streak]

I'd get more chain so there is more weight to counter the anchor slipping back through the ring. Also consider switching to a bruce/claw anchor as the the fluke of your current danforth style anchor maybe not letting the ring slip all the wy up.

 

[Macdeep]

I'd get more chain so there is more weight to counter the anchor slipping back through the ring. Also consider switching to a bruce/claw anchor as the the fluke of your current danforth style anchor maybe not letting the ring slip all the wy up.

I do have another 10-15ft of chain available.

Will the different anchor style make a real difference?

 

[WB59]

You have almost identical system as mine . You just need to pull longer maybe even a bit faster mine works fine the first I did it I had the same issue as you . next time i pulled it longer like mentioned above, you will notice a difference in the bouy .. if not sure pull it even longer

 

[Captain PartyMarty]

I think you Scotchman is too small, if you don't get enough resistance from it in water the weight of the chain and anchor will find a balance point between the drag of the Scotchman and the chain won't pull further though the loop.

 

[Flashman]

A huge Scotchman isn't necessary. I pull a 4kg rocna with about 20' of chain using a G5 polyform bumper.

 

[Fishtank]

While we are on this topic, anybody have any problems with the scotchman dragging when you first start your pull? I find it drags 40ft behind the boat at first. I have to slow down and get someone to tug the anchor line until the scotchman pops up more upright. Smooth after that though