Posession Limit

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To make it clear, you ARE ALLOWED to have someone transport your catch for you. It clearly says so in the regs:

"To transport another person’s sport-caught fish, you must carry a letter from that person with their signature, stating you are authorized to transport the fish.

The letter must state:

the fisher’s name
complete address
telephone number
fishing licence number
when and where the fish were caught
the number, species and size of fish
name of recipient
address of recipient
date of receipt
reason for transport"


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So to me this would give a person permission to send their 2 day limit home with a friend and continue to fish for another 2 days and continue retaining salmon. Check it for your self, its in the regs http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/publications/docs/package-emballage-eng.htm#Packaging%20your%20Salmon
 
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As well boys,, when it is at home in your deep freeze its still considered your possession limit and limits can not be exeeded. Until it is consumed all fish go as in your possession.
 
As well boys,, when it is at home in your deep freeze its still considered your possession limit and limits can not be exeeded. Until it is consumed all fish go as in your possession.

Nice try! Where did you come up with that one?

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/gloss/index-eng.htm

"POSSESSION LIMIT - the number of fish of any species that an angler may have in his/her possession at any given time, except at place of ordinary residence. In most instances, the possession limit is two times the daily limit for that species, however there are exceptions. The aggregate possession limit (total possession limit) for Pacific Salmon from tidal and non-tidal waters combined is eight. Not more than four of which can be Chinook. Check the limits and management measures tables for specific limits by species."
 
To make it clear, you ARE ALLOWED to have someone transport your catch for you. It clearly says so in the regs:

"To transport another person’s sport-caught fish, you must carry a letter from that person with their signature, stating you are authorized to transport the fish.

The letter must state:

the fisher’s name
complete address
telephone number
fishing licence number
when and where the fish were caught
the number, species and size of fish
name of recipient
address of recipient
date of receipt
reason for transport"


end quote....

So to me this would give a person permission to send their 2 day limit home with a friend and continue to fish for another 2 days and continue retaining salmon. Check it for your self, its in the regs http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/publications/docs/package-emballage-eng.htm#Packaging%20your%20Salmon

Not to me,

TO me that says how to ship it with someone, no where in there does it say once you send it with someone you can keep fishing and it supercedes the possesion limit verbage.
 
Nice try! Where did you come up with that one?

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/gloss/index-eng.htm

"POSSESSION LIMIT - the number of fish of any species that an angler may have in his/her possession at any given time, except at place of ordinary residence. In most instances, the possession limit is two times the daily limit for that species, however there are exceptions. The aggregate possession limit (total possession limit) for Pacific Salmon from tidal and non-tidal waters combined is eight. Not more than four of which can be Chinook. Check the limits and management measures tables for specific limits by species."

Well smart azz,, I never tried anything obviously just a misunderstanding on my behalf. I guess I just got a bit of our regs from Alberta mixed up. In Alberta what you have at home always counts as being in your possession.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, and thx I guess for being so gracious in pointing it out..
 
As a side note here what about giving fish away? I often show up and donate fish to the landlock folks fishing off the dock. Secondarily I am also curious as to the issues of fishing with kids.
My 5 an 8 year old sons were out toughing it out with me. They have their own liscense and reeled in lots of fish to the best of thier ability, but when it comes to getting the fish in the boat and under control they need lots of help. Where is the line between those fish being theirs or mine when it comes time to tag it?? To be clear they are not tall enough to remove the rod from the rigger holder, but are handed the rod and they reel it all the way to the boat, an adult then takes over to help land and prevent prop entanglment. OR halibut/ling take the bait, and kid just starts cranking with the rod in the gunnel holder until they are worn out or the fish can be gaffed. Who should tag these tag teamed fish, espeially whenl many are done this way? The kids usually help with lots of fish. Heck it seems every fish on the boat is a team effot no matter whether its kids or adults. Is every liscense on the boat entitiled to a limit? Or just the adults? Where's DFO position on this?

Copro
 
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i gift fish all the time.....
as far as kids catching,,, as long as they take part in the reeling in, its still there fish. you only helped the fisher...it goes on their licence, and yes this rule can be abused like many others, but really it comes down to the conscience of the person who is running the boat. IMO
 
As a side note here what about giving fish away? I often show up and donate fish to the landlock folks fishing off the dock. Secondarily I am also curious as to the issues of fishing with kids.
My 5 an 8 year old sons were out toughing it out with me. They have their own liscense and reeled in lots of fish to the best of thier ability, but when it comes to getting the fish in the boat and under control they need lots of help. Where is the line between those fish being theirs or mine when it comes time to tag it?? To be clear they are not tall enough to remove the rod from the rigger holder, but are handed the rod and they reel it all the way to the boat, an adult then takes over to help land and prevent prop entanglment. OR halibut/ling take the bait, and kid just starts cranking with the rod in the gunnel holder until they are worn out or the fish can be gaffed. Who should tag these tag teamed fish, espeially whenl many are done this way? The kids usually help with lots of fish. Heck it seems every fish on the boat is a team effot no matter whether its kids or adults. Is every liscense on the boat entitiled to a limit? Or just the adults? Where's DFO position on this?

Copro

Every valid license gets a limit, even the kids. Don't even think twice about it.

And you can give your fish away but if it's a spring then it has to be written on your license immediately after you catch it. Also, the person receiving the fish, if they don't have a license with a salmon stamp and that spring written on it, they could get hassled by DFO if caught as well.

But if it's not a spring and both you and the person receiving the fish have licenses with salmon stamps, who cares. I doubt any DFO officer would say a thing about that. Just don't try and push the limits like bring home five salmon with the intention of giving one to the guys at the dock.
 
Just don't try and push the limits like bring home five salmon with the intention of giving one to the guys at the dock.[/QUOTE]


obviously illegal ....
 
Also, the person receiving the fish, if they don't have a license with a salmon stamp and that spring written on it, they could get hassled by DFO if caught as well.

Absolutely ! If they don't have a license, they should have a note from the "gift giver" with their license number on the note.




Sent from my iPad when I should be fishing.
 
OK I am surprised at how many people are fishing and don't know the rules. Get a BC Sports fishing guide and READ IT. POSSESSION LIMIT for CHINOOK Salmon is 4. Plan and simple. Whether you are in the Queen Charlottes and paying $4000.00 - $6000.00 for a 3-4 night stay you are only aloud to bring home 4 Chinook, So you better keep the big ones. LOL. You are aloud 8 Salmon total. So example 4 Chinook and 4 Hatchery Coho. That would be your possession. You are doing fishing until those fish are back home of residence and in your freezer. Thats why it is best to stay close to home. Daily limit however is 2 Chinook. Its very simple stop trying to abuse the system and enjoy fishing. Its called fishing for a reason cause if it was called catching how much fun would that be. Know the rulles before you lauch for each area you are fishing on the West coast.
 
Just curious but has anyone ever seen DFO do vehicle spot-checks on the Island? When I used to live in Ontario, we'd see the fisheries officers do random traffic stops outside the parks and hotspots, but I've never seen that in my 15+ years fishing in BC.
 
Have been stopped on the Hump coming out of Port Alberni a few years ago, and freinds were checked at the ferries inside the compound...
 
DFO Checks

Every year about sept 1 they have a road check on the road from renfrew to lake cowichan along with the local RCMP looking for drivers who have had too many woobly pops.
 
They have them all over the Island but seem to usually pick popular spot's. I have seen them coming out of Ucluelet, Tofino, Telegraph Cove, and have seen them at the Y just as you hit the dirt heading to China Creek. The pull out with the little park along Sproat Lake had a major one a few years ago with the whole parade of DFO, RCMP, and MOT. These are just some area's that I have seen them and I am sure they are around down South and up North Island.

Just make sure you have done nothing wrong and all will be fine. Read the regulations and then read them 3 more times. If you have a question there is a phone number you can call.

Personally I would like to see some more enforcement out there. JMO.
 
So lets really muddy the waters. Lets say I'm a kayak fisher who ventures up to Nootka Sound for the weekend. So I can't fish with family or friends. Get my 4 springs and leave for CR in my 100% electric car with kayak strapped to the roof. I drop my 4 spings off at the CR depot for St jeans. they are really busy with a bumper sockeye year and it will be 6 to 8 weeks before I get my fish back. These fish I'm canning to give to a Victoria Food bank and figure cans will less likely be wasted and will last long enough to be consumed. Now I want to go fishing for my fish....but summer ends before I get these fish back.... to give away!!! Just stretching things to show you how DFO makes rules with the right intent, but not very well thought through.
 
So lets really muddy the waters. Lets say I'm a kayak fisher who ventures up to Nootka Sound for the weekend. So I can't fish with family or friends. Get my 4 springs and leave for CR in my 100% electric car with kayak strapped to the roof. I drop my 4 spings off at the CR depot for St jeans. they are really busy with a bumper sockeye year and it will be 6 to 8 weeks before I get my fish back. These fish I'm canning to give to a Victoria Food bank and figure cans will less likely be wasted and will last long enough to be consumed. Now I want to go fishing for my fish....but summer ends before I get these fish back.... to give away!!! Just stretching things to show you how DFO makes rules with the right intent, but not very well thought through.

It is always possible to imagine some hypothetical scenario that suggests that the rules may not operate as intended. But the reality is that the rules must be crafted with a considerable degree of generality to capture the essential rationale and purpose of the rule. It is simply impractical, and probably impossible, to craft rules that deal with the moral and ethical nuances of every conceivable situation. Moreover, the rules have to be readily understandable for those who must abide by them.

Your hypothetical is only superficially sympathetic as it relies on a future intention. You intend to to gift the fish, but until you have done so, they are in your possession, simple as that. Your intention could change and you could end up keeping them for yourself. To avoid the conundrum, just give the fish immediately to the lucky beneficiaries and recommend that they can them!

In fairness to those who pass the laws, I don't think we should ask for fishing regulations to be crafted based on what a fisher intends or plans to do with fish that are caught. I think it is obvious that drafting such laws, let alone enforcing them, would be utterly impossible.
 
So lets really muddy the waters. Lets say I'm a kayak fisher who ventures up to Nootka Sound for the weekend. So I can't fish with family or friends. Get my 4 springs and leave for CR in my 100% electric car with kayak strapped to the roof. I drop my 4 spings off at the CR depot for St jeans. they are really busy with a bumper sockeye year and it will be 6 to 8 weeks before I get my fish back. These fish I'm canning to give to a Victoria Food bank and figure cans will less likely be wasted and will last long enough to be consumed. Now I want to go fishing for my fish....but summer ends before I get these fish back.... to give away!!! Just stretching things to show you how DFO makes rules with the right intent, but not very well thought through.

I think in reality if your fish are at st.jeans or some other place for processing and they aren't comming back for 6-8 weeks, you can go catch a fish and be happy ,common sense I think.
 
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