new kicker needed--opinions?

Thought I'd throw my two cents in. I have a lot smaller boat than everyone posting here. Its a 17' whaler so not too heavy. I was pushing it along just fine with a Johnson 2 stroke 6hp, but I was getting sick of sitting in the blue cloud. I tiller steer it so I'm right at the motor.

Two years ago I ordered a new Yammy 6 horse 4 stroke, but the dealer messed up and delivered an 8 horse. He couldn't return it so he made me a good deal and I got the 8 for only a couple hundred more than the 6.

I can't say enough good about the motor. It has run flawlessly for two years now. Its extremely quiet, clean running, and always easy to start. Gas consumption is ridiculous. I got a dinky little 10 litre tank with it and I planned on throwing it out as being too small. But after measuring my gas use per hour over the first summer, I found I used .50 to .6 litres per hour, or about 15-20 hours on the little tank. Thats at trolling speed and I only need about the bottom 10% of the throttle to troll with my boat.

Another big benefit over two strokes is throttle control. It has a very fine adjustment for speed, so you can pick the trolling speed you want and it stays there. My old two stroke had a horrible habit of wanting to either rev up or drop down at a certain speed and it required constant throttle adjustment.

My buddy has a Honda 9.9 hi thrust (on a 19' welded aluminum boat) and it pushes it just fine. He too has had an excellent experience with his Honda.

You cant go wrong with either a Honda or Yammy four stroke. I would stay away from the other brands in the small four strokes - I've heard of a few bad experiences with the small Mercs.

Cheers,

bob
 
Call S&G power. I do beleive its possible. Its easy to run your kicker off the hydraulics for your big motor. Lots of guys are doing it now but I don't know abpout the remote control part.

Last Autumn I had the chance to fish in a boat with remote control hooked up to the GPS. It actually did seem to be able to follow a tack fairly well, but it was downright distracting and annoying seeing the motor move all over the place by itself. The things don't seem to have any middle ground. It was always overcorrecting one way and then the next. Kind of like letting your guests run your boat while you're setting up the gear on a windy day!

Personally I didn't like it, but I believe it could be quite useful for the guy who fishes alone a lot of the time.

Bob
 
I have heard from a couple of reputable distribution sources that the electric remote hydrolic systems have not lasted even a season on most guide boats that purchased them for saltwater applications.This has me steereing away from them. At around a g-note it would be a bummer to have it fail mid season. Yet you may never have a problem, who knows? Most larger boats seem to be predominently using either the ez steer connection with a seperate throttle box, or even the complete teleflex system with a wheel and binnacle mounted right on the transom or on the back of the cabin. I can't make up my mind and hate drilling holes, so i am still steering manually up front with the ez steer or out back on the tiller on nice days. Some times simplicity is best on the west coast as murphys law does dictate and can poke his nose out when you least suspect !!! 2006 9.9hp HT power tilt would be great over the 8hp especially on that "murphy" run, from Big bank or swiftsure.



Edited by - maddog on 10/14/2005 12:08:16
 
Well--people are passionate about their choices, aren't they! I am still looking but have lots of time to choose. I am leaning toward Yamaha but if a good deal came up on a Honda that was in good shape, I would probably take that.
T2
 
Thank you forum members for all your helpful input.
Got the remote steering idea from a C/R guide out of April Point-OBG. Thought it was a bit silly at first, until the double header with all hands scrambling. But even with just one on, having the remote velcroed to his belt freed up the other guy to retrieve the 2nd line & downrigger. When it was time to dip the net, he was at the side of the boat adjusting course, instead of at the rear steering manually.
Anyway Maddog says could be a G-note, bit much for me... may have to stick to eze-steer.
 
Thought I'd let those people know that were kind enough to share their advice on kickers that I settled for a used 2005 9.9 4 stroke Yamaha high thrust. I hope to try it out soon on the winter springs. See you out there.
T2
 
Tsquared give me a call ill join you for some winter spring action when i get back from sask chasing whitetail

Wolf
 
Have a Yamaha 8HP -high thrust- 4 stroke on an 18 ft Livingston runs exceptionaly well , no problems , delighted with it, fished for 40 plus years and this is the finest kicker I have owned.
My advice is to buy a Yamaha.
 
Man touchy subject.I have been running a yam 9.9 four for about 6 years.It has never let me down and it has hundreds of hours on it.Someone suggested parker marine in campbell river.I agree.If you go? ask for John.You would be hard pressed to find a better guy and dealer than them.To be honest John is one of my hunting partners so I know him well.Ps He can't hit the broad side of a barn..
 
quote:All right, I just got off the phone with our Yamaha dealer and here's a solution that should make everyone happy!
For 2006 Yamaha will be producing a 9.9 high thrust kicker with power tilt\trim.

aYup<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>Had one on order for a spell now. Ran a 20 Yammy all summer, just didn't like packing all the weight. Hoping the 9.9 will be enough for the 24 footer.

Largely a good read, and helps confirm what I've heard about the high-thrust.

Cheers,
Nog

PS: Wolf,Headed to the FlatLands chasing white myself, tomorrow. Good luck & Straight Shootin'
 
I'll call you in a couple of weeks, Wolf. Good luck with the whitetails.
T2
 
quote:
I find this thread quite interesting for a couple reasons.
1) Guys can get quite 'testy' when it comes to their power, but in the end it's whatever works best for the boat and your unique circumstance that counts.
2) I'm about to install an 8hp Yamaha with power tilt/trim on my 18' Crestliner I/O. According to the varied opinions expressed here, I've made the right choice.
I'm interested in installing a hydraulic actuator with remote control for steering, any opinions? I already have hydraulic power steering on my main, can I tap into that system for my kicker (without powering up the main)? Any ideas who could do a professional installation on this setup, I'm in the Victoria area?

One option is an Auto Pilot for your Kicker. The one I have is hydraulic powered driven by a gyro compass and it can be slaved to you gps for tolling to waypoints etc. It has a remote control with a long cord or you can get a wireless remote. I have perhaps a 800hrs on mine with flawless service - I will never own a fishing boat with out one.

Heading hold
Trottle controll with idle/Resume
Step turns programable up to 1-90degrees steps
Zig-Zag Turns
GPS Interface - drives to waypoints
MOB
Trolls Circles and Cloverleaf


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Down here in Oregon it getting hard to find a well rigged boats without them. A real life saver if you fish with children or alone. That an you can drive the kicker for the warmth of the cabin.



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