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I think the SRKW issue sucks, but right now the salmon allocation is the one that will completely shut the industry down coast wide in BC, and very quickly if it were changed and implemented as commercial/FN want. Plus we are stuck with it once it's done. Not many anglers are understanding it.

I find we are crossing two distinct issues all over the place which is hiding how serious the allocation change is. Anyone going to Ottawa should be focusing on allocation right now.

Don't get my wrong the SRKW is extremely but the allocation thing is absolutely scary. It also has implications for halibut, and any other species we fish for.

I hear what you’re saying but I think it’s kind of a “chicken and egg” scenario because there won’t be anywhere to fish if some of the closures proposed in the name of SRKW protection are implemented. Ignoring either issue to focus on the other could have devastating consequences.
 
Quick query, I’ve been a long time BCWF / local Fish and Game member (from the interior) but what are the other associations/organizations where membership is important and they have some stroke in advocacy? Is it primarily the public fisheries alliance? I see south Vancouver island coalition as well but haven’t taken the time to understand linkages between various groups
BCWF
 
Need to be phoning everyone of these MP’s.
Adding onto Aces info above, This a hyper link and phone number to all BC MPs. As Aces mentions time to start contact your MPs to inform them of your concerns on this matter.

Conservative MPs
dan.albas@parl.gc.ca 1-800-665-8711

scott.anderson@parl.gc.ca 250-220-0320

mel.arnold@parl.gc.ca 1-800-665-5040

chak.au@parl.gc.ca 604-235-8990

Marc.Dalton@parl.gc.ca 604-466-2761

frank.caputo@parl.gc.ca 250-851-4991

todd.doherty@parl.gc.ca 250-564-7771

sukhman.gill@parl.gc.ca 778-327-2454

aaron.gunn@parl.gc.ca 250-434-0300

jeff.kibble@parl.gc.ca 1-866-609-9998

tamara.kronis@parl.gc.ca 1-866-390-7550

helena.konanz@parl.gc.ca 250-244-0505

Rob.Morrison@parl.gc.ca 250-417-2250

ellis.ross@parl.gc.ca 250-434-0456

Mark.Strahl@parl.gc.ca 604-847-9711

Tako.VanPopta@parl.gc.ca 604-534-5955

Brad.Vis@parl.gc.ca 604-814-5710

bob.zimmer@parl.gc.ca 250-787-1192


Liberal MPs

Patrick.Weiler@parl.gc.ca 604-913-2660

jonathan.wilkinson@parl.gc.ca 604-775-6333

jake.sawatzky@parl.gc.ca 604-775-5707

randeep.sarai@parl.gc.ca 604-589-2441

gurbux.saini@parl.gc.ca 604-484-6161

zoe.royer@parl.gc.ca 778-786-2595

taleeb.noormohamed@parl.gc.ca: 604-717-1140

gregor.robertson@parl.gc.ca 236-203-2211

stephanie.mclean@parl.gc.ca 250-244-9988

jill.mcknight@parl.gc.ca 778-593-4007

ron.mckinnon@parl.gc.ca 604-927-1080

ernie.klassen@parl.gc.ca 604-678-0220

wade.grant@parl.gc.ca 778-331-1245

will.greaves@parl.gc.ca 1-866-757-4762

stephen.fuhr@parl.gc.ca 250-244-8200

hedy.fry@parl.gc.ca 604-666-0135

sukh.dhaliwal@parl.gc.ca 604-598-2200

wade.chang@parl.gc.ca 778-330-0505

terry.beech@parl.gc.ca 604-718-8870

parm.bains@parl.gc.ca 604-257-2900


NDP MPs

jenny.kwan@parl.gc.ca 604-775-5800

gord.johns@parl.gc.ca : 250-947-2140

don.davies@parl.gc.ca 604-775-6263


Green MP

elizabeth.may@parl.gc.ca 250-657-2000
 

I attended. The turn out was impressive. Some speakers were great, others not so much. I was concerned that anyone reporting or there to report negatives may only report on the first hour where I don't think the message was clear or professional. I appreciate the support of the MP's that were there but they are still politicians. The best message from them was that signing petitions is good, sending form letters is good, sending personal letters is good... But calling or visiting your local MP and asking for a meeting is best. Expressing your feelings and concerns as well as letting them know this is a matter that affects your vote.
The BCWF Representative did a great presentation. Was well prepared and clear on the issues. He summarized 3 things to focus on. Does anyone know where to find a copy of this presentation? It would be good to post here.
The BCWF Facebook page posted a video of his presentation
 
https://www.fishingrights.ca/
BCWF website links this which is a good summary of the current issue.
Hopefully someone can link his presentation.
Lots of issues which leaves us spinning around from one to the other. This is most important right now as I understand. Whales and Pinnipeds will be a non issue to us if the Salmon Allocation Policy is changed and salmon are no longer common property and we can not fish.
 
Wow Gord Johns the NDP MP sure put the rec sector under bus today hard with that new Chek News interview . Apparently we are "fear mongering" about salmon allocation according to him. Well I guess now we know why he wasn't there on Saturday.
 
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Well, I just watched Chek News and unfortunately the ‘improved’ report was entirely predictable. Give the last word to those supporting the changes and portray the Recreational fishing sector and anyone supporting them as fear mongering.
So much for making things right with a balanced report.
 
Wow Gord Johns the NDP MP sure put the rec sector under bus today hard with that new Chek News interview . Apparently we are "fear mongering" about salmon allocation according to him. Well I guess now we know why he wasn't there on Saturday.
Sadly I also watched the CHEK report - I think Gord isn't grasping the seriousness of this issue for the Recreational community and all those businesses in his riding that rely upon it. We somehow need people in his riding to reach out and request in-person meetings so they are able to help Gord understand what is really going on here. One of the questions asked of the MP's in attendance at the Duncan meeting was what should people do to get help from their MP - the answer was pretty blunt - keep phoning and ask for a personal meeting or phone call from your MP.

I think Gord needs some help gaining a deeper understanding of this issue - time for people to call requesting a meeting.
 
Sadly I also watched the CHEK report - I think Gord isn't grasping the seriousness of this issue for the Recreational community and all those businesses in his riding that rely upon it. We somehow need people in his riding to reach out and request in-person meetings so they are able to help Gord understand what is really going on here. One of the questions asked of the MP's in attendance at the Duncan meeting was what should people do to get help from their MP - the answer was pretty blunt - keep phoning and ask for a personal meeting or phone call from your MP.

I think Gord needs some help gaining a deeper understanding of this issue - time for people to call requesting a meeting.

The negative undercurrent goes a bit deeper than just accusing the Recreational fishing sector of overreacting. Gord Johns was given a platform to dismiss all Conservative MPs as fear mongers as he explains they are the reason he didn’t show up. He is even allowed to be the narrator while the camera pans over these unsavoury MPs who aren’t worthy of asking to provide their own perspectives.

Thanks Chek News for showing your true colours once again.🤬
 
Sadly I also watched the CHEK report - I think Gord isn't grasping the seriousness of this issue for the Recreational community and all those businesses in his riding that rely upon it. We somehow need people in his riding to reach out and request in-person meetings so they are able to help Gord understand what is really going on here. One of the questions asked of the MP's in attendance at the Duncan meeting was what should people do to get help from their MP - the answer was pretty blunt - keep phoning and ask for a personal meeting or phone call from your MP.

I think Gord needs some help gaining a deeper understanding of this issue - time for people to call requesting a meeting.
I know for a fact what a pos that Johns is from his Tofino days. He only has his seat because of the native support
 

Recreational fishers raise alarm over proposed federal salmon allocation overhaul​

Recreational anglers are worried about upcoming changes to salmon allocations on the West Coast.

A public consultation period by Fisheries and Oceans Canada wrapped on Friday.

Fifteen year fishing charter guide Andrew Turkstra is among those who submitted feedback on proposed changes to the federal government’s salmon allocation review.

He says he’s among those worried that Fisheries and Oceans Canada might allocate the majority of coho and chinook salmon populations to the commercial industry.

“That’s a concern for us because if it goes this route, what will most likely happen is that there will be hard caps for shares placed on the recreational industry, and that will create a lot of uncertainty,” said Turkstra.

Turkstra says any uncertainty about whether the fishing season will remain open would be problematic for charters, which are often being booked well in advance.

On Saturday, close to 1,400 people packed a North Cowichan rally concerned about proposed fishing changes around salmon allocation and Southern Resident Killer whale conservation.

The anglers fear measures will be implemented that haven’t been proven to benefit the unpredictable-moving killer whales.

As well, the BC Wildlife Federation says the salmon allocation policy should maintain Canadians’ right to fish and keep salmon classified as a resource owned and managed by Canadians.

“Now we’re going to start to engage MP’s and elected officials working with others to host town halls and really get the message out so that decision makers understand the importance of conservation and license angling in British Columbia,” said Jesse Zeman, executive director of the BC Wildlife Federation.

Conservative MP’s at the rally said they are listening and will advocate for the anglers.

NDP Courtenay-Alberni MP Gord Johns says when he was given this invitation to Saturday’s rally, it already showed Conservative MPs would be speaking at it. He was previously scheduled at an NDP caucus retreat.

He says there’s a lot of fear-mongering.

“Recreation fishing is not being eliminated. Families will still be able to fish, and public access is not being abolished. What’s being debated is how Ottawa allocates a limited, declining resource in a way that actually follows the law, respects conservation, and finally implements court decisions that have long been ignored,” said Johns.

The 2009 Ahousaht decision, confirmed by the BC Court of Appeal in 2013 and 2021, found First Nations had a right to a commercial fishery. The ruling found DFO regulations favouring recreational anglers over these rights were unjustified and demanded a more equitable, “viable” commercial fishery for the Nations.

“The government of Canada needs to figure out where those fish are going to come from to accommodate that court decision, and from our perspective, that was pretty simple. You take it from the commercial fishing industry because it is a commercial fishery, and hand it to that fishery, and instead the minister chose to reopen this 1999 salmon allocation policy,” said Zeman.

Johns says changes to the salmon allocation policy are needed and the federal government has dragged its feet on making required changes.

“The courts have been clear in their rulings that indigenous rights-based commercial fisheries must be meaningfully accommodated and can’t be placed behind recreational fishing, so Ottawa has kept an outdated 1999 policy in place and failed to implement those rulings, allowing conflict and misinformation to grow instead of resolving it,” said Johns.

Johns says Canadians should be more concerned about program funding to protect salmon, which is scheduled to run out in March. Johns spoke to the issue in Parliament in December.

Turkstra says he hopes a shared solution for this vital resource is found so everyone will benefit, including future generations.


Guess I have to have a chat with Gord once again...

Anyone else is encouraged to gord.johns@parl.gc.ca
 
Hi Kendall,

I saw your latest, and in my opinion it indicates even more bias.

I will soon be meeting with Gord to discuss this matter, as will several others in this riding - his btw.
He will be changing his tune I can assure you.

I an also assure you I am not at all comfortable with the way you appear to be spinning this.

Back to you soon I am sure...

Matt
 

Recreational fishers raise alarm over proposed federal salmon allocation overhaul​

Recreational anglers are worried about upcoming changes to salmon allocations on the West Coast.

A public consultation period by Fisheries and Oceans Canada wrapped on Friday.

Fifteen year fishing charter guide Andrew Turkstra is among those who submitted feedback on proposed changes to the federal government’s salmon allocation review.

He says he’s among those worried that Fisheries and Oceans Canada might allocate the majority of coho and chinook salmon populations to the commercial industry.

“That’s a concern for us because if it goes this route, what will most likely happen is that there will be hard caps for shares placed on the recreational industry, and that will create a lot of uncertainty,” said Turkstra.

Turkstra says any uncertainty about whether the fishing season will remain open would be problematic for charters, which are often being booked well in advance.

On Saturday, close to 1,400 people packed a North Cowichan rally concerned about proposed fishing changes around salmon allocation and Southern Resident Killer whale conservation.

The anglers fear measures will be implemented that haven’t been proven to benefit the unpredictable-moving killer whales.

As well, the BC Wildlife Federation says the salmon allocation policy should maintain Canadians’ right to fish and keep salmon classified as a resource owned and managed by Canadians.

“Now we’re going to start to engage MP’s and elected officials working with others to host town halls and really get the message out so that decision makers understand the importance of conservation and license angling in British Columbia,” said Jesse Zeman, executive director of the BC Wildlife Federation.

Conservative MP’s at the rally said they are listening and will advocate for the anglers.

NDP Courtenay-Alberni MP Gord Johns says when he was given this invitation to Saturday’s rally, it already showed Conservative MPs would be speaking at it. He was previously scheduled at an NDP caucus retreat.

He says there’s a lot of fear-mongering.

“Recreation fishing is not being eliminated. Families will still be able to fish, and public access is not being abolished. What’s being debated is how Ottawa allocates a limited, declining resource in a way that actually follows the law, respects conservation, and finally implements court decisions that have long been ignored,” said Johns.

The 2009 Ahousaht decision, confirmed by the BC Court of Appeal in 2013 and 2021, found First Nations had a right to a commercial fishery. The ruling found DFO regulations favouring recreational anglers over these rights were unjustified and demanded a more equitable, “viable” commercial fishery for the Nations.

“The government of Canada needs to figure out where those fish are going to come from to accommodate that court decision, and from our perspective, that was pretty simple. You take it from the commercial fishing industry because it is a commercial fishery, and hand it to that fishery, and instead the minister chose to reopen this 1999 salmon allocation policy,” said Zeman.

Johns says changes to the salmon allocation policy are needed and the federal government has dragged its feet on making required changes.

“The courts have been clear in their rulings that indigenous rights-based commercial fisheries must be meaningfully accommodated and can’t be placed behind recreational fishing, so Ottawa has kept an outdated 1999 policy in place and failed to implement those rulings, allowing conflict and misinformation to grow instead of resolving it,” said Johns.

Johns says Canadians should be more concerned about program funding to protect salmon, which is scheduled to run out in March. Johns spoke to the issue in Parliament in December.

Turkstra says he hopes a shared solution for this vital resource is found so everyone will benefit, including future generations.


Guess I have to have a chat with Gord once again...

Anyone else is encouraged to gord.johns@parl.gc.ca

You won't get anywhere with Johns we all know dam well where his allegiance is..
 
One thing I wanted to say here is I think both governments need to really be careful. The province is way too silent on this one.

BC economy is real trouble with the forest sector. We basically have lost employers in short period of time on island. Never seen it this bad.

Can you imagine all logging operations just crash in Alberni. You think Coulson alone can save the town without fishing? How about no labour day derby?

I always said that the island is a highly dependent tourist driven economy. We do not have a large manufacturing or high tech industry like the mainland. We have small ones and lot are dependent on this industry. Look at the aluminum boat building guys?

People have no idea how much this fishery and rec boating sector drive the economy here. I think it's more than we realize.

Look at Bamfield? Imagine if there was no fishing?

Other thing makes no sense is the place where 5 nations wants to yard out rec fishing is Gold River. I mean who is going to there in summer without lodges? How does that help the community?

Sorry I just dont get the salmon allocation thing.
I’ve been saying this all along your provincial government has been way to silent in all this. Say and think what you want about our leader but if this was happening to the people of Alberta Smith would be kicking down doors in Ottawa fighting for her people. Eby is way to quiet but lets admit it here, this fits right in with his governments agenda, he will never do anything to lose the native votes in fact he is and has done everything in his power to appease them. You people are losing control of your province and quickly.

You mention sawmills shutting down and all we hear is the blame game blaming the US for this but we all know this has been coming a long time. If it’s the US then why are the mills in Alberta and Sask going full tilt. The issues facing your mills run deeper than the US market but we won’t get into that on here but they are all preventable if you had decent leadership.
 
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