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Crew Member
Why is it that every time it's " their only food source! "
Think we have had enough science to move on from that topic yet it's still there.
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Why is it that every time it's " their only food source! "
Think we have had enough science to move on from that topic yet it's still there.
IronNoggin
Well-Known Member
Really wish I could be there.
Eye surgery again yesterday - leaves me basically blind to 3 days and I could not find a driver.
Sigh...
Just got back from the town hall event. There were as many people standing as there were sitting. PACKED! The organizers said somewhere from 1400-1700 people. Not sure if it was that high but that is what they said. Some interesting presentations. They all said, get in touch with your LIBERAL MPs. Phone calls and personal visitations were far better than emails. I am pretty sure the CHEK news camera was there for the first hour or so. Should see something tonight I would think.
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Think he meant liberal MP’s. Even if they’re not yours contact the B.C. liberal MP’s about this.
Rockin Rob
Member
I was there as well. huge turnout. Now its time to get off our butt and write some letters. Let them know we are watching and we wont stand for this B.S
Aces
Well-Known Member
No worries Matt. You’ve already done more then your share
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
Good turnout.
On another note. I really wish we could get all the forum members many with businesses off here start showing up.
Probably could have been another 2k to 3k just on island alone. I saw a lot people but there were some missing.
I hope some of you don't keep thinking posting on forum complaining going to do anything. Now is time to start doing something. MP time...
And start showing up to your local SFAB meetings as well.
If this effort to overhaul SAP and new SRKW closures increase we will not be fishing this year at all. It is that serious.
On another note. I really wish we could get all the forum members many with businesses off here start showing up.
Probably could have been another 2k to 3k just on island alone. I saw a lot people but there were some missing.
I hope some of you don't keep thinking posting on forum complaining going to do anything. Now is time to start doing something. MP time...
And start showing up to your local SFAB meetings as well.
If this effort to overhaul SAP and new SRKW closures increase we will not be fishing this year at all. It is that serious.
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Was there. Unfortunately haven't been around long enough to recognize many of you in person and I assume vice-versa, but yes was impressed with the turn out. Hopefully there were others from the forum there as well.
Squire
Well-Known Member
CHEK News’ interpretation of Recreational fishers’ concerns:
cheknews.ca
Thousands gather for recreational angler rally in North Cowichan Saturday
A rally attended by close to 1,400 recreational anglers on Saturday in North Cowichan called on Ottawa not to reduce fishing opportunities
cheknews.ca
Squire
Well-Known Member
My submission to CHEK’s opinion section:
I am a retired lifetime BC resident for whom salmon fishing isn’t just a pastime but a way of life. Salmon fishing involves so much more than just a harvest. My family and I like to get outdoors just to breath fresh air and we enjoy wildlife viewing including Killer Whales, Humpback Whales, otters, seals, sea lions, and many species of sea birds. A day or part day on the ocean is cathartic in that it allows us to unplug from the daily grind and really connect to nature and the ocean. Bringing home a fish to eat is a reinforcement of that connection and represents healthy organic table fare.
I was extremely disappointed to read Kendall Hanson’s coverage of the Recreational Fishers rally in Duncan on Sunday. His interpretation of the event leaves the reader with the impression that DFO wants to protect whales while the recreational fishing sector wants to keep fishing anyway. Nowhere in his article does he articulate the scientific arguments that the Recreational fishing sector poses to dispute the benefits of even further reducing recreational fishing opportunities. The science actually disputes the claims of some groups that prey abundance or lack thereof is a significant factor in the challenges the Southern Resident Killer Whales in particular, face. Their Northern counterparts are thriving in an environment with less prey density than they encounter. There are other documented factors putting pressure on these whales that are much more difficult to mitigate than simply scapegoating recreational fishers. It shouldn’t need to be said that myself and all recreational fishers would support any measures backed by science to preserve and conserve all of BC’s aquatic wildlife and the balance of the ecosystem.
Also, this is not the only threat the Receational sector is facing. Commercial and First Nations are demanding a reallocation of BC’s Chinook and Coho salmon to the Commercial sector of which most or all licences are widely expected to become FN’s owned. Since 1999, the DFO’s Salmon Allocation Policy has been guided by the principle that BC’s salmon are common property of the public. This has resulted in the current allocation of 50% of the sustainable catch of Chinook and Coho salmon to be allocated to the Recreational sector while 50% of Chinook and Coho along with 95% of Sockeye, Pink and Chum salmon are allocated to the Commercial Sector. For clarity these allocations of sustainable catch are determined after conservation and FNs’ Food, Sustenance and Ceremonial (FSC) rights are considered.
The Recreational sector is the greater socioeconomic contributor by a large margin while the commercial sector struggles to survive. I could provide sources and links to back up these assertions but I respectfully suggest that Mr. Hanson reach out to the Recreational sector to more thoroughly investigate this issue and report on his findings. Guiding the reader to assume that Recreational fishers simply don’t want to give up any fishing opportunities to do their part to save the whales, is inaccurate and unbalanced reporting.
Bryan Shier
Chemainus, BC
I am a retired lifetime BC resident for whom salmon fishing isn’t just a pastime but a way of life. Salmon fishing involves so much more than just a harvest. My family and I like to get outdoors just to breath fresh air and we enjoy wildlife viewing including Killer Whales, Humpback Whales, otters, seals, sea lions, and many species of sea birds. A day or part day on the ocean is cathartic in that it allows us to unplug from the daily grind and really connect to nature and the ocean. Bringing home a fish to eat is a reinforcement of that connection and represents healthy organic table fare.
I was extremely disappointed to read Kendall Hanson’s coverage of the Recreational Fishers rally in Duncan on Sunday. His interpretation of the event leaves the reader with the impression that DFO wants to protect whales while the recreational fishing sector wants to keep fishing anyway. Nowhere in his article does he articulate the scientific arguments that the Recreational fishing sector poses to dispute the benefits of even further reducing recreational fishing opportunities. The science actually disputes the claims of some groups that prey abundance or lack thereof is a significant factor in the challenges the Southern Resident Killer Whales in particular, face. Their Northern counterparts are thriving in an environment with less prey density than they encounter. There are other documented factors putting pressure on these whales that are much more difficult to mitigate than simply scapegoating recreational fishers. It shouldn’t need to be said that myself and all recreational fishers would support any measures backed by science to preserve and conserve all of BC’s aquatic wildlife and the balance of the ecosystem.
Also, this is not the only threat the Receational sector is facing. Commercial and First Nations are demanding a reallocation of BC’s Chinook and Coho salmon to the Commercial sector of which most or all licences are widely expected to become FN’s owned. Since 1999, the DFO’s Salmon Allocation Policy has been guided by the principle that BC’s salmon are common property of the public. This has resulted in the current allocation of 50% of the sustainable catch of Chinook and Coho salmon to be allocated to the Recreational sector while 50% of Chinook and Coho along with 95% of Sockeye, Pink and Chum salmon are allocated to the Commercial Sector. For clarity these allocations of sustainable catch are determined after conservation and FNs’ Food, Sustenance and Ceremonial (FSC) rights are considered.
The Recreational sector is the greater socioeconomic contributor by a large margin while the commercial sector struggles to survive. I could provide sources and links to back up these assertions but I respectfully suggest that Mr. Hanson reach out to the Recreational sector to more thoroughly investigate this issue and report on his findings. Guiding the reader to assume that Recreational fishers simply don’t want to give up any fishing opportunities to do their part to save the whales, is inaccurate and unbalanced reporting.
Bryan Shier
Chemainus, BC
Well that’s $hit coverageCHEK News’ interpretation of Recreational fishers’ concerns:
Thousands gather for recreational angler rally in North Cowichan Saturday
A rally attended by close to 1,400 recreational anglers on Saturday in North Cowichan called on Ottawa not to reduce fishing opportunities
Paperslayer
Member
The Recreational license came into effect in 1982, commercial licenses were introduced in the 60's.
Was this guy even at the meeting? Not one mention of the proposed SAP changes which were discussed at least as much, if not more than the SRKW closures.CHEK News’ interpretation of Recreational fishers’ concerns:
Thousands gather for recreational angler rally in North Cowichan Saturday
A rally attended by close to 1,400 recreational anglers on Saturday in North Cowichan called on Ottawa not to reduce fishing opportunities
Chek was only there for a portion of the meeting. The meeting started with whale BS and emphasized that we were friendly folk who were not going to get into politics at the meeting. The portion that dealt a more with FN, and common property stuff, was later in the meeting and not covered by CHEK. A bit of a missed opportunity IMO.
searun
Well-Known Member
I have my dad's very first license - he was on the SFAB Main Board when DFO launched the new licenses and every SFAB Board Member was given a new license - i have it framed...it is "NON-expiring" I think they made a little error when they printed the first batch. The date on that is 1981/06/02 license number R000006 - so the 6th license issued in 1981. My mom's is license # R076888 which showed expiry date of Dec 31, 1981. I gather it took a while to align the license issue/expiry dates to the government's fiscal year end of March 31 each year.
So there's a bit of history.
searun
Well-Known Member
I attended as well. It was a great turn out and show of support. Sadly CHEK missed the main reason most people were attending en masse. Maybe they run another story that captures the most significant issue the recreational community has faced in our life times!!!!
Also I was hoping to see MP's from all the political parties represented at the event. It is really critical that we get every MP and their party engaged, aware of the impact this issue will have, and possibly supporting us in Ottawa. From what I heard in the meeting, every MP and MLA were invited. Insofar as I recall the only Federal party in attendance was the Conservatives. No Greens, No NDP.
The event would have been even better if we had speakers from every party telling us where they stand on this issue.
Which brings me to the best advice I heard all day - if you want to get the attention of Ottawa, please phone your MP as many times as it takes to get a meeting, and please phone the Fisheries Minister requesting to speak with her and/or set up a virtual meeting. You don't need to get on a plane and travel to Ottawa to meet a Federal Minister - the wonderful internet has made virtual meetings a thing. MP's even vote electronically remotely from the House.
The other thing that will MAKE a difference is if everyone here contacted every business that you use to get fishing supplies.
1) Help them become aware of this issue and the potential it will have to crush their business.
2) Ask them to send letters to the Minister and PM.
3) If they are not sure what to write, maybe even offer to help them with drafting one they can edit.
This is a political decision - and the recreational fisheries biggest strength and argument to maintain the 1999 recreational priority in the SAP for Chinook/coho is the economic and social benefits our fishery brings. Eastern Canada politicians do not have any frame of reference for how significant the recreational fishery is on the West Coast - there are NO recreational fisheries there, no recreational licenses - only commercial.
We need to help educate them. Letters from businesses that will be impacted will really help provide a clear frame of reference for just how dependent the BC economy is on a vibrant recreational fishery.
Also I was hoping to see MP's from all the political parties represented at the event. It is really critical that we get every MP and their party engaged, aware of the impact this issue will have, and possibly supporting us in Ottawa. From what I heard in the meeting, every MP and MLA were invited. Insofar as I recall the only Federal party in attendance was the Conservatives. No Greens, No NDP.
The event would have been even better if we had speakers from every party telling us where they stand on this issue.
Which brings me to the best advice I heard all day - if you want to get the attention of Ottawa, please phone your MP as many times as it takes to get a meeting, and please phone the Fisheries Minister requesting to speak with her and/or set up a virtual meeting. You don't need to get on a plane and travel to Ottawa to meet a Federal Minister - the wonderful internet has made virtual meetings a thing. MP's even vote electronically remotely from the House.
The other thing that will MAKE a difference is if everyone here contacted every business that you use to get fishing supplies.
1) Help them become aware of this issue and the potential it will have to crush their business.
2) Ask them to send letters to the Minister and PM.
3) If they are not sure what to write, maybe even offer to help them with drafting one they can edit.
This is a political decision - and the recreational fisheries biggest strength and argument to maintain the 1999 recreational priority in the SAP for Chinook/coho is the economic and social benefits our fishery brings. Eastern Canada politicians do not have any frame of reference for how significant the recreational fishery is on the West Coast - there are NO recreational fisheries there, no recreational licenses - only commercial.
We need to help educate them. Letters from businesses that will be impacted will really help provide a clear frame of reference for just how dependent the BC economy is on a vibrant recreational fishery.
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