Lurecharge

[EstevanPoint]

@brutus How come some days no one is catching fish, except one boat. I’ve definitely seen that happen, Renfrew is a good example. No one catching fish, or very few, but every time the same boat comes into the tack, Bang! Hooked up, off he goes, lands the fish, back in, bang!

I agree with you that it’s not ALL about voltage, some days it doesn’t matter and everyone and every voltage is thumping them. But there are those days where one or two boats really the smoke the rest. Minute details pay off. And when professionals like @IronNoggin and @PEETZcanada are in one camp, and it sounds like the Jackel is as well… I think I know which team I’d place a bet on.

Make the derby happen! Would love to see it

 

[brutus]

@brutus How come some days no one is catching fish, except one boat. I’ve definitely seen that happen, Renfrew is a good example. No one catching fish, or very few, but every time the same boat comes into the tack, Bang! Hooked up, off he goes, lands the fish, back in, bang!

I agree with you that it’s not ALL about voltage, some days it doesn’t matter and everyone and every voltage is thumping them. But there are those days where one or two boats really the smoke the rest. Minute details pay off. And when professionals like @IronNoggin and @PEETZcanada are in one camp, and it sounds like the Jackel is as well… I think I know which team I’d place a bet on.

Make the derby happen! Would love to see it

Derby is an open offer lol,but the rule is, we fish bait, no cables wth voodoo s… attach to it, the other team fish cables with tazers on and electrical voodoo spoons, they work so good it should be an easy win for the Sparky’s . My point is that the fisherman and location and way they fish is way more important then the voodoo stuff, I’ve spent over 10year fishing offshore 100 to 250 ft on the cables( back then was using cables) no black box has ever been in my boat, and catch rates where about finding the fish, not the voltage that was on my cable lol, I Am sure Lots had bb on their boats, did it make a difference I don’t think so, just my opinion. Now againn90% of people fish braid now, even if your boat glows in the dark 200ft down on the bank, fish don’t give a s….

 

[brutus]

@brutus How come some days no one is catching fish, except one boat. I’ve definitely seen that happen, Renfrew is a good example. No one catching fish, or very few, but every time the same boat comes into the tack, Bang! Hooked up, off he goes, lands the fish, back in, bang!

I agree with you that it’s not ALL about voltage, some days it doesn’t matter and everyone and every voltage is thumping them. But there are those days where one or two boats really the smoke the rest. Minute details pay off. And when professionals like @IronNoggin and @PEETZcanada are in one camp, and it sounds like the Jackel is as well… I think I know which team I’d place a bet on.

Make the derby happen! Would love to see it

 

[brutus]

Back then @nog was guiding the same area , fished beside him many times

 

[Gong Show]

@brutus How come some days no one is catching fish, except one boat. I’ve definitely seen that happen, Renfrew is a good example. No one catching fish, or very few, but every time the same boat comes into the tack, Bang! Hooked up, off he goes, lands the fish, back in, bang!

I agree with you that it’s not ALL about voltage, some days it doesn’t matter and everyone and every voltage is thumping them. But there are those days where one or two boats really the smoke the rest. Minute details pay off. And when professionals like @IronNoggin and @PEETZcanada are in one camp, and it sounds like the Jackel is as well… I think I know which team I’d place a bet on.

Make the derby happen! Would love to see it

Man, I have had days with my fishing partner, both exact same rigs, on either side of the same boat, and one side is hot, like 100% of the fish.
Other days the other rod is 100% banging, same rigs, like identical.

The universe has a perverse sense of humour.
I am good with that.

 

[brutus]

Man, I have had days with my fishing partner, both exact same rigs, on either side of the same boat, and one side is hot, like 100% of the fish.
Other days the other rod is 100% banging, same rigs, like identical.

The universe has a perverse sense of humour.
I am good with that.

Probably the voltage

 

[EstevanPoint]

I think we need to test your voltage @brutus

 

[brutus]

I think we need to test your voltage @brutus

lol I do have a few loose wire I’ve been told

 

[Tomfoolery]

I have used their spoons with the little anodes for the last three or four years on and off. Honestly, I haven't really seen any more fish on them than my other gear. I really wanted them to give an edge, but I can't definitively say they have. They catch fish just like my other spoons.

 

[PEETZcanada]

I have used their spoons with the little anodes for the last three or four years on and off. Honestly, I haven't really seen any more fish on them than my other gear. I really wanted them to give an edge, but I can't definitively say they have. They catch fish just like my other spoons.

I have only used their release clip gizmo while on boats that use braid. On my lures I simply change hook material types to get the effect I want. For instance on my #8 Superior 50/50 copper brass spoons I run Stainless or Dura Nickle. The rule of thumb for non painted metal spoons is to run blued hooks to slow the reaction of the blade finish. In the senario I am trying to accomplish, if the finish of the spoon is deteriorating through out the day, then my spoon is working the way i want it to and the proof is in the catch. It is different for every lure I run. Some I want the effect, others I don't.

It's not a secret that I am sharing, mostly because I don't care about holding back information and openly share my successes. Not quite 50 years of experience has done me well.

 

[Tomfoolery]

I have only used their release clip gizmo while on boats that use braid. On my lures I simply change hook material types to get the effect I want. For instance on my #8 Superior 50/50 copper brass spoons I run Stainless or Dura Nickle. The rule of thumb for non painted metal spoons is to run blued hooks to slow the reaction of the blade finish. In the senario I am trying to accomplish, if the finish of the spoon is deteriorating through out the day, then my spoon is working the way i want it to and the proof is in the catch. It is different for every lure I run. Some I want the effect, others I don't.

It's not a secret that I am sharing, mostly because I don't care about holding back information and openly share my successes. Not quite 50 years of experience has done me well.

It's what I like about this forum. People freely share in their experience. I remember back in the good ol days (when I had to walk to school uphill for ten miles in the snow both ways) when Scotty came out with their black box and we were spending inordinate amounts of time testing our boat voltages with multimeters to make sure we were the correct polarity and voltage. It was about the time that Charlie White brought the wire in teaser trick back from Alaska and that made a HUGE difference in getting and maintaining the perfect roll. He was at the lodge and showed us the rig, so I rigged up a teaser with wire, jumped in my guide boat and ran out to do a test fish. It was funny because there were a lot of boats catching a lot of nothing and I pull up, fire a rod out with a killer roll on the 'chovie and bang, fish on. No sooner had I boated that chinook and got my rod back over than bang, another fish on. I played and boated the next one and with my limit pulled my gear and away I went. Meanwhile the twenty boats out there busy catching nothing and watching me slay my limit in 15 minutes must've been pissed. I figured this new technique was some kind of black magic! Small details do add up and I am sure voltage plays a part, but it is hard to quantify so for me it's not a game-changer. As for the teaser with the killer roll, I am not sure I have ever caught my limit of big fish like that ever again in so little time.

 

[brutus]

I keep coming back too, people who think without a black box the success rate goes way down, imo it’s BS, I’ve fished out of Jackel boat, he does have a BB (I did not know he had one ) he says it keep the voltage around his boat down( NW aluminum) he fish under his boat 20-30 ft down with 4 rods some times, cut plugs only he can slay fish when most don’t, the way he rolls his bait and attention to details make him a top notch chinook killer, and then he shows up
On my boat ( no black box on my boat) and we get 11 hook ups in a few hrs while everybody else where getting nothing, rolling the bait and knowing the area has more to success then a voodoo wire hanging on a wire I think, the guy knows the structure he fish, what the effects of certain tides do, where the fish hold on different tides and most important how to roll those herring , lots have tried to keep up with him and only a few (top rods) can . Again my opinion is lots of gear for sale is to catch fisherman and not fish

 

[Duffy]

I keep coming back too, people who think without a black box the success rate goes way down, imo it’s BS, I’ve fished out of Jackel boat, he does have a BB (I did not know he had one ) he says it keep the voltage around his boat down( NW aluminum) he fish under his boat 20-30 ft down with 4 rods some times, cut plugs only he can slay fish when most don’t, the way he rolls his bait and attention to details make him a top notch chinook killer, and then he shows up
On my boat ( no black box on my boat) and we get 11 hook ups in a few hrs while everybody else where getting nothing, rolling the bait and knowing the area has more to success then a voodoo wire hanging on a wire I think, the guy knows the structure he fish, what the effects of certain tides do, where the fish hold on different tides and most important how to roll those herring , lots have tried to keep up with him and only a few (top rods) can . Again my opinion is lots of gear for sale is to catch fisherman and not fish

Nobody really knows what makes a fish bite your lure on a single day, it could be many reasons, the black box is just another tool you can use If you wish to. If all you had to do was to use a black box and fish would be jumping in your boat it would be simple , but we all know it is not that easy.

 

[RiverBoy]

this thread needs to die