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Originally posted by fishin_magician
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Originally posted by Peahead
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I fish with hooks...you know..the kind that catch fish? Adjust what hooks you fish with to the target species you're after and fish responsibly---meaning...if it's shaker and undersize city....trebles have little business being fished with.
You fish with hooks?....valuable input FM !
lol.
BTW Lordofthesprings put out a question about
favourite anchovy rigs to use. Since his name is Lordofthe
springs I assume, he might have an interest in catching LEGAL Chinook or maybe even some legal coho ? . If you don't have a favourite or special rig to catch your legal chinook or coho, then I figure there's no reason to post on this particular topic. If you have a beef about treble hooks being used to continue fishing shakers on a nursery, I agree with you but may I suggest you address that topic by starting your own new post on that topic ? . Before you make any statements about treble vs single with respect to released survival rates, I suggest that maybe you could include some deatils/statistics you have found on survival rates on fish released using both types of hooks
Why someone would continue fishing in a "nursery", with any type hook, (except for fisheries research reasons)kinda puzzles me. I'll save that topic for another post sometime.
That's a funny response Greg--especially from a guide such as yourself. Maybe if you thought a little bit about my post, you'd see that I advocate fishing with APPROPRIATE sized hooks for the target fish. That means, NOT FISHING with trebles when there are small fish around. Overall, treble hooks, in my experience/opinion, cause more damage to smaller fish. My favorite anchovy rigs include ones without trebles----and anchovy rigs which have properly sized singles. Those are my favorite anchovy rigs...and they catch fish too.
quote:]Thanks for nothing Peahead and Bighorn.
F/M brings up a very good point to the newbs out there. Sitka Spruce also brought it up; thanks boys valuable point that ties into this thread for the less experienced cruising the form. If a handful of guys changed their perspective than well done!!
Don't be jealous because F/M catches more than you.
Belive me I hate to agree with F/M as he took a run at me before but you cannot hack someone for caring about the condition of releasing shakers and the fishery as a whole!!
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Did I disagree on FM's comment of avoiding trebles when lots of small fish are present? Strange because if you look closer at my post you will see that I actually said "I agree with you".
Andrew, it sounds like you might have gotten a wee bit offended and if so,you should let it go. I do admit that I sarcastically referred to your comment "I use hooks....you know...the kind that catch fish" as being "valuable input". I tried to make light of it in a "Tounge in cheek" way ...and with a wink. Sorry if the sarcasm upset you but I found that comment to be a pretty goofy and odd sounding response to lordofthesprings question. Sorry but that’s my opinion and thankfully I am allowed to state my opinion as you are too.
I asked if I could suggest you start a new post on the topic of hook types and how they relate to damaging fish/survival rates. Simply put, I felt that you were heading off on your own tangent about hook damage and virtually implying others on the thread were damaging smaller fish (except youself of course). Not really where I felt the topic should be going- at least not that approach. I think the topic of hook type/damage is an excellent topic but felt your approach was combative. Your concern over damaging fish however is good. Newbie's on here may accept and agree with most everything you say but I don't all the time( as you well know
). While I do respect your opinion and those of most others on here, I will call you out (or them) if I think its necessary and I have the time - I certainly have the passion to do so. I won't ever get personal, but I may offer a bit of heat back at ya. If I didn't care I wouldn't even bother posting on here or talking to you.
I noticed on your second post that you added in the comment "in your experience" and that communicates a clearer 'picture'. Nobody can take that away from you. I pride myself in being very carefull about stating something as if it is fact, unless I have proof to back up my claim. Treble hooks likely do more damage to small fish (in my and your opinion) but data is needed to prove that . Also true or not, scolding fishers on this thread with only a assumption they may be killing small fish by continiung to fish on a nursery is blowing wind in my opinion....When a guy just asked what is your favourite rig ? huh. Quite an assumption. I said it before Andrew....its the approach ....it can be very important.
Interstingly some past research I have seen has apparently indicated that released fish (small guys) using both barbless single and treble hooks showed no significant difference in damage. Again,I find that hard to believe but its possible its true. I think it was DFO doing the research so another reason I find it hard to grasp
Sorry lordofthesprings and others for taking over this thread, this should perhaps be a new thread topic as I suggested before.
