Head Returns..... Where Caught/Where Were They Heading

[Fish Assassin]

I just wonder where all these fish that are caught are heading. I know there is some data out there. I'd like to see it.

 

[Seafever]

Must be USA.

According to DFO, lately, it seems to be nothing but doom and gloom for rivers north of the border for returns this year.

 

[adrianna3]

Not one of my tagged fish actually had a tag in it.

Dave

 

[Peahead]

http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum/showthread.php?18065-2011-Salmon-Head-Recovery-Program

Only a very small percentage of USA adipose clipped Chinook have wire code tags inserted so likely an american bound Chinook. JO Thomas here in Vancouver says tags can be lost during disection or the fish can occasional naturally reject the wire code tag. I believe most (or all) Chinook in BC that are adipose clipped are wire tagged as well.

 

[GLG]

I have Cowichan Chinook tagged results for 2012. If you want I can send you an excel file with all the years for this stock.

RecDate
2012/06/23	31	Northern Troll	1
2012/06/30	31	Northern Troll	1
2012/06/30	33	Northern Troll	1
2012/07/14	31	Northern Troll	1
2012/08/11	31	Northern Troll	1
2012/08/11	33	Northern Troll	1
2012/06/26	7	Central Sport	11	CAPE SUTIL PFMA 11
2012/05/19	33	Southwest Vancouver Is Troll	114
2012/09/22	33	Southwest Vancouver Is Troll	114
2012/07/15	7	Central Sport	12	UNKNOWN PFMA 12
2012/07/21	7	Central Sport	12	LIZARD POINT PFMA 12
2012/04/28	33	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	120
2012/05/05	33	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	120
2012/05/05	31	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	120
2012/05/05	33	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	120
2012/05/19	33	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	120
2012/05/19	33	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	120
2012/05/11	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	HUMPBACK BAY
2012/05/13	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	HUMPBACK BAY
2012/05/17	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAMPBELL RIVER
2012/06/15	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	HUMPBACK BAY
2012/06/25	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	PLUMPER BAY
2012/06/26	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAPE MUDGE
2012/06/28	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAPE MUDGE
2012/06/19	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAPE MUDGE
2012/06/26	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAPE MUDGE
2012/07/03	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAMPBELL RIVER
2012/07/07	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAPE MUDGE
2012/07/09	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	HUMPBACK BAY
2012/07/19	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	HUMPBACK BAY
2012/07/03	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAMPBELL RIVER
2012/07/07	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	HUMPBACK BAY
2012/07/12	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAPE MUDGE
2012/07/14	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	HUMPBACK BAY
2012/07/14	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	WILLOW POINT
2012/07/15	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	HUMPBACK BAY
2012/08/12	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAMPBELL RIVER
2012/08/14	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	CAPE MUDGE BELL BUOY
2012/08/19	7	Johnstone Strait South	13	THURSTON BAY
2012/04/11	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	TRIBUNE BAY
2012/05/05	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	SENTRY SHOALS
2012/05/08	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	TRIBUNE BAY
2012/05/26	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	KITTY COLEMAN BEACH
2012/06/12	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	FRENCH CREEK
2012/06/03	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	KITTY COLEMAN BEACH
2012/07/05	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	HORNBY ISLAND
2012/07/06	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	BAYNES SOUND
2012/07/22	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	SANGSTER ISLAND PPFMA 14
2012/07/06	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	SENTRY SHOALS
2012/07/15	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	14	SALMON POINT
2012/05/19	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	15	GRANT REEFS PFMA 15
2012/05/10	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	15	GRANT REEFS PFMA 15
2012/06/15	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	15	COHOE POINT PFMA 15
2012/06/14	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	15	COHOE POINT PFMA 15
2012/08/16	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	15	BLACK POINT PFMA 15
2012/05/30	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	16	TEXADA ISLAND
2012/06/11	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	16	WATERFALL
2012/06/25	7	Georgia Strait Sport Central	16	LASQUETI ISLAND
2012/05/20	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	PORLIER PASS
2012/06/02	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	FIVE FINGERS
2012/06/05	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	WINCHELSEA ISLANDS
2012/06/12	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	ENTRANCE ISLAND PFMA 17
2012/06/12	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	GERALD ISLAND
2012/06/20	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	NECK POINT
2012/06/24	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	THRASHER ROCK
2012/06/02	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	ENTRANCE ISLAND PFMA 17
2012/07/13	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	GERALD ISLAND
2012/07/14	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	BALLENAS ISLANDS
2012/07/14	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	GABRIOLA ISLAND
2012/07/22	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	GERALD ISLAND
2012/08/29	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	17	FIVE FINGERS
2012/02/25	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	18	COAL ISLAND
2012/06/25	7	Georgia Strait Sport South	18	COAL ISLAND
2012/06/20	7	Juan de Fuca Sport	20	POSSESSION POINT PFMA 20

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[GLG]

Cont....

RecDate
2012/05/19	33	Southwest Vancouver Is Troll	23
2012/07/04	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	23	MARA ROCK PFMA 123
2012/09/29	33	Southwest Vancouver Is Troll	23
2012/06/17	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	23B	BAMFIELD PFMA 23
2012/06/24	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	23B	BAMFIELD PFMA 23
2012/07/06	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	23B	SANDFORD ISLAND PFMA 23
2012/07/21	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	23B	SOUTH BANK PFMA 123
2012/05/15	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	24	UNKNOWN PFMA 24, 124
2012/06/08	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	24	LONG BEACH PFMA 124
2012/07/22	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	24	LONG BEACH PFMA 124
2012/07/22	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	24	MILLAR CHANNEL PFMA 24
2012/08/15	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	24	HYSON BANK PFMA 124
2012/08/15	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	24	HYSON BANK PFMA 124
2012/07/13	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	25	STRANGE ISLAND PFMA 25
2012/08/14	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	25	UNKNOWN PFMA 125
2012/06/17	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	26	KYUQUOT SOUND PFMA 126
2012/07/13	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	26	KYUQUOT PFMA 126
2012/07/06	7	West Coast Vancouver Is Sport	26	KYUQUOT PFMA 126
2012/05/19	31	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	27
2012/05/19	33	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	27
2012/05/19	33	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	27
2012/09/22	31	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	27
2012/09/22	33	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	27
2012/09/29	31	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	27
2012/09/29	33	Northwest Vancouver Is Troll	27
2012/07/25	7	Northern Sport	2W	RENNELL SOUND PFMA 2
2012/08/15	7	Northern Sport	3	UNKNOWN PFMA 3
2012/07/21	31	Northern Troll	45
2012/06/28	7	Central Sport	9	CRANSTOWN POINT PFMA 9
2012/07/21	7	Central Sport	9	THE WALL PFMA 9
2012/07/23	7	Central Sport	9	CLARK POINT PFMA 9
2012/03/31		Alaska Dept of Fish and Game (AK)
2012/04/06		Alaska Dept of Fish and Game (AK)
2012/06/06		Alaska Dept of Fish and Game (AK)
2012/07/04		Alaska Dept of Fish and Game (AK)
2012/07/09		Alaska Dept of Fish and Game (AK)
2012/07/22		Alaska Dept of Fish and Game (AK)
2012/08/02		Alaska Dept of Fish and Game (AK)
2012/08/14		Alaska Dept of Fish and Game (AK)
2012/08/15		Alaska Dept of Fish and Game (AK)

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[Fish Assassin]

That's some very interesting information. Seeing that I wonder why we in area 14 protect the run like we do but the other areas are free to fish them. You'd think they put a restriction on area 17 during June and July to protect those fish more so they have more opportunities to spear them in the river....

 

[NautiGirl]

The excel file would be interesting to sort by date to see which periods they get hit hardest and which areas are hammering them the hardest during our Saanich Inlet closure from Aug 1 on. Do they have any hatchery fish swimming with those early fraser fish that fives the south island their heavy slot restrictions. It would be interesting to see when those hatchery fish get hammered the most when they are schooling along with the wilds. Are they getting slammed on the inside or campbell river on the way down, or does the majority go westcoast as we were told?

 

[sammyslabber]

The excel file would be interesting to sort by date to see which periods they get hit hardest and which areas are hammering them the hardest during our Saanich Inlet closure from Aug 1 on. Do they have any hatchery fish swimming with those early fraser fish that fives the south island their heavy slot restrictions. It would be interesting to see when those hatchery fish get hammered the most when they are schooling along with the wilds. Are they getting slammed on the inside or campbell river on the way down, or does the majority go westcoast as we were told?

Gee lets not get to scientific.. you may throw off DFO's Ouija Board science You only need to look at the fat slabs on "other threads" to realize early Fraser runs magically migrate through Sooke - Victoria area

 

[NautiGirl]

If we just took FishFlyguy Steve off the salt and kept him lakebound, the stocks would be fine.

 

[GLG]

back on the list for 2013 as I just got a letter from DFO that my winter (Jan.) spring was a cowichan river fish.

 

[Cuba Libre]

COWICHAN ????? Bad person-- go to your room!!!!

 

[Fish Assassin]

I was waiting for someone to say some thing... LOL

 

[adrianna3]

Just got one back yesterday. Caught at Tent Island off Chemainus in May. It was from the Samish River hatchery in Puget Sound. God bless the American hatchery program.

Dave

 

[Fixit]

I got two from chilliwack river last month

 

[GDW]

Well my results are in. 18 salmon heads turned in between my family. Only two had tags. One from the chilliwack river. One from glenwood springs in Washington. Check out what the Americans are doing - so awesome the efforts they put in.

http://www.lltk.org/rebuilding-populations/glenwood-hatchery/overview

 

[bigbruce]

Sorry, GDW, I'm having trouble linking the lack of tags in salmon you've caught with what the Americans are doing in the link you've posted. There is all kinds of very positive hatchery activities going on up here as well. Tagging salmon is very labour intensive and expensive. Volunteer run hatcheries don't have the resources to do it - but this doesn't take anything away from the amount of work that the folks up here are doing enhance salmon runs.

 

[GDW]

What impresses me about the US especially the hatchery I linked is they created a salmon run on a fruit orchard. This lead to increased # of fish without adding hatchery genetics to a wild run. Would DFO ever take a fruit field and say hey let's put a salmon hatchery here?

I just thought it was a cool facility im sure others agree. not to take anything away from all the hard working volunteers here they do deserve kudos too.

 

[Hoochiebob]

Received an email regarding one of the heads I submitted last year. was a five year spring from Robertson creek. Seems odd that I caught it at the trap shack. Was this guy lost or just taking the scenic route home?
The email also explained why a lot of clipped fins do not have wire tags . The salmon head recovery program simply cannot obtain enough tags for all marked fish . 1 in 4 chinook and 1 in 10 coho heads submitted actually have a tag. The heads are also a valuable source of tags they can reuse for future stocks.

I believe this program truly has significant value in regards to monitoring and conservation efforts of the stocking programs, and everyone should make an effort to submit all marked salmon heads. Not only do you assist the recovery program, but the information returned to you is well worth the read
Send in those heads!

 

[Aces]

Received an email regarding one of the heads I submitted last year. was a five year spring from Robertson creek. Seems odd that I caught it at the trap shack. Was this guy lost or just taking the scenic route home?
The email also explained why a lot of clipped fins do not have wire tags . The salmon head recovery program simply cannot obtain enough tags for all marked fish . 1 in 4 chinook and 1 in 10 coho heads submitted actually have a tag. The heads are also a valuable source of tags they can reuse for future stocks.

I believe this program truly has significant value in regards to monitoring and conservation efforts of the stocking programs, and everyone should make an effort to submit all marked salmon heads. Not only do you assist the recovery program, but the information returned to you is well worth the read
Send in those heads!

What was the weight of that 5 yr old Robertson fish?