Halibut quota

Yes Not sure of your point either if thats a Jab at me???Whatever I wasnt refering to you??? me I have about 20 lbs of halibut in my freezer thats it and there isnt a next time for me to go out now till spring But I will say people in glass houses dont throw stones,

This is about halibut quota I know how much money the people i know came here to fish And its a lot with 6 guys lic,plane,hotels food at restaurants etc etc my wage.
We have the luxury of going whenever we want for a mere 30 buck lic and can take all season long!!!!!!! my clients 2 halibut wow they put more money into bc economy than you or I do. I know of a few people who take a lot of HALIBUT out every tide. and he is doing it for "fun"
YEAH thats it

Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com
 
FN0891-Recreational Halibut: All areas - Halibut Fishing Closure#8207;
Category(s): RECREATIONAL - Fin Fish (Other than Salmon)

Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Subject: FN0891-Recreational Halibut: All areas - Halibut Fishing Closure

Throughout the 2010 recreational halibut fishing season, the Department in conjunction with the Sport Fishing Advisory Board (SFAB) Halibut Working Group have reviewed in-season monthly catch estimates.

Catch information indicates that the recreational share of the Total Allowable Catch has been reached.

Therefore, recreational fishing for halibut will close effective 23:59hrs October 18, 2010 for the balance of the year.

2011 management actions will be developed throughout the fall and announcements will be made in early 2011.

Variation Order 2010-395 is in effect.

FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Contact: Tamee Mawani 604-666-9033 or Devona Adams 604-666-3271

Fisheries and Oceans Canada Operations Center - FN0891
Sent October 6, 2010 at 09:40
Visit us on the Web at http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca
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Complete and utter BS! From First-hand observance, the hit from Bamfield, Port and Ukee was down substantially right across the board this season! For the first season in my experience, a great many of the clients didn't even want to bother with the run out for a single fish each, preferring instead to Enjoy The Madness that the salmon fishing was instead. And while the crew of guides did collect a few, our collective experience strongly points out that the numbers were NO-WHERE</u> near those of the past several seasons.

A similar case many here are not likely aware of...
Area G Troll (WCVI) realizes a September opening based completely upon any "surplus" TAC left over once the recreational sector numbers have been tabulated for that particular season. Given DFO's stance towards Area g of late, it came as no surprise that the numbers were "tweaked" just enough to deny any such opening this fall. However, once the numbers provided by the Department were analyzed by outside investigators, a LOUD Cry went up both from the Area G representatives, as well as those representing the Recreational Sector. Were the numbers thus provided to be believed, it was readily apparent that EVERY SINGLE TRIP to the grounds had resulted in ALL</u> anglers FAR surpassing their legal catch numbers! Shocking! [:0]
When the cry began to wander towards Enforcement issues as a consequence, DFO immediately</u> changed those numbers (a fairly massive reduction actually) and announced an opening for Area G without sufficient time left in the month to prosecute it! So, in the end, by twisting the data to their own agenda, they did realize what their intent was - basically keeping Area G OFF the water. [V]

The reason I post that is there are direct parrelels between that little (sickening) scenario, and what is occurring with recreational halibut fishing. I did note that UNKNOWN (Rob) stated here he is prepared to take DFO to task over this new set of "spun" catch figures. I would like to amongst the first to note that if there is Anything I can do to help that along, please do feel free to count on me!

Methinks the time is long overdue we stood idly by while we are continuously lied to to our detriment! [}:)]

Ticked!
Nog
 
quote:Originally posted by r.s craven

...according to preliminary DFO estimates Sport sector is over their quota this year - hmmm, I wonder what wonderful model they used to create the end result for that determination. Irregardless DFO is your issue, not any other sector!

I think DFO base their science on the commercial catch because it is recorded.
Once they get their quota it get's shut down pretty quick.
it's all hocus pocus when it comes to assessing the sport catch, how can they know how many pieces are caught as sports catch is not recorded. ??

The commies have a season length. I think it was March 15- Nov 15. Then they are closed reguardless of how much fish is left in the water. Also each boat is on an individual quota so when they hit that number they are out of the water as well.
 
Each boat indeed has a individual quota, however they hand it to other capable boats late season, who can deal with ugly weather and have finished their own quota early. At lesser price to make a bit more dough before callin her quits. Or if they just don't want to fish it for whatever reason.

www.tailspincharters.com
 
Agree Matt

Complete F'n Bull Shyt , a few of us were still planning on hitting hali in the next month or 2 , we hardly even fished them , what a f'n joke , can't wait for Jeff to see this..

i have spoken to ALOT of fisherman from Tofino down to Bamfield , number of guy's fishing for them were WAY DOWN ...:( the cleaning stations were way down...

I indicated this would happen last year when discussed ," 1 per day " give an inch , take a mile , [}:)] what do ya know ???? Un real , Time we really look at , Daily limits , Area Closure Times, this is NOT working for WCVI, completely unfair split

I am by no means the Rep for the WCVI , But , I do know , alot of you will side with me on this...

WHO took the 12 %

UNReal

FD...

thefogducker@hotmail.com

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Until we force DFO to make it mandatory to turn in all catch data in a reliable manner, this will continue to happen year after year. We will get into a pissing match again on the next rounds of meetings but nobody will have any concrete data to back up either argument, so they win.
 
quote:Originally posted by Tailspin

Each boat indeed has a individual quota, however they hand it to other capable boats late season, who can deal with ugly weather and have finished their own quota early. At lesser price to make a bit more dough before callin her quits. Or if they just don't want to fish it for whatever reason.

www.tailspincharters.com

The commies are capped at 1%/boat. If you look on the website the commies are almost out of fish as well. I know there are a few boats that wait to the end in hopes of a big price but mother nature can make them eat that. And they don't just hand it over it goes to the highest bidder.
 
Unknown has it right. DFO does not have any mechanism to derive any reasonable catch guesstimate, therefore they can only be fabricating (LIES) numbers from their fertile (FULL OF S_ _T)imaginations. The pols and crats are busy with make-work and the field people are woefully understaffed and are not even a presence on the water or the cleaning stations. We will continue to be victims until such time as we are prepared to stand together and clearly tell them no more. Only when their jobs are clearly on the line will change happen.

Too much water, too little time
 
We all knew it was coming the last 4yrs has been a battle REALLY if your surprised by this at all!!!!!! Im accually surprised at how long we have been able to fish.
Im just criuos if it will open feb 1 again as last year or wait until 2 days prior and open it????
At least they have given you who are stil fishing them some time to still go not like the salmon one in may which was VERY short notice especially with people coming in for our june salmon fishery.
I know this is going to be hard to take but get used to it as its not going to get any better soon. SORRY facts are facts......


Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com
 
Thats awesome i just had to cancel 5 trips end of oct.

Like wolf said though i knew it was coming this year i thought it would have been oct 1st.

Craven i can get your firewood now!
 
Oh i agree unknown.I was at a meeting in the spring and fisheries was showing us how they came up with there numbers and it's not even close to being true.

We have to fight so this doesn't happen again.
 
I agree with you all that this action by DFO is total bullsh!t! I am not going to spend any more time bitching about this stupid DFO decision as this is a waste of time. I am going to redirect my time and energy to be more useful and put my money where my mouth is.

I am willing to work with anyone who wants to start planning some citizen based political protests whether through existing groups (i.e. like the guys who organized the last protest) or new ones.

If you are interested in doing the same send me an email and let's get something started![}:)]

Long live wild salmon!!!
&gt;&lt;))))&gt;
 
quote:Originally posted by UNKNOWN

... If you sit back and do nothing - expect to get exactly what you give!!!

APATHY amongst our sector is the Greatest Single Weapon working against us, and btw one that they Know they can continuously Rely and Count On! [V]

I will be penning a letter to the Minister today. We MUST</u> get the message across that this action is Unwarranted and Intolerable. If we do nothing as is the usual case, they will assume we are on-side with this miscarriage. [xx(]

Rob (Unknown), Beyond pounding keys on the Internet, beyond firing off letters of disgust to the Minister, WHAT do You propose we do directly about this situation? As noted, I will indeed stand up First and Foremost for what I (we) believe in. Sure could use a little direction here though...

Hoping,
Matt
 
I dont want to "get used to it" either Rob but remember there were guys on here who said they wouldnt support the protest rally and they called down on us for doing it etc etc etc thats why it will never work you have a few on here who dont get it... plain and simple. until we all come together and trust each other then we will succeed but its going to take time and constant writing and calls we have to be relentless if you dont want to thats YOUR choice but when its gone dont ***** .....


Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com
 
I dont want to "get used to it" either Rob but remember there were guys on here who said they wouldnt support the protest rally and they called down on us for doing it etc etc etc thats why it will never work you have a few on here who dont get it... plain and simple. until we all come together and trust each other then we will succeed but its going to take time and constant writing and calls we have to be relentless if you dont want to thats YOUR choice but when its gone dont ***** .....


Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com
 
Yup, letters and emails to the minister don't cut the mustard...
A few half hearted responses have led to no change.
i really feel however that unless someone with deep pockets chooses
to back the sport sector , nothing will happen.
Gov't will not back down to big money interests.
I have written many times, and it falls on deaf ears.

We need legal counsel, and somebody with the resources
to take on the Gov't and hopefully make changes that will benefit
us all.
 
Yup, letters and emails to the minister don't cut the mustard...
A few half hearted responses have led to no change.
i really feel however that unless someone with deep pockets chooses
to back the sport sector , nothing will happen.
Gov't will not back down to big money interests.
I have written many times, and it falls on deaf ears.

We need legal counsel, and somebody with the resources
to take on the Gov't and hopefully make changes that will benefit
us all.
 
quote:fisher69 Posted - 10/06/2010 : 21:33:27
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Each boat indeed has a individual quota, however they hand it to other capable boats late season, who can deal with ugly weather and have finished their own quota early. At lesser price to make a bit more dough before callin her quits. Or if they just don't want to fish it for whatever reason.





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The commies are capped at 1%/boat. If you look on the website the commies are almost out of fish as well. I know there are a few boats that wait to the end in hopes of a big price but mother nature can make them eat that. And they don't just hand it over it goes to the highest bidder.


Well the boats I know don't wait until the end, they just get it done early and do the additional in the end, as they are capable of dealing with mother nature. It certainly is not a bidding war by any stretch. Do I blame them? No, its tough to even make a buck.

Either way the 88% is typicaly taken by the longline boys and our 12 percent guess is decided upon and closed prematurely even after a 1 per angler dailey limit. Not an easy game for either group with the low prices obtained this season.

www.tailspincharters.com
 
quote:fisher69 Posted - 10/06/2010 : 21:33:27
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Each boat indeed has a individual quota, however they hand it to other capable boats late season, who can deal with ugly weather and have finished their own quota early. At lesser price to make a bit more dough before callin her quits. Or if they just don't want to fish it for whatever reason.





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The commies are capped at 1%/boat. If you look on the website the commies are almost out of fish as well. I know there are a few boats that wait to the end in hopes of a big price but mother nature can make them eat that. And they don't just hand it over it goes to the highest bidder.


Well the boats I know don't wait until the end, they just get it done early and do the additional in the end, as they are capable of dealing with mother nature. It certainly is not a bidding war by any stretch. Do I blame them? No, its tough to even make a buck.

Either way the 88% is typicaly taken by the longline boys and our 12 percent guess is decided upon and closed prematurely even after a 1 per angler dailey limit. Not an easy game for either group with the low prices obtained this season.

www.tailspincharters.com
 
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