Halibut quota

[scott craven]

DFO just posted this notice for commercial quota relinquishment...
Wonder if it happens if our season will remain open ??



Both fished and unfished halibut/sablefish quota are eligible for
relinquishment under PICFI. However, if an application for relinquishment of
FISHED halibut/sablefish quota is approved by DFO, any relinquishment and
voluntary payment pertaining to such quota will be dependant on the specified
quota becoming available and all overages being settled in accordance with DFO
licensing policy and rules. In addition, all other requirements under the
relinquishment agreement must be completed by the applicant.

To speak with someone about your relinquishment application, phone the
Vancouver Pacific Fishery Licence Unit at (604) 666-0566. For assistance with
halibut/sablefish quota, phone the Groundfish Management Unit at (604) 666-5865.

Please note that all Applications for Relinquishment must be received no later
than October 26th 2010.

FOR MORE INFORMATION:

Andria Charette
Pacific Fishery Licence Unit
Phone: (604) 666-1640
Fax: (604) 666-5855

 

[fisher69]

quote:Originally posted by r.s craven

DFO just posted this notice for commercial quota relinquishment...
Wonder if it happens if our season will remain open ??

It has nothing to do with our season. It is gov buying up quotas for land claims. Funny how they can spend $200 mill to buy up quota for the natives but cant find $24mill to buy us some more fish.[xx(]

 

[wolf]

Find it hard to believe a 50% cut and we still exceded our quota????I call bull$hit on that one any time.

Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com

 

[Lipripper]

quote:Originally posted by wolf

Find it hard to believe a 50% cut and we still exceded our quota????I call bull$hit on that one any time.

Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com

There must have been 3x the guys fishing them with the same amount of license sales

 

[scott craven]

quote:

it has nothing to do with our season. It is gov buying up quotas for land claims. Funny how they can spend $200 mill to buy up quota for the natives but cant find $24mill to buy us some more fish.

quote:

I understood that additional quota could be bought back from commies
provided there is money in the bank ?

 

[Whole in the Water]

At one of the last SFAB meetings we discussed how we have $ in a account to buy back some quota. If I remember correctly these funds are held "in trust" by an organization that somehow has ties to the commercial sector and influence to decide how/if these funds are used. So just because we may have the $ doesn't mean we can use it to buy back quota.

I'm pretty sure Chris73 will have the correct info on this if I got something wrong.

Long live wild salmon!!!
>&lt)))>

 

[scott craven]

quote:

...according to preliminary DFO estimates Sport sector is over their quota this year - hmmm, I wonder what wonderful model they used to create the end result for that determination. Irregardless DFO is your issue, not any other sector!

quote:

I think DFO base their science on the commercial catch because it is recorded.
Once they get their quota it get's shut down pretty quick.
it's all hocus pocus when it comes to assessing the sport catch, how can they know how many pieces are caught as sports catch is not recorded. ??

 

[the fog ducker]

add to the BS

this season seen the least Hali at the tables that i have EVER seen ,Poett Nook ,and was busier than hell, , NOT EVEN CLOSE to past years , who DA. FK. is catching the " Sports Quoata " i call BS on this 2

fd...

thefogducker@hotmail.com

 

[Halilogger]

I can sea a Halibut tag in the near future on my crystal ball.

 

[wolf]

From what I saw off of vic way less guys this year. also know heard with just 1 only less people going way out to get them so DFOs got what they wanted. less people more for commercial to get faster, remember 88/12 split and the faster commies get there quota happier for all involved, we are so small compared to the big picture they really dont care about us,In saying that we are an easy target thats why we get hit the hardest pick on the ones who dont make the most fuss. until we ALL unite together it will be the same thing year after year.

Got to give FN/comm. credit they have figured it out and using the card very very well against sporties.

Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com

 

[the fog ducker]

Yes Wolf

the 1 per day was DEFINATELY not very motivating ,

the travel is just not worth a chicken , especially if the salmon were HOT in other areas !! which , this year , they were

fd

thefogducker@hotmail.com

 

[Lipripper]

quote:Originally posted by wolf

until we ALL unite together it will be the same thing year after year.

There needs to be a stronger voice. Not sure that what is established is it? (But thank you for the effort you guys have put in)

 

[Kildonan]

quote:Originally posted by Halilogger

I can sea a Halibut tag in the near future on my crystal ball.

Yup, me too. So let's say you are limited to say 10 per year, how much can/do you consume in a year? Really. Is that a big deal?

I have a family of 4. If I had 48 pounds of halibut in the freezer, that would give me two good feeds per month. even if I double that, my take is tops 5 to 6 fish/year.

 

[wolf]

Im not blaming other sectors at all they have worked the system to what the government allows, All you have to do is look at this forum on how people think things should be done some remarks are well lets say wont and will never happen, As i personally have sat in these meetings along with others on here and voiced questions, must admit the one we did last june when it was just guides I found it way more positive than any other meetings.

Trust me in saying there is work being done for us.
although I do like the annual limit alot you will never see it. they just wont do it, Ive written 5 letters asking why and same reply back takes years to change a money collecting transaction.not the whisp of a majic wand and be done.governemnt moves about as fast as maple syrup in dec. LOL

Also my personal view is this isnt really a conservation issue its allocation we just want a bigger piece of pie you still got every other user group taking just as much we just want a bit more share of the 88% and they are not going to give it up now are they, just like we dont want to give up any of our share. so You see check and mate....

Good luck Wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com

 

[Deewar25]

quote:Originally posted by wolf


Trust me in saying there is work being done for us.
although I do like the annual limit alot you will never see it. they just wont do it, Ive written 5 letters asking why and same reply back takes years to change a money collecting transaction.not the whisp of a majic wand and be done.governemnt moves about as fast as maple syrup in dec. LOL

Sounds like a pile a crap to me (this of course directed to what DFO claims about years to change). We are talking about adding a small chart for what, 10 spaces on a saved file in the computer and resizing to fit current size or slightly larger. That takes 1/2 hour tops. Nothing is 'changing', it still plots the same way it's plotted year after year after year. That's a joke.

On the otherhand, I don't see putting halibut on the license being a big threat and control measure for the halibut since there is next to no policing out there and often not big enough consequence. Make it big - scare the hell out of people - $1000 fine if caught with halibut not written down, boat and all gear taken if over limit in a given day. Do the same for salmon too and then people will actually pay attention to the rules vs screaming out 3 wilds, 1 hatchery across the parking lot!

Yep, I know just ranting - DFO doesn't care.......lol

 

[wolf]

It takes more than a 1/2 hour dave LOL LOL something like this has to go to a commision and be vote on etc etc. AGAIN ITS not going to happen !!!!!
You can make every rule, regulation wish list etc all you want with out enforcement its all for not anyways.

I know of some guys out there that catch and catch from the spring till now they must eat alot of seafood everyday...


wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com

 

[fisher69]

quote:Originally posted by Whole in the Water

At one of the last SFAB meetings we discussed how we have $ in a account to buy back some quota. If I remember correctly these funds are held "in trust" by an organization that somehow has ties to the commercial sector and influence to decide how/if these funds are used. So just because we may have the $ doesn't mean we can use it to buy back quota.

I'm pretty sure Chris73 will have the correct info on this if I got something wrong.

Long live wild salmon!!!
>&lt)))>

There was money in the bank until this year. It was held in trust by the PHMA. The money was aquired by the commercial fleet leasing quota from us two years in a row when we were under our catch. It amounted to close to $1.2mill. we have been using that money to lease quota back from the commies over the last 3 years. that fund was exhausted a few months ago. there lies the problem. We have no way of collecting money to increase our 12%, or at least we have not found a way that is palatable to us.

 

[scott craven]

quote:

I know of some guys out there that catch and catch from the spring till now they must eat alot of seafood everyday...

quote:

There's nothing wrong with that as long as you are abiding by the regulations.
I do not freeze fish as we like to eat it fresh. If i don't catch anything...
we wait till next time.
I know i take a lot less than some people who do it for a living .

 

[Deewar25]

quote:Originally posted by wolf

It takes more than a 1/2 hour dave LOL LOL something like this has to go to a commision and be vote on etc etc. AGAIN ITS not going to happen !!!!!
You can make every rule, regulation wish list etc all you want with out enforcement its all for not anyways.

I know of some guys out there that catch and catch from the spring till now they must eat alot of seafood everyday...


wolf

Blue Wolf Charters
www.bluewolfcharters.com

Yeah, the politics in the way, sure, will take years unless someone dangles a billion dollar bill infront of their nose. The literal change though is nothing, so as a commoner, you ask, why the hell 'should' it take so long (even though I know 'politics' is the answer)...lol

With you obviously on the enforcement issue - waste of time unless they step it up to coincide with a change. Think of how many enforcement officers you could keep on staff with all those $1000 fines coming in

 

[Deewar25]

quote:Originally posted by r.s craven

quote:

I know of some guys out there that catch and catch from the spring till now they must eat alot of seafood everyday...

quote:

There's nothing wrong with that as long as you are abiding by the regulations.
I do not freeze fish as we like to eat it fresh. If i don't catch anything...
we wait till next time.
I know i take a lot less than some people who do it for a living .

Not sure your point, Wolf is referring to guys that aren't licensed to guide and are out fishing every single day and in turn, bonking 50, 60, 70 springs a year (I know of a few as well). If you are going out every day and bringing back fish, even if it goes on your buddies license so as to not fill your own, you damn well better be a licensed guide. Of course those that do it for a living take a lot more fish, but they are the fish of the paid guest.