Hakai/Salmon gear lures

[Calgary Guy]

Ok all.. I have booked a second trip for the summer. This time I will be fishing Hakai pass July 17 with OBMG. I know they usually use the cut plug herring. But I was thinking about trying some lures and different techniques.

Can anyone give me a heads up on what to go and buy? Flashers? Types and wieghts of lures? techniques? I will not have a down rigger.
I have heard something about Mother of pearls

Thanks guys.
Calgary Guy

 

[scotth]

It's pretty hard to beat cut plug herring in that area especially if you don't have downriggers.
Scott

 

[SerengetiGuide]

Ya Jamie, without downriggers, cut plug. If you do somethign else, I definitely find the Ol' Betsy flasher is much times better than purple haze. Look at the backs of the first couple fish you catch, see if there is a trend and adjust your flasher accordingly.

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[Dogbreath]

These work well and are great for spinning a Herring or dragging a spoon around.

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[GLG]

When in Rome do as the Romans.
The guys there have it dialed in, why mess with it. I’m sure your guide will teach you to fish the area for the most success. If you must try something different you might try a deep diver, flasher and the your favorite spoon. If it were me, I would learn the local technique as part of my fishing journey.

 

[Calgary Guy]

LOLOLOL
Ok Boys here is one of the "Reel" reasons, last time I was at Rivers inlett, we couldnt keep the damn pinks off the lines. I spent all my time cutting bait!!!

I swore up and down I would fish with lures next time I was around pinks.

I have the cut plug system down good and since we are with a fishmaster rather than a guide I thought I would try and throw in a few curve balls in case we run into a slow (Or hot pink) time.

Any of the products posted here available on line from one store? We fly into Van late the night before we leave, so I dont think I will be hitting any fishing shops prior to heading north. Not sure what Calgarys selection would be like.. It seems the Salmon fishing around these parts has dropped of recently

BTW I really would like a good lead on a MR2 dont care about the color, I just want one.

Jamie

 

[HSM542]

If you really are wanting the islander reel, you can do what I did and in August when The Fishin Hole store in Calgary has their big sale they put them out for 25% off. You can pick up a $600.00 MR2 or MR3 for $450.00. Best price I have seen anywhere! They are pricey, but are worth the money, and this will save you $150.00 on a brand new one. Also for other gear go on line and check out Berry's Bait and Tackle website, I order alot of stuff from them.

 

[Rum Buddies]

big tomic plugs and spoons? likely less action then bait, but you won't get many pinks hitting a 6-7" plug.

 

[fishin_magician]

quote:Originally posted by Poppa Swiss

big tomic plugs and spoons? likely less action then bait, but you won't get many pinks hitting a 6-7" plug.

Good advice. No downriggers...go with the spoons... if you're hooking a ton of pinks though...my experience is...move.

As for plugs, they're most effective with riggers.... he'll have to use a decently large weight and ensure there are few boats around to move through the sweet spots.

Maybe consider Rhys Davis Herring Teasers or Krippled Herring teasers as well...a bit of a bigger presentation helps keep the pinks away---you get a wicked roll for the springs...and you can move pretty quick. May wish to upgrade to bigger sinkers to aid in depth control/efficiency.

 

[TheBigGuy]

Try size 6 or 7 Canadian Wonder spoon in chrome finish. They are the size of a small dodger, so I don't think you'll get many pinks. They are less drag than a 7" tomic plug, so you won't need as much weight to get them down. A 6 or 8 oz. slip weight should be enough to get them deep enough. They have caught me many nice Springs and actually work well on lake trout(Char) as well. Not many guys use them anymore, but I think they're still popular up on the north Island. Nikka sells them, they have an online website. They are in the Gibbs spoon section. The spoons section caters to commercials who buy an entire box. Prices are for a box, they do sell individually though.

http://www.nikka.ca/?cat=Spoons&sub=Gibbs&page=8

 

[Rum Buddies]

ya the wonder spoons are good and I've used them for great success on the north island - but they rust horrible and really pieces of sh*t in my opinion. Good for the first 2 days then garbage after that.

 

[TheBigGuy]

Your right that the new copies aren't the quality of the old ones. I still have a few of the original Les Davis Canadian Wonder 7 spoons that are as shiny as the day I bought them many years ago. What is the quality that it used to be though, Penn reels are now being made overseas. Same with the Coyote spoons that everbody insists are must haves(while at the same time complaining about the crappy quality).

If you keep a small container of soapy fresh water handy and give chrome spoons and dodgers a rinse after use in the salt they usually hold up OK. I know metal surface spoons and dodgers have gone from most peoples tackle arsenal, but some times they work extremely well.
I just returned yesterday from a trip to Shuswap lake. The chrome #00 Luhr Jensen dodger with a spoon caught most of the Rainbows and lakers on the trip. The Canadian Wonder 7, usually catches me most of my lakers along with one of my cherished Lucky Louie plugs. Newer doesn't always mean better.

 

[Gooey Bob]

Why not go with jigs? That's what I'd do if I didn't have a downrigger.

Go with a decent brand like Pt. Wilson Dart, Perkins, Stilgsilda, or Buzz Bomb\Zzinger. Stick with basic (non-pink!) colors like green\chrome; green\white; blue\chrome; or some of the nifty holographic finishes you can find nowadays.

I'd get some skinny ones in the 3 to 5 inch range to imitate needlefish, and some fatter ones in the same general size to imitate herring. Follow the directions on the packaging if you've never fished them before. Don't be tempted to switch over to single hooks, SHARP trebles are definitely more effective on these lures. You usually don't have to worry about hooking fish deep, most will be hooked in the corner of the mouth.

I know those boats have sounders. Find some bait and work it, or just try the hot spots like Odlum, Barney or the Gap. Start near the bottom, and then work your way up through the watere column, then back down to the bottom again. Make sure you pay attention on the drop...

I've personally caught tons of Chinook & Coho jigging all over the coast. Of course, you'll have a decent shot at incidental hallies and lings as well. I'd suggest that next to cut plugs, and assuming you don't have access to a downrigger, they'll be your most productive option.

Gooey

 

[Last Chance]

quote:Originally posted by Poppa Swiss

big tomic plugs and spoons? likely less action then bait, but you won't get many pinks hitting a 6-7" plug.

Nah, when the pinks are in thick at Swiftsure those damn things hit the Tomics just as readily as bait. I usually troll around 4-5KNTS to keep them off, it rules out bait but when you have offshore feeding fish, they still hit at that speed. Inshore however, you have to grind it out, I'm afraid.
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