Fishing v-s World of War Craft

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Hey BC anglers,
I have never fished in BC and I need ideas for entertaining my 13 year old boy with some faster action. I was hopping for bottom fish like flounder, greenling and the like, but as long as my boy is not thinking about World of War Craft, I don’t care what I catch, how big it is or where in BC I need to go to catch it.

I am limited to the third week in June and a 12’ boat and motor. I have access to a camper and a 4 wheel drive truck however I would pier fish, beach fish, jetty fish or what ever. I really just want to get my boy excited about fishing and I know at this point that action trumps size or edibility. I hope you can help.

Cheers,
Seth


May you rods always be bent!
 
One week in June vs WarCraft everyday until then?

You have little chance of winning unless you get started now and are willing to put in the time with</u> your boy. Those games are addictive.

I would recommend fishing sheltered areas, 20-60 foot depth. All of them will have bottom fish. Best get started ASAP because you are up against tough odds. Good luck.
 
Hey Haverodwilltravel,

I am sorry, I didn’t mean for anyone to think that World of War Craft was all he does. For instance we were at the gun range yesterday for archery, traps and target practice. I was meaning to say was when he gets board he wants to be doing something else. I love salt water fishing and I want him to love it too. The best chance of this, initially, would be relatively fast action; getting him catching fish then proceed from there.

He plays World of War Craft, when he keeps up with his subscription or “game time” but in fact he would rather be out on the quad or the sled. He wants to take a trapping course this summer so he, my wife and I will attend the Alberta Trapper Association’s trapper’s college near Grand Prairie Alberta it is a 4 day course (we live in Nordegg AB). His best friend moved to Australia and World of War Craft is the cheapest way for them to hang out and play, when he runs out of game time they write emails but it is not the same.

The Prince Rupert area is easiest for us but I am willing to go to where the action is best. If anyone has any further ideas on where to go and what to target it would be great!

Cheers,
Seth


May you rods always be bent!
 
Seth:

Ya, bottom fish!

When I was a kid, I lost my interest in fishing because it was such a slow deal - boring.

Best trip I ever had was with a couple of guys out of Parksville that by Dad met at the beer parlour. They took us out early the next morning. We used heavy 200 pound mono handlines with big Norwegian cod jigs and proceeded to fill the boat with Yelloweye, and Lingcod.



Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250
 
Geez to bad you wern't coming out a little later.It's a pink run in Juan de Fuca straight this year.That can be mayhem when they are running.Do a search,upper right of forum,lots of info.Best beginner salmon fishery.Dan
 
Yea Baby!

Now that’s what I’m talking about!!! I recon those days are over, but it would be great if I could do for my boy what your dad did for you! He just would need to have that faster action with anything of any size to get him hooked, like danthewire mentioned for pinks. Thanks Sushihunter and Danthewire, if you or anyone gets some more ideas please pass them along.

Cheers,
Seth
PS You don’t happen to remember the name of that beer parlour?
quote:Originally posted by Sushihunter

Seth:

Ya, bottom fish!

When I was a kid, I lost my interest in fishing because it was such a slow deal - boring.

Best trip I ever had was with a couple of guys out of Parksville that by Dad met at the beer parlour. They took us out early the next morning. We used heavy 200 pound mono handlines with big Norwegian cod jigs and proceeded to fill the boat with Yelloweye, and Lingcod.



Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250

May you rods always be bent!
 
quote:Originally posted by Subsistence Fisherman

Yea Baby!

Now that’s what I’m talking about!!! I recon those days are over, but it would be great if I could do for my boy what your dad did for you! He just would need to have that faster action with anything of any size to get him hooked, like danthewire mentioned for pinks. Thanks Sushihunter and Danthewire, if you or anyone gets some more ideas please pass them along.

Cheers,
Seth
PS You don’t happen to remember the name of that beer parlour?
quote:Originally posted by Sushihunter

Seth:

Ya, bottom fish!

When I was a kid, I lost my interest in fishing because it was such a slow deal - boring.

Best trip I ever had was with a couple of guys out of Parksville that by Dad met at the beer parlour. They took us out early the next morning. We used heavy 200 pound mono handlines with big Norwegian cod jigs and proceeded to fill the boat with Yelloweye, and Lingcod.



Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250

May you rods always be bent!

The Beer Parlour is still there. It's on the road that that goes up the hill from the old highway along the beach. Can't remember the name but I think it has some old wagonwheels on the outside.

Those days are not over. You just have to find the right spot. A nice protected reef area that doesn't get fished too heavily.

I like the idea of Pink Salmon too. A friend of mine had his two sons onboard and went in close to the Vancouver Airport. He was in about 12' of water and was jigging for Pinks with Buzzbombs. I forget how many they hooked and released, but it was near constant action and it was on very light tackle so they put up a great fight.

Another trip I remember was to Chataway Lake near Merrit, BC. Small lake full of trout. One lure: Bright red Flatfish. Don't know what it is like now, but we couldn't keep them off the line. Don't know why we never went back there, the fishing was great.

Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250
 
When I was 17 my mom and I moved to Florida where I got a job on a grouper / snapper boat. There were three bandits with 2 snoods per bandit held down by 5 pound sash weight. The captain and other deckhand manned the bandits and I got to fish with a rod and reel. I remember one day catching 35-40 pound fish (gag grouper) every time I hit bottom while there was no action at all on the bandits; what a great memory. That story about the 200lbs test hand lines dropped that memory right back on to my lap. I would love to do that again, but I suppose you can’t recapture the past so I will take what I can get.
quote:Originally posted by Sushihunter

quote:Originally posted by Subsistence Fisherman

Yea Baby!

Now that’s what I’m talking about!!! I recon those days are over, but it would be great if I could do for my boy what your dad did for you! He just would need to have that faster action with anything of any size to get him hooked, like danthewire mentioned for pinks. Thanks Sushihunter and Danthewire, if you or anyone gets some more ideas please pass them along.

Cheers,
Seth
PS You don’t happen to remember the name of that beer parlour?
quote:Originally posted by Sushihunter

Seth:

Ya, bottom fish!

When I was a kid, I lost my interest in fishing because it was such a slow deal - boring.

Best trip I ever had was with a couple of guys out of Parksville that by Dad met at the beer parlour. They took us out early the next morning. We used heavy 200 pound mono handlines with big Norwegian cod jigs and proceeded to fill the boat with Yelloweye, and Lingcod.



Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250

May you rods always be bent!

The Beer Parlour is still there. It's on the road that that goes up the hill from the old highway along the beach. Can't remember the name but I think it has some old wagonwheels on the outside.

Those days are not over. You just have to find the right spot. A nice protected reef area that doesn't get fished too heavily.

I like the idea of Pink Salmon too. A friend of mine had his two sons onboard and went in close to the Vancouver Airport. He was in about 12' of water and was jigging for Pinks with Buzzbombs. I forget how many they hooked and released, but it was near constant action and it was on very light tackle so they put up a great fight.

Another trip I remember was to Chataway Lake near Merrit, BC. Small lake full of trout. One lure: Bright red Flatfish. Don't know what it is like now, but we couldn't keep them off the line. Don't know why we never went back there, the fishing was great.

Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250

May you rods always be bent!
 
Thanks CS, This sounds like what I was looking for. It sounds as if I can leave the camper at home drag the boat and stay in a cheep hotel (if there are cheap hotels mid June in Prince Rupert). I still have a few quick questions; first I assume eggbeaters are spinners? Are these kelp beds easy to find? Do I drift or anchor up? Before I completely abandon the Idea of camping amongst the bear, would you think that similar fish could be gotten in the same way within the Work Channel?

Thanks very much!
Cheers,
Seth
quote:Originally posted by C.S.

Get some good trout rods and load up the egg beaters with 15lb spectra/spider wire type line.Get a bunch of rubber swim tails and hit some of those shallow kelp beds out of Rupert.Greenling,cabazon,lings and rock fish all day,FUN STUFF!


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May you rods always be bent!
 
Eggbeater, he means a spinning reel.

I used lived up north and fished the Rupert area (inc Work Channel) quite extensively. Where to go with a 12 footer? Well if your only after quantity, I would say stick to Work Channel (I've read you're other Work Channel forum) since you can fish it in most weather. The problem with Rupert or Pt Edward (small community south of Rupert) is that the better fishing is out of the harbour and that can mean rough water depending upon the weather. Rupert harbour is itself quite big and it can kick up on rough days. I don't think there much kelp beds in the harbour (I could be wrong)..........it was never a stopping point.

If you want to catch bottom fish, use bait (herring) and also try jig type lures such as zingers. If you fishing deep try to borrow someone bottom fishing outfit that has braid (no stretch) line on since this is a must for fishing over 100ft with heavy weights. You can use the zingers jigs on heavy action spiining gear but it will be difficult to fish deep with these unless you have the no stretch line on. Save your money and bring your camper.........regardless if you go to Rupert or Work Channel. Think about hiring a guide out of Rupert for a day (end of the trip), especially if your saving money by not staying at a hotel. The 3rd week of June, this is pretty well the best time to fish for springs for this area. Hire a guide for a day and you should be smiling by the end of the day, always the potential for a 40lb+ salmon out of Rupert.......huge halibut also. If you do go for a guide, book now since all the better ones will be booked up during this time (if not already).

Way better access and calmer waters on Vancouver Island but if you're coming from upper Alberta, it pretty far but may be worth it...........also alot of the poster are from the Island so you'll get plenty of advice. Sorry plenty more to say but I hate typing. If you want more info., post you're email or phone #.
 
Thanks Tubby,

I am very grateful to this forum and all of those who have helped me. I will gladly take all the info that you or anyone has to offer, so thanks again! My email is imsingularity@netscape.net

My problem is that the whole family likes fishing when the action is fast. I definitely will hire a guide, but I honestly can’t see it happening this year. Things will be a wee bit tight, and as you could tell by the previous thread, I will be borrowing and bartering to make this happen at all.

I really liked CS’s kelp bed idea as it seems extremely simple and full of action. I really don’t know the Prince Rupert area and if there are campsites near by, that is why I was asking about the Work Channel. I would be very happy exclusively fishing the head of the channel if it produced in the way CS described the kelp beds. The other thing I seem to be having trouble finding out is whether sole or flounder are a common easy catch in that area (probably because no one targets them). Again thanks and I look forward to more advice.

Cheers,
Seth

quote:Originally posted by Subsistence Fisherman

Thanks CS, This sounds like what I was looking for. It sounds as if I can leave the camper at home drag the boat and stay in a cheep hotel (if there are cheap hotels mid June in Prince Rupert). I still have a few quick questions; first I assume eggbeaters are spinners? Are these kelp beds easy to find? Do I drift or anchor up? Before I completely abandon the Idea of camping amongst the bear, would you think that similar fish could be gotten in the same way within the Work Channel?

Thanks very much!
Cheers,
Seth
quote:Originally posted by C.S.

Get some good trout rods and load up the egg beaters with 15lb spectra/spider wire type line.Get a bunch of rubber swim tails and hit some of those shallow kelp beds out of Rupert.Greenling,cabazon,lings and rock fish all day,FUN STUFF!


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May you rods always be bent!

May you rods always be bent!
 
Thanks Al,

I will google Parksville and if I end up there I will check out the old sportsman and see if I can pick up a crash course from the patrons.

Cheers,
Seth
quote:Originally posted by alley cat

Thats the old "Sportsman" Beer parlour.

AL

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It's called the Rod & Gun. French Creek would be a better place to get info. Go to the store there. But get your beer at the Gun.
 
Thanks Klob,

I googled French Creek, and Parksville was southeast of it. It took another 5 minutes of searching before realizing that Van Isle was short for Vancouver Island.[:0] Thanks every one for tolerating my profound lack of familiarity with the west coast. My boy said that it might be less embarrassing if I let him take over the planning of the trip, as he has the excuse that he is 13 and that I am the one responsible for teaching him geography.

Cheers,
Seth
quote:Originally posted by Klob

It's called the Rod & Gun. French Creek would be a better place to get info. Go to the store there. But get your beer at the Gun.

May you rods always be bent!
 
I don't know the Rupert area at all, sounds like fun.

But I can vouch for the fun fishing pinks in July and August in odd numbered years off Sooke...shallow, deep, any lure, once you get into them it's a hoot. Had a quadruple header once summer before last, complete chaos, but in a good way. :D

On another note...and close to embarrassed to even be posting this...while on the subject of video games, I finally relented anda got a Wii for my family. The Rapala fishing game is close enough to actual fishing in some ways to give a bit of the rush. The casting motion is pretty accurate and the setting the hook is good [the reeling and netting not so much]. But the playing the fish part is fun too, if the fish needs line you have to give it, or it will break off. If you don't keep the tension up, it will shake the hook. The remote vibrates in your hand when it takes line, simulating that zzzzzziiiinnnnngggg of a screaming reel. I don't know if your kid will like it or not, but I bet you might!

For the dark and cold months, maybe a way to fill some time more actively, towards your big picture outdoor fishing goal? 2 more cents for the pile.

John

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"A bad day of fishing is better than a good day of work"
 
Thanks John,

Fishing pinks does sound like a giggle! I spent time in New Jersey as a boy, and in April or May my dad would take me out fishing for Boston mackerel. They were only about a foot long but a lot of fun. We would use three flies anchored with a diamond jig. Many a time it came up fully loaded, we would shake them off the hook into a large trash can and drop again. I never found them to be very tasty, in fact they would gag a maggot, but they were excellent black tip shark and crab bait. We will be vacationing around June 21, so I guess pinks won’t be an option.

I really like the idea of the Rapala fishing game; I will give it to my wife for mother’s day. I can see it bringing out my son’s competitive nature and there is the added benefit of making the weather, tides, finances and travel irrelevant. Thanks again. Clearly this is no replacement for actual fishing but it beats sitting around all winter looking at last years pictures polishing your rod …not that that’s not fun.
quote:Originally posted by juandesooka

I don't know the Rupert area at all, sounds like fun.

But I can vouch for the fun fishing pinks in July and August in odd numbered years off Sooke...shallow, deep, any lure, once you get into them it's a hoot. Had a quadruple header once summer before last, complete chaos, but in a good way. :D

On another note...and close to embarrassed to even be posting this...while on the subject of video games, I finally relented anda got a Wii for my family. The Rapala fishing game is close enough to actual fishing in some ways to give a bit of the rush. The casting motion is pretty accurate and the setting the hook is good [the reeling and netting not so much]. But the playing the fish part is fun too, if the fish needs line you have to give it, or it will break off. If you don't keep the tension up, it will shake the hook. The remote vibrates in your hand when it takes line, simulating that zzzzzziiiinnnnngggg of a screaming reel. I don't know if your kid will like it or not, but I bet you might!

For the dark and cold months, maybe a way to fill some time more actively, towards your big picture outdoor fishing goal? 2 more cents for the pile.

John

*************************
http://fishingportrenfrew.ca
http://fishingsooke.ca

May you rods always be bent!
 
I also have a ways to travel to get out to the coast. But once a year, in the middle of august, I get out to Ucluelet for a week of fishing. We do really well out there offshore, but the nice thing about this area is if it is rough outside there is alot of places to fish in close to the harbour for either salmon or tons of spots for bottom fish. We see 12' boats out there quite often at Beg island or the west side of the entrance near the rocks. Two campgrounds there and lots of rental places. I go there every year and can't think of another spot I would rather be!
 
Thanks HSM542,

I googled Ucluelet and it is almost the same amount of driving time as it is to Prince Rupert (25 minutes longer). That certainly makes for more options!

Cheers,
Seth
quote:Originally posted by HSM542

I also have a ways to travel to get out to the coast. But once a year, in the middle of august, I get out to Ucluelet for a week of fishing. We do really well out there offshore, but the nice thing about this area is if it is rough outside there is alot of places to fish in close to the harbour for either salmon or tons of spots for bottom fish. We see 12' boats out there quite often at Beg island or the west side of the entrance near the rocks. Two campgrounds there and lots of rental places. I go there every year and can't think of another spot I would rather be!

May you rods always be bent!
 
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