Fireplace insert

Craven the super27 new version has two squirrel caged fans on each side... That being said you can review all of them.... Enviro is a local company http://enviro.com/ and is PE competitor on island...They have a lot of good inserts as well... I think your in the 3-5k range installed no matter which way you go...

If you do go Enviro a friend of mine puts them in through a local company and I can give you his number is you want....

There is one another company in Vancouver also Regency they have good products also: http://www.regency-fire.com/Home.aspx
 
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Scott, I'd consider a pellet insert. They are easy to use, no messing with firewood, and they burn clean and hot.
 
no.....LOL.... Main reason...How well does your pellet stove work when power goes out? And there not maintenance free seen many returns with damages augers etc from people not taking care of them.. Don't get me wrong they have there place but there not maintenance free...

Just curious Dave what is your cost per year on pellets?
 
$150-$200. Most pellet stoves will still burn when power goes out (should note you need a 12v battery)
 
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I have a free standing pellet stove lots of pros and cons. I like that it's on a thermostat set and walk away, a bag can last a few days if I'm away Prawning the wife doesn't need to worry about it, it's clean and pellets are easy and hassle free to get. The power outage is a non issue for me never happens. Negative is cleaning it and maintenance it's a total hassle to me. My 4th season with it and it's never let me down always works when I need it. I can see some parts are starting to rust and will need changing soon. I burn about $400 a year.

Would I buy it again probably not but then again it's like boating there is no perfect set up.
 
Wow that's pretty good.... I assume small house? Usually I was told most do a 40lb bag a day in winter months...And they are usually 5.00 each.

BTW to you guys that have PE stoves.... There hard starting, and need to be run hot before turning them to low. If you don't do that the air wash sytem won't engage and you will get crappy efficiency... BTW There are three types of loading...Criss Cross (fall/spring) for mild weather...East West extended burn (pre winter)...And load north south for cold nights (winter months)....You will use less wood and more out of your insert/stove if you do it this way... Just thought pas it on... As a few said they have PE stoves...
 
Only used to heat living room and kitchen(about 400sq/ft with 8' ceilings). And not used 24/7. It heats up quick and the space in well sealed and insulated. A large, drafty, poorly insulated place with an old unit would be alot more.
 
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SV, I think your thinking about Blaze King. Hard starting, must be heated to temp.

My Super 27 I turn down all the time after say two mins from lighting it there abouts. Many times I come home and think maybe it's gone out cause I dont see smoke from the chimney. I clean my chimmey every year and feel I could go 6-8 years as this PE burns so clean there's nothing to clean. I burn fir 3.5-5 cords a year depending on the weather.

I really like watching a wood fire, the flames are always different. Pellet stoves and gas fire places just don't do it for me.
 
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That is way too soon to shut it right down. Nope not blaze king... The newer ones are harder starting depends what year you have..Only telling you what I tested them too, and BTU output... They need at least on hour or so on high to medium high to get going close to therm equilibrium then add fuel, and turn them down.... When you do that you should see bluish/orange flames shooting down a little on glass coming from the baffle...That is the secondary gases burning, and your air wash system... The secondary gas burn are what makes it efficient..

When shut them down to soon you get smoking, and may not get secondary burn... If you clean your glass all the time your shutting it down to fast...

It should look like this..... Those top flames are what you want if your burning correctly...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCoDf4RaD08
 
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Sorry but I put mine to the test every day and love me PE. I heat my entire home with it and have done so for 8 years now. I have learnt how to get the best, cleanest and longest burn with it to suit my needs. I almost exchanged it last year with a Blaze King as they do have a longer burn, but the creosote build up in them can be killer to clean. I have a friend that gets up to 3 days of heat from one fully loaded stove. I am jealous of that part.
 
Owen. Your still shutting it down too early sorry as well...But do what works for you... I am just giving you what I found through years of testing and R and D, and developing these fireboxes...Wanted to pass it along I have more knowledge on them then the average homeowner... This is based on years and years of data in a test setting, and working with them first hand.. I have seen tons of customer issues and this is one that happens frequently.

Don't know much about blaze king as they never were on the radar as I thing they only have a few inserts...

So you have the Super 27 insert does it have the cast iron top and bottom on it? And it has on either side the two sheet metal shields with diamond patterns...that was a good unit.... Glad its working out for you regardless...
 
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r.s craven said:
Does $3500 -$4000 sound reasonable with a metal chimney liner incl. ?
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Seems to be the standard. It apparently is about the quality of the insert. I see lots pop up on used vic from house demos etc. Seems like you could save yourself a ton of cash. Even new lining comes up. We had a 4-5g quote from wilk a few years ago. I think it was $300 a 3ft section. Plus 2g for the insert. Said brass or chrome peels and discolours, glass goes hazy with cheap ones..? Was going to have another guy come out for a quote this year but made the mistake of telling him a got a quote from wilk and he said he's to busy to come out but wilks is usually on with there estimates. Wasn't thrilled when I asked about putting a used insert in said it would cost more just install new firebricks inside if old ones were worn out.? Still think there is a cheaper way then 4g when your going up basically 15ft threw attic up chimney. and can get a insert for under a G.
 
I have used a Blaze King airtight for years but the regs and insurance around wood burning appliances are getting out of hand. As a home builder the certification is a nightmare. That has driven up costs to the point where I won't be replacing this stove when it's done. I can still get my chainsaw therapy helping friends get their firewood or when I go camping. What I save on insurance will easily pay for increase in gas consumption.
 
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