baddogg
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And now Trump is threatening Governor Carney with 100 percent tariffs over his China deal. What a goof.
Driving an EV pickup
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kaelc
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T.A.C.O.
But seriously we are in a much better position both buying local and used from the US. Most dealerships are adjusting prices as inventory sits for months on end. There is a VI dealer trying to sell a Mach-e that needs to be towed off their lot for 20k. Probably wants $1000 in fees too. What a joke show. https://www.facebook.com/share/1K6gH3K74J/?mibextid=wwXIfr
To bad on the rivians imports but hopefully prices come down as much here as they are in the US I saw Doug Demuro saying it was going to be one of the best deals.
M1SF1T
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I'd rather see Japanese builds. Toyota turbo diesel Landcruisers and Hilux and the newer small basic truck. Those are all super reliable and low cost of ownership vehicles kept out of this country by rules designed to protect the American auto industry that is failing us.
kaelc
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The Maverick hybrid is getting good reviews but not for the truck nuts types and no margins in it so North American manufactures won’t support it.
Price drop on new 60k cad for a lightening. https://www.facebook.com/share/1Bx2nx4cHc/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Price drop on new 60k cad for a lightening. https://www.facebook.com/share/1Bx2nx4cHc/?mibextid=wwXIfr
kaelc
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1268216015152606/?ref=browse_tab 59k cad for a rebuilt Cybertruck
I’ve finally given up on Tesla cars not because of the hitler salute, his weekly white nationalist tweets, how he treats his kids/mothers or his friendship with a pedo but the door handles. They seem like a nightmare for long term maintenance and if there is an accident and the 12v battery gets severed.
Looking forward to the launch of the new Ford
I’ve finally given up on Tesla cars not because of the hitler salute, his weekly white nationalist tweets, how he treats his kids/mothers or his friendship with a pedo but the door handles. They seem like a nightmare for long term maintenance and if there is an accident and the 12v battery gets severed.
Looking forward to the launch of the new Ford
sly_karma
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One of the core values at Tesla is energy efficiency, and they're probably the number one overall in those metrics. One of the most important aspects of efficiency is aerodynamic drag. Reduce frontal area and lower the Cd (coefficient of drag) and you have a car that goes further on a charge without the expense and weight of a bigger battery. So their engineers for years have worked hard to make Teslas as slippery as possible.
The recessed door handles is a part of that, I get it. But they've made them needlessly complicated and overengineered, same with the motorized charge port cover. Take a look at a Ford Mach e to see how a longtime car maker does flush handles and covers without additional electrical complexity. For Lightning, they didn't bother and just went with standard F150 handles. Trucks are so un-aero that the design team obviously decided "why bother"?
EV purists and Tesla fanbois will sniff haughtily at "legacy auto makers", and they have a point in some areas. No question that Tesla has brought EVs into mainstream viability years sooner than if we'd left established car companies to do it, but they lack the decades of experience and data to know what works and what doesn't, what lasts and what gives trouble. My take is Tesla makes excellent EVs, but they're still learning how to build cars and trucks. Ford and GM first-run EV products like Mach e, Lightning, Bolt, Equinox, Silverado have performed well right from launch, with few issues. They have such a vast corporate reserve of design and engineering knowledge that designing and sourcing electric drivetrain components is well within their capacity, while a ground-up design from a company that has no track record building vehicles at all is a far steeper learning curve. You won't see body trims glued onto a Lightning or an e-Silverado, or a trailer hitch that can be sheared off by some maniac youtuber. Sometimes "Doing it differently" isn't always the right path.
The recessed door handles is a part of that, I get it. But they've made them needlessly complicated and overengineered, same with the motorized charge port cover. Take a look at a Ford Mach e to see how a longtime car maker does flush handles and covers without additional electrical complexity. For Lightning, they didn't bother and just went with standard F150 handles. Trucks are so un-aero that the design team obviously decided "why bother"?
EV purists and Tesla fanbois will sniff haughtily at "legacy auto makers", and they have a point in some areas. No question that Tesla has brought EVs into mainstream viability years sooner than if we'd left established car companies to do it, but they lack the decades of experience and data to know what works and what doesn't, what lasts and what gives trouble. My take is Tesla makes excellent EVs, but they're still learning how to build cars and trucks. Ford and GM first-run EV products like Mach e, Lightning, Bolt, Equinox, Silverado have performed well right from launch, with few issues. They have such a vast corporate reserve of design and engineering knowledge that designing and sourcing electric drivetrain components is well within their capacity, while a ground-up design from a company that has no track record building vehicles at all is a far steeper learning curve. You won't see body trims glued onto a Lightning or an e-Silverado, or a trailer hitch that can be sheared off by some maniac youtuber. Sometimes "Doing it differently" isn't always the right path.
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Gong Show
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sly_karma
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Interesting that the various safety agencies in nth america, UK, EU, Japan etc have allowed them to pass. Then again, those same agencies allow electric-only windows too.
