Downrigger's

thas alot of beans to make the ball to up and down!!!! run yur scotties till they can't be repaired anylonger, by a new set and you are still ahead of the game, can't see the advantage for this old cowboy.
 
Charlie, I'm sure the Cannon Mag 20 is the Cadillac of downriggers. I do think some of it comes down to supporting your own. Made in USA works for Charlie and made in Canada works for us Canucks. Scotty is close by for us and dropping the units off after the summer season is over for a free annual factory tuneup is not a problem. Scotty does support a lot of local salmon enhancement efforts as well and that alone should make us locals want to support them.
 

Dogbreath, that price is for the fancy gizmo that most of us don't fish with in the first place. A brand new Mag 10 which has the high speed Minn Kota motor and 250 ft per minute retrieve will run $400 to $450 most places here in the states.

Profisher, I couldn't agree more with your sentiment. I think it's great you support your local economy.
 
I am sure electric riggers are sweet but nothing more simple and cheap than manual riggers and a good arm workout. Extendable 60" Scotties on usedvic cost me $75 for 2.
 
I am sure electric riggers are sweet but nothing more simple and cheap than manual riggers and a good arm workout. Extendable 60" Scotties on usedvic cost me $75 for 2.

I used those for years, but it can get pretty complicated when fishing by yourself with 2 rods out...
and ya gotta have electrics for winter springs !
 
I agree RS

I lasted One season of winter spring fishin with my manuals , add a little wind to a trip by yourself and that a recipe for problems
 
How do you use manual ones anyways??? LOL
 
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A nice option on downriggers

I spoke with Scotty last winter about an idea I had when winter fishing. A nice addition to a downrigger would be the feature to set your downriggers so many feet off the bottom and have the downrigger rise and lower automatically. You would have to use it with a sounder. Another nice feature would be to have some way of raising and lowering multiple downriggers simultaneously. I subsequently heard that Cannon has some of those features. Apart from that, I vote for the Scotty. My only problem is the gear on the top shattered and not once had I used a weight over 13 lbs nor hung up on bottom. Just happened. They fixed it at no cost. That reminds me, now that I have my boat out of the water for a month for updates, I should take my downriggers into Scotty for service. What a nice touch. Great company.
 
There are a couple of minor issues that I've heard as feedback from the new Scotty electrics coming soon. The retrieval rate is so fast it is impossible to keep up to them with a single action reel. The person I talked to had to pop off the rod every time to prevent the slack from tangling into the flasher on the way up. Obviously he was fishing winter depths and maybe had the gear closer to the wire than I might. I think a rubber snubber on the ball will help with the sudden jerk from the stop too, preventing the ball snapping off.
 
I now have 2 new Scotty electrics (1103's or 1104's?) and they work very well. Very pleased with them. I had 2 Cannon manual riggers on the boat for more than 10 years. They are still just fine and they were worked extremely hard and maintained very poorly. It is my opinion that if you are going for manual riggers Cannons are a better bet than Scottys as you are cranking on the vertical rather than the horizontal. Rotator cuff sydrome and all that stuff.....
Because of the longevity of the Cannons I would have stayed with them going to electrics but the price difference was enough to sway me towards the Scottys and their warranty and available service where I fish is very convenient.
 
You are absolutely right on the Canon manuals. Years ago, back in the early 80's, I was working in a machine shop and I didn't like what I saw for sale out there for downriggers so I decided to design my own. With some help from one of the owners of the business, I devised a way to incorporate a Shimano coaster-brake mechanism (for a bike) into a manual downrigger. It worked so well - had a crank & brake in the same handle - that we pursued investigation of its market potential... till we found the Canon. End of story.
 
First off, I have to admit that I've been lurking on this board for some time but I was so surprised by the tone of this thread that I had to register and post.
I'm amazed and thrilled that a group of B.C. fishermen have this level of acceptance for Cannons!

I too used to be a Scotty guy but Cannons offer a faster unit that does more for you with their built-in "Black Box" or Positive Ion Control and I could no longer ignore the advantages!

I have had a chance to run the new, re-designed Cannons and they are very impressive. New rodholder positions and larger, back-lit LED counters are the best innovations I have ever seen on a downrigger. If you get a chance, take a look and decide for yourself.

When choosing between either brand it's really not possible to make a bad choice. It all comes down to your style of fishing.

Personally, I cherish the ability to stand in one spot on the deck and see the depthcounters on all the downriggers. It was the feature I liked best about my old. grey case Penn electrics. Cannon's new big LED counters are readily visible and I'm back to standing in that spot on the deck again!

Good luck and thanks for letting me post on this great board, T
 
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A nice option on downriggers
Quote (have the downrigger rise and lower automatically. You would have to use it with a sounder. Another nice feature would be to have some way of raising and lowering multiple downriggers simultaneously.)

All though a good thought, I don't think this would be practical,
Drag is nice and tight, then the down riggers drop ten feet, there goes the rod or your clip lets go. Some times simple is better, some of the guys I fish with even simple is tough.
 
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There would have to be some really bad things happen to get me away from Scotty. This great local, and Canadian company with the best customer service and warranty over the years that i have ever dealt with will keep my support.
I can get enough fish with the current Scotties i have and more bells and whistles don't cut it for me. If we spend these amounts of energy toward revamping the DFO and ministry there could be enough fish that we could go back to a sinker in front of a dodger and a Tom Mack behind.
JMHO
 
I am sure they are both good and we use what we use for different reasons, but has anyone here actully used the new Scotty 2106 downriggers and does anyone use 20 pound balls with there Scotty or Cannon riggers. I do run twenty's on my old Scotty's from time to time but they really don't like them. I'm looking for something that will pull twenty's with no effort.
 
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