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Hubert Lamb “father of British climatology”– a skeptic worried about distorting fashions in science

Bernie Lewin and the GWPF have launched an excellent historical paper“ “Hubert Lamb And The Transformation Of Climate Science. For those who don’t know Hubert Lamb was the founding Director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia (the infamous CRU of ClimateGate). He was also a skeptic.When he died the then director called him “the greatest climatologist of his time”.

He spent most of his career convincing the world that Earths climate was constantly changing. The irony then, was that the UN then redefined “climate change” to mean man-made climate change, and honored him with a building stocked with researchers who spent a lot of the time playing down all that natural variation. He earned the good will and reputation, and the UN spent it.

Lewin captures the repeating patterns of history. For decades Lamb fought the dogma that claimed the Earths climate was unchanging. He succeeded and was rewarded, but then the dogma was reborn in another guise:


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“..Right through to the end of the 20th century the claim was that both models and data were showing the enhanced greenhouse effect emerging out of the background ‘noise’ of natural variations. Thus the popular idea that global warming is now emerging from a background of climate stability cannot be blamed on simplifications introduced (mischievously or otherwise) by translation into a popular account. Rather, this idea is in perfect fidelity with the new science, where the old meteorologist’s dogma of natural climate stability has been reintroduced as the baseline assumption, despite all the new evidence to the contrary. In this way, the new orthodoxy of anthropogenic climate change is only the undefeated old orthodoxy re-appearing, but cloaked anew.

Another way to view this is that, indeed, Lamb did help establish the idea of a changing climate. But this quickly became the ground upon which the anthropogenic scare was built. Once built, the foundations were artfully concealed by the new definition of ‘climate change’ as all man made. Lamb’s fame was then appropriated to support this new view. This enhanced his reputation, while at the same time traducing it.

In 2006 Lamb appeared in a listing of the ‘top 100 world-changing discoveries, innovations and research projects to come out of the UK universities’ for the innovation of establishing ‘climate change as a serious research subject’. 129,130

Thus, and in the same year that the CRU building was renamed in his honour, Lamb came to be honoured for an innovation that he had aspersed from the beginning right until the end of his life.

He worried about the distortions in science, and talked, not just of power plays and money, but fashions in thinking that came and went. In the 1930s the idea that the solar cycle affected the climate became so unpopular he said that to speak of the possibility, was “to brand oneself as a crank”. The theory of CO2 driven warming was also popular mid-century (when it was warm) but waned in the 1960s as things cooled… p31

9 Witness to a science transforming

After six years as director of CRU, Lamb’s idyll of ‘calm academic research’ had finally slipped away. In retirement he began to wonder aloud about what had caused the science to go astray. One factor was the distorting influence of public controversy:

“Money to fund research may be more or less readily forthcoming according to what the results appear (or are expected) to indicate. This irrelevant influence – to which all countries seem liable in only varying degrees –may be backed by powerful interests and threatens to cloud the possibilities of scientific understanding.121

Then there was the problem of powerful individuals ‘creating barriers to scientific advance’ in order to protect their own interests. But Lamb considered that ‘neither political ulterior motives nor the abuse of power by individuals is the whole story’.

“There are also fashions in scientific work, whereby some theory catches on and gains a wide following, and while that situation reigns, mostworkers aim their efforts to following the logic of the theory and its applications, and tend to be oblivious to things that do not quite fit.

“The swings of fashion among meteorological and climatic research leaders over the carbon dioxide effect provide an extreme example.122

In his reflections elsewhere on scientific fashion, Lamb also recalls how solar forcing suddenly went out of fashion in the 1930s after bold forecasts based on the sunspot cycle by senior British meteorologists turned out to be wildly wrong.‡‡ Years later, and despite new evidence, for a young scientist ‘to entertain any statement of sun–weather relationships,’ recalls Lamb, ‘was to brand oneself as a crank’.124

But in his ‘extreme example’ of fashion swings, Lamb observes how the fashion for the carbon dioxide effect waxed and waned as the climate in mid-northern latitudes warmed and cooled – yet with some years’ lag. It waxed mid-century, following early 20th century warming, only to wane in the 1960s…

“…when it was obvious that the climate in the Northern Hemisphere was
getting colder (despite greater output of synthetic carbon dioxide than
ever before) from the late 1950s till about 1974.

Then the theory ‘rose to renewed dominance around 1980’:

“It only revived after a run of up to 8 mildwinters in a row affected much of Europe and parts of North America in the 1970s and 1980s. There then came a tremendous preponderance of publications on global warming, dominating the research literature, although over-all temperature averages in some regions, particularly in the Arctic, were still moving downward. 125

The full paper (pdf) is well worth reading for those who are interested in history.
 
Really, you can read your quote? Starts with between 1951 and 1970.



Thanks for this Ziggy. I was - of course - alluding to the satellite technology - although that blog is still misleading as there have been weather buoys in service since the 1970s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_buoy

"Between 1951 and 1970, a total of 21 NOMAD buoys were built and deployed at sea.[3] Since the 1970s, weather buoy use has superseded the role of weather ships by design, as they are cheaper to operate and maintain.[4] The earliest reported use of drifting buoys was to study the behavior of ocean currents within the Sargasso Sea in 1972 and 1973.[5] Drifting buoys have been used increasingly since 1979, and as of 2005, 1250 drifting buoys roamed the Earth's oceans.[6]"

Weather buoys use neither ships intakes nor XBT.

In addition, satellite pop-up tags and similar technology has been used since 1998: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop-up_satellite_archival_tag

Van Dorn and modern improvements to that method have been used since the 1930s to get water samples at depths.

so no - this blog article is still not accurate about both the dates, and the availability of different platforms and different sampling methodologies and equipment.
 
Read all the replies from scientists yet? This was not at the end of the page.

Thanks for this link, OBD. It's obvious that you haven't read it yet, though.

Just skip to the bottom summary where it says:

"In summary, it is possible to look through 40,000 stations and select those that the algorithm has warmed; and, it’s possible to ignore those that the algorithm has cooled. As the spatial maps show it is also possible to select entire continents where the algorithm has warmed the record; and, it’s possible to focus on other continents were the opposite is the case. Globally however, the effect of adjustments is minor. It’s minor because on average the biases that require adjustments mostly cancel each other out"

Kinda shooting yourself in the foot there OBD.
 
Trudeau's Carbon Scheme Targets Alberta

Liberal Party Leader Justin Trudeau
Liberal Party Leader Justin Trudeau
What does Justin Trudeau really think about Alberta and the oilsands and the people who work there?

The real answer is he probably doesn't think a lot about it -- or any other policy area. Trudeau is more about looking dreamy. He leaves the grown-up stuff, like policy, to someone else. In this case, to Gerald Butts, his "principal adviser."

Butts has quite a lot to say about the oilsands. For years, he was the boss of the World Wildlife Fund Canada, an environmentalist lobby group that took hundreds of thousands of dollars from foreign interests to campaign against the oilsands. Never against OPEC oil; only against Canadian oil.

When he was at the WWF, Butts compared government oilsands defenders to tobacco executives. Here's the first few lines of a column he wrote for the Toronto Star, Canada's largest newspaper: "Keep smoking, kids. We need the tax revenue. Trust us, we will cure cancer by the time you get it. So goes our national political leaders' myopic view of the tar sands."

In 2012, Butts was asked about the Northern Gateway Pipeline. His answer was blunt: "Truth be told, we don't think there ought to be a carbon-based energy industry by the middle of this century... The real alternative is not an alternative route, it's an alternative economy."

Canada is the second-largest country in the world, one of the coldest countries in the world. But Butts believes we should simply stop using oil or gas, and rely on expensive, experimental green technology to heat our homes and move around. It's bizarre, it's deeply unserious.

Yet is clearly animates Trudeau's approach to the oilsands. Trudeau visited Calgary against last week and he outlined his plan for a carbon tax. He said we have to do it, because the oilsands have shamed our country internationally.

"You get a lot of people around the world who are worried about climate change who are looking for something that they can point to or something to do. And the lack of environmental responsibility on the world stage by Canada has led to people being able to point to our oilsands and make them, entirely unfairly, the poster child for climate change."

You stupid, greedy Albertans. You have shamed us internationally. You have brought this carbon tax upon yourself.

"If we want to restore our international reputation, something we need to create jobs and spur investment, we must take action and we must do it now ...And that starts with a mature and honest conversation about carbon pricing."

It's not true, of course. Canada is actually the most reputable country in the world, according to an international survey of 27,000 people done by the Reputation Institute.

And our carbon emissions - which have decreased under Stephen Harper's government - just aren't something other people care about. The liberal Pew Research Centre did a poll just last month asking Americans about their priorities. "Climate change" ranked 22nd out of 23 possible choices. No one cares. Global warming doesn't even register in polls of Third World countries - that's a made-up problem for rich white folks. Like Trudeau.

Trudeau says he'll bring in a law requiring provinces to "price" carbon - that's code for taxing it. When Sun News Network asked him three times if he would penalize a province that doesn't go along with it, he refused to answer, three times.

But when you're trying to end Canada's international shame, and eliminate an entire carbon economy, what's a little Alberta-baiting?

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ClayoquotKid

It's disgraceful how you and the Heartland Institute have used this 90+ year old retired Admiral to do your bidding for the Koch Brothers. Graphs and data and so called "facts". Question for you CK .. why did you not copy paste the whole page? Did you think I would not spot where you got this?


"an open letter to William Ruckelshaus, the first EPA Administrator, written by former U.S. Navy Admiral Thomas B. Hayward, a former chief of naval operations and commander-in-chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, rebutting testimony on climate change delivered by Ruckelshaus and other former EPA employees sometime earlier that year."

Lets just go through this one "fact" at a time......

FACT is, temperatures were 1-2 degrees higher than present for almost all of the past 10,000 years. (See red part of the graph below)
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3 things...
1- Since when is Greenland temperature a proxy for the whole earth?
2- If your going to make a statement that " 1-2 degrees warmer then present" then you need to show the present temperature in Greenland.
3- It's clear that the data stops at 1905, has all temp records suddenly stopped? would it not make sense to show all the records? Perhaps the author is trying to hide something...

FACT is, since 1480 AD, there have been more than 20 periods warmer than present, long before that nemesis CO2 began to rise. (see red areas in graph below)
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1- "20 periods warmer then the present" Why does the data stop at 1945?
2- If your going claim to compare something with the present, then we need to see the present.
3- Again the author has something to hide..... what could that be?

FACT is, there have been three periods of global warming and three periods of global cooling since 1850. The first two occurred BEFORE rise in atmospheric CO2. See graph below.
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1- Looks like someone is trying to convince us that we are going down the up escalator.
2- See the trendline that looks like it has been erased. Trying to hide something perhaps?
Here is a copy of what the current graph looks like with a five year running average.
Notice the trend.......
trend

That's all the time I have for now but will return to this latter.....
At this point I'm disgusted with CK and Heartland and feel bad for that 90+ year old Admiral.
Does your team have no shame?

added....

FACT is, there has been no global warming over the past 17 years and 9 months, an observation that the IPCC has been unable (or unwilling) to address. See graph below.
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1- no warming? yup a classic case of "cherry picking the data" You just have to pick the right starting point and you can make the data look however you want. A fools game. Want proof let's look at the next one...

FACT is, global COOLING, not warming, has been occurring for the past decade. (See downward sloping satellite data in the graph below)

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1 - Look now we have global cooling.... LOL So one "fact" say's no warming with proof of the trend line and now another "fact" with global cooling with the trend line going down. Two "facts" that can't be correct at the same time........

That's all I'm going to bother with this post as CK you are a waste of my time with your nonsense. Look's like you got sucked in by the Koch Brothers. What does that make you? Care to make a guess?

OK one more before I leave this crap.

FACT: Arctic sea ice, that evinced unusually large melting in 2012, has returned to its normal state and rates of accumulation and melting.

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Does the "fact" look right? Has it returned to normal? The denialists are denying it's the warmest year. Which makes sense if you're in denial.....
 
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The Greatest Scientific Fraud of all Time, Part 3


Francis Menton

A few weeks ago, in mid-January, you would have had a hard time missing the big shouting and celebration in the global warming alarmist camp of 2014 being the “hottest year ever.” As just a few examples, there was Scientific American on January 5 ("2014 Officially Hottest Year On Record"); the BBC on January 16 ("2014 warmest year on record, say US researchers"”; or the New York Times on January 16 ("2014 Breaks Heat Record, Challenging Global Warming Skeptics"). There were plenty of others like those.

If you read all of those articles, without doubt you will come away asking yourself one glaring question, namely: So what did the satellites show? Not one of these articles, or for that matter any of many others from the alarmist camp that I have looked at, so much as mentions the satellite data. But anybody who follows this issue even a little knows that beginning in 1979 the U.S. government at great taxpayer expense has put up satellites with sophisticated instruments to get much more accurate measurements of world temperatures than previously available. The alternative networks of ground based thermometers still exist, but have widely scattered coverage and are subject to large inaccuracies (like from having cities grow up around them, or having their sites moved over the years). So SA, BBC, NYT: How could you insult our intelligence with articles trumpeting “hottest year ever” without telling us what the satellites say?

Luckily it’s not too hard to figure out what the satellites say—their data is published monthly by two sources, UAH and RSS. Here’s an article summarizing the results from both. Of course it’s exactly what you knew it would be as soon as you saw that the likes of the liars at SA, BBC and NYT wouldn’t tell you what the satellites say: 2014 was not the hottest year, nor close, but rather tied for 6th/7th place in the 36 year record from RSS, 0.3 degrees C cooler than the warmest year, which was 1998—16 years ago. Now 0.3 degrees C may not be a lot, but it’s also not a little in a record that only varies by about 1.2 degrees C from coolest to warmest year.

But it gets worse. Regular readers of this blog know that there is a gigantic issue out there of the extent to which the ground thermometer records can be trusted because the guardians of the data (who are the same people putting out the press releases about 2014 being the “hottest year ever") have been systematically tampering with the data to make the earlier years cooler and therefore make the present appear warmer by comparison. I previously wrote about this issue on July 3, 2014 (”What Is The Greatest Scientific Fraud Of All Time—Part II”wink and on July 19, 2013 (”What Is The Greatest Scientific Fraud Of All Time?”wink Those articles name names, both of the crooked U.S. government paid fake scientists who “adjust” the raw thermometer data without explanation to fit the desired narrative of “hottest year ever,” and also of the independent researchers who laboriously track down old archived temperature records to uncover the tampering.

Just today this issue is starting to explode. It was at the top of Drudge earlier today, although now gradually falling back. Drudge linked to an article by Christopher Booker in the UK Telegraph from Saturday titled “The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever.” (Wait, are they stealing their headlines from me? OK, not quite.) Booker discusses the work of Paul Homewood, reported on his blog notalotofpeopleknowthat. Sample (from Booker):

Homewood has now turned his attention to the weather stations across much of the Arctic, between Canada (51 degrees W) and the heart of Siberia (87 degrees E). Again, in nearly every case, the same one-way adjustments have been made, to show warming up to 1 degree C or more higher than was indicated by the data that was actually recorded. This has surprised no one more than Traust Jonsson, who was long in charge of climate research for the Iceland met office (and with whom Homewood has been in touch). Jonsson was amazed to see how the new version completely “disappears” Iceland’s “sea ice years” around 1970, when a period of extreme cooling almost devastated his country’s economy. See Iceland changes here.

Homewood has also uncovered massive tampering from Paraguay. John Hinderaker of Power Line includes numerous animated GIFs from Homewood demonstrating the data tampering from Paraguay. Homewood adds his work to the extensive output of Tony Heller (who blogs under the name Steven Goddard) of realscience. Heller has uncovered and reported on data tampering at dozens of sites. Just today he reports on Addison, New York. In every instance, whether Siberia, Paraguay, or upstate New York, it’s always the same thing—the past has been cooled to make the present look warmer by comparison. But how could the past somehow have suddenly gotten cooler, 50 or 80 or 100 years after the fact?

Lots and lots of people have demanded an explanation from the guys at NCDC/GISS who put out the adjusted/tampered data and then claim “hottest year ever.” They won’t give any.

So, Scientific American, BBC, New York Times, and all the rest of you who uncritically report the greatest scientific fraud of all time as if it was the truth: When are you going to tell us the real story?
 
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Really, you can read your quote? Starts with between 1951 and 1970.
Actually, OBD - our debate started way before this one. It started at you claiming:
First there are none [temperature recorders]in the oceans.
which was IMHO another foolish and unsupported statement by you. Once I challenged you - Instead of admitting you had made a serious error in judgement you forged on:
In the era before Argo (2003), measurements of ocean temperature were made from ships by putting a thermometer in a bucket of water drawn up from the surface or in the inlet valves of the engines, or by diving darts (XBTs) that could dive down to 800m with a thermometer...
I then challenged that statement - that I am guessing was not made by you but by another climate change denier blogger. So I challenged that assertion and provided context about other platforms and other methodologies. AGAIN - instead of admitting you had made yet another mistake by blindly cutting and pasting again, you instead posted:
Global is not covered by 21 buoys. Wikipedia you new choice of knowledge?
AGAIN you made yet another mistake by claiming there were only 21 ocean buoys in the world. Guess what? After I challenged you on this - yet another mistake - instead of owning up to yet another mistake - you posted:
Really, you can read your quote? Starts with between 1951 and 1970.
Actually the post you originally cut and pasted the nexus of this debate incorrectly spoke about what was done pre-2003:
In the era before Argo (2003), measurements of ocean temperature were made...
So - guess what? You are wrong yet again - and you have ignored and taken no ownership of any of your numerous mistakes.
 
It's disgraceful how you and the Heartland Institute have used this 90+ year old retired Admiral to do your bidding for the Koch Brothers. Graphs and data and so called "facts". Question for you CK .. why did you not copy paste the whole page? Did you think I would not spot where you got this?
So the Kochs or one of their think tank buddies got a 90-something year old Admiral to buy into a conspiracy theory about all the many thousands of scientists in the world creating a mass hoax to kill jobs. Why are we even having this conversation?

You know many years ago -as the story goes - another infamous Admiral didn't understand what pingos were and was surprised beyond belief when the old paper chart transducers showed a dramatic rise in soundings in the Arctic. He inadvertently poked his finger through the chart paper in his frustration and excitement. Hence and forevermore that pingo became known as the "Admiral's Finger".

If this Admiral thinks climate change is all BS - maybe we should label his letter and the paper it was printed on as "Admiral's toilet paper".
 
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Something to think about on the course we are heading on. A study from the Quinsam River, Campbell River BC

Adaptive potential of a Pacific salmon challenged by climate change


http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v5/n2/full/nclimate2473.html

Pacific salmon provide critical sustenance for millions of people worldwide and have far-reaching impacts on the productivity of ecosystems. Rising temperatures now threaten the persistence of these important fishes[SUP]1, 2[/SUP], yet it remains unknown whether populations can adapt. Here, we provide the first evidence that a Pacific salmon has both physiological and genetic capacities to increase its thermal tolerance in response to rising temperatures. In juvenile chinook salmon (Oncorhynchus tshawytscha), a 4 °C increase in developmental temperature was associated with a 2 °C increase in key measures of the thermal performance of cardiac function[SUP]3, 4[/SUP]. Moreover, additive genetic effects significantly influenced several measures of cardiac capacity, indicative of heritable variation on which selection can act. However, a lack of both plasticity and genetic variation was found for the arrhythmic temperature of the heart, constraining this upper thermal limit to a maximum of 24.5 ± 2.2°C. Linking this constraint on thermal tolerance with present-day river temperatures and projected warming scenarios[SUP]5[/SUP], we predict a 17% chance of catastrophic loss in the population by 2100 based on the average warming projection, with this chance increasing to 98% in the maximum warming scenario. Climate change mitigation is thus necessary to ensure the future viability of Pacific salmon populations.

Figure 1: Mean increase in maximum heart rate (fHmax) among all offspring from the +0 °C (black line) and +4 °C (grey line) treatment groups of Quinsam River chinook salmon (O. tshawytscha).
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Offspring were reared in two temperature treatments, reflecting current and future conditions, and the response of their fHmax to warming was measured from their acclimation temperature. Shown for each treatment group are the Arrhenius…


Figure 2: Norms of reaction among paternal half-sib families of Quinsam River chinook salmon (O. tshawytscha).
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af, Offspring were reared in current (+0 °C) and future (+4 °C) temperature conditions and measured for their resting fH (fHrest;a), peak fH (fHpeak; b), scope for fH (fHscope; c), Arrhenius break temperature (TAB; d), the temperatur…



So what does this mean.......
If we continue with business as usual there is a 98% chance that by 2100 it will be game over for fishing for springs here in the SoG. If we take action now and try to keep the temps below 2C there is only a 17% chance it will be game over. Or we could listen to the fossil fuel companies and party hard and leave it for our kids to fix the problem. But then, if you think about it, it would probably be too late and we would have sold them down the river.

Time for action...... first things first, peer pressure.
 
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Stream temperature database & high-resolution NorWeST climate scenarios
 
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Climate Change Effects on Pacific Northwest Ecosystems NPLCC Webinar
 
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