Chinook and Coho Returns

I would think that if fisheries wants the book filled out they may provide that info back to those spending the time to fill them out, not sure???
 
So far the numbers at our local hatchery are really good.

Usual pink numbers: 700-900
This year: 3500+

Usual coho: 1200
This year: 2500+, and they are way larger than normal

That's all that I know of for now. Great numbers as far as I'm concerned. Good flow of water in the creek aswell.

FishWish
 
Yeah, then look at the stamp river, and think about returns. must be nice some places are good others arnt. It must be somthing to do with them danm DFO F**KERS Not getting there facts straight and screwing it up for everyone. What a freakin joke.

-Steve
 
Yeah, i could see not every river having great returns. But when you know that the poor returns are 100% impact of a poor decision of DFO you have to wonder What The F**k are they thinking. On a higher note the sooke river estuary seems to be holding strong numbers of Coho up to 18 pounds! This is Awsome!!!! Great job by the Demamial Hatchery! And all those who help out with the clipping! Witnessed a 13 pound hatchery being caught and thought that was awsome!


-Steve
 
Yeah I agree ffg89
DFO has done nothing but slaughter EVERYTHING returning to the SSS system.. seiners out in front of the river for 3 weeks in a row with LOW water levels and warm temps..mass slaughter.

Someone needs to loose their job over this one... but it has happened the last 2 years in a row.

Lets figure out a way to stop this ..before it is too late!

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I am not even local to SSS system, and have only fished up there once in my life. I am so disgusted in what has happened. For all who are local fisherman. I feel for ya! and i hope somthing is done about this soon! If there were to be some sort of rally or protest. i would be on my way to wherever it was! Because the way the fishery has been managed is sickening!

-Steve
 
Cheers Bob Cole (SFAB),


RE: Bob Cole asked….”Does anyone have an explanation of the almost "flat line" of (Somass) Chinook escapement or have we messed up big time?”

What is this WE? The only WE I know is the recreational fishery which is an economic engine that drives much of the tourism of BC’s West Coast. Report after report places the economic contribution of the recreational fishery solidly in first place with second place a very distant consideration. It really is a tourism fishery. This fishery has evolved based on DFO’s stated ‘priority access’ to Chinook, coho and, in certain situations, sockeye. However WE don't set the limits! WE don't put the commercial boats on the water! WE don't put the commercial native fishery on the water! WE don’t allow the FSC fishery to become another major commercial slaughter with no intestinal fortitude to manage it for what the courts intended. Shall I continue?

I was under the impression that the ‘precautionary principle’ was first and foremost DFO’s prime directive, and that DFO’s priority was conservation of the target escapement for the river and hatchery before all others.

I am mad as HELL! Year after year DFO mismanages this valuable recreational fishery trying to please everyone, in spite of the economics, without an integrated Barkley Sound Salmon Production and Harvest Plan. To watch ten thousand Chinook harvested the week before the Port Alberni Salmon Festival in 2009 and 2008 defies comprehension, especially by my clients who cancel only to rebook elsewhere. As the other resource industries recede, the recreational fishery, along with the Port Alberni Salmon Festival, have became vital economic events yet now find themselves threatened.

Some people need to lose their jobs! Not that this will solve the problem, but it may put a renewed responsibility and possibly a more responsive management/data regime in place.

This appears to be a singular opportunity for the Sport Fish Advisory Board process to speak forcefully that we are mad as hell and will not repeat this situation. Where is the media?

Either WE scream bloody murder for immediate change, then help make significant steps that will ensure that the precautionary principle and a new business model is embraced or, WE simply give up as WE are truly wasting everyone’s time and squandering a fabulous Canadian asset. There simply may well be no fish left for us to protect. “WE” CAN DO BETTER!


Sincerely,

Gerald Rupp
www.invictuscharters.com
www.fishingvancouverisland.org
 
Everyone should be concerned with what might be going on in the Stamp. If enough fish don't show up in the next 2 weeks I can tell you there will be more restrictions in 4 years coast wide to protect what few adults are returning to the system...it has happened before. Rolling catch and release only closures on Chinook in 1996. So a few commercial guys took a few thousand sub prime fish out of the canal to sell for a few bucks a pound. The potential result, hundreds of thousands of dollars of lost revenue to the sport industry coast wide in 4 years!!
Politicians are to blame.....No wonder they take less money to work for the government where they can run something at a deficit and that is perceived to be ok.
 
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