Brag and show!

quote:Originally posted by h-core

Keep what comes up first. Those of you that think releasing small bottomfish in hopes of getting a big one is better for the stocks must not realize that they don't all make it back to the bottom. There is hooking mortality ect...If a guy wants to blow his limit on a 5 lb'er, good for him. The guy that catches and releases 10 ping pong paddles to find a good one is likely doing more harm. How many of you whiners only take a few of everything for the year? Do you stop your selves after you've caught a couple days limit and stop killing for the year? Do you still come out and just catch & release? Do you think that you are not killing at least a few to hook mortality? Or do you put the boat away after you've caught an exceptable amount of fish?
I would say yes, that is what I do. If a fish doesn't look like it would make it then I'd keep it, if it's legal. I don't need to go out day after day catching whatever the law says I'm allowed. You need to have some common sense as the people that make the rules don't seem to have any.

Maybe you can stop whining for awhile and let us know what you do. Do you keep on going out after you've caught all the fish you need and then start filling all your friends and relatives freezer.

Being concerned about fish stocks is not whining. You might call it a voice of reason rather than the voice of greed.
 
Funny, I seem to remember a lot of complaining about the reduced limit for halibut this year.Now a guy shows a picture of his catch which is within DFO's limits and people still complain.
Come on guys,thats his livelihood.If his guests want to limit out then they have the right-BY LAW! I guarantee you if you are telling guests not to keep fish they are entitled to they will not be a repeat customer.

Well done Serengeti!


Hooch
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quote:Originally posted by MRWood

quote:Originally posted by h-core

Keep what comes up first. Those of you that think releasing small bottomfish in hopes of getting a big one is better for the stocks must not realize that they don't all make it back to the bottom. There is hooking mortality ect...If a guy wants to blow his limit on a 5 lb'er, good for him. The guy that catches and releases 10 ping pong paddles to find a good one is likely doing more harm. How many of you whiners only take a few of everything for the year? Do you stop your selves after you've caught a couple days limit and stop killing for the year? Do you still come out and just catch & release? Do you think that you are not killing at least a few to hook mortality? Or do you put the boat away after you've caught an exceptable amount of fish?
I would say yes, that is what I do. If a fish doesn't look like it would make it then I'd keep it, if it's legal. I don't need to go out day after day catching whatever the law says I'm allowed. You need to have some common sense as the people that make the rules don't seem to have any.

Maybe you can stop whining for awhile and let us know what you do. Do you keep on going out after you've caught all the fish you need and then start filling all your friends and relatives freezer.

Being concerned about fish stocks is not whining. You might call it a voice of reason rather than the voice of greed.

Filling my friends & familly's freezers? LOL...not likely, maybe if they made my boat payments for me. I kill less in a year than I can eat. If I had more time, I'd kill what I could eat and then stop. The only catch and release I do in the chuck is a little bit of light tackle coho from time to time-small single barbless hooks. Or if a small chinook(legal feeder in the summer) comes to the boat and is not badly hooked-only if fishing is good though, otherwise I bonk it and move on. If it's badly hooked, it gets bonked. Usually I kill what's legal and then go do something else. If I'm fishing Nootka and my boat tubb's out on Chinook, I generally move on and leave the remaining biters for someone else. If I'm bottom fishing, the first legal ones to come up die. Doesn't matter if it's a ping pong paddle or a ling that's 1/2 a cm over. BUT, if others want to catch and release all day, have at it! Just don't think your all high and mighty and don't have some impact. We all have impact. If you want to leave fish in the water, good on you! But if someone only fishes once or twice a year and chooses to limit out, that's their choice. DFO is to blame for the state of our fisheries. The sad part it, they set the TAC and what we leave behind often get mopped up by commi's anyways. SAD, SICK but true. Many people do kill in excess, that's why I don't have a problem with yearly limits an species such as halibut & lingcod. If the halibut limit was 10 per year, I doubt anybody would suffer too much. I also doubt that many people can eat 30 chinook per year. Some can & do, but most who tag out are likely giving some away. However, if we we're further restricted, it would be important to know that what we leave in the water for conservation doesn't just equal an increase in the commercial TAC.

So what's your game?
 
Hey David

nice catch for you and your dad!!!

Some great fish that will last a couple years and memories that will last a life time. All caught on hook and line with limits set out by law, from guest who are paying their hard erned $$$ to do what most of us get to do all summer long.

and that big fish is a hog!!!

Good to see all the big fish on here.

Here is my biggest this year
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Maybe we should have a post about the smallest or least amount of fish caught, bet that would fill up in a hurry[:p]:D

Cheers

SS

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quote:Originally posted by h-core

quote:Originally posted by MRWood

quote:Originally posted by h-core

Keep what comes up first. Those of you that think releasing small bottomfish in hopes of getting a big one is better for the stocks must not realize that they don't all make it back to the bottom. There is hooking mortality ect...If a guy wants to blow his limit on a 5 lb'er, good for him. The guy that catches and releases 10 ping pong paddles to find a good one is likely doing more harm. How many of you whiners only take a few of everything for the year? Do you stop your selves after you've caught a couple days limit and stop killing for the year? Do you still come out and just catch & release? Do you think that you are not killing at least a few to hook mortality? Or do you put the boat away after you've caught an exceptable amount of fish?
I would say yes, that is what I do. If a fish doesn't look like it would make it then I'd keep it, if it's legal. I don't need to go out day after day catching whatever the law says I'm allowed. You need to have some common sense as the people that make the rules don't seem to have any.

Maybe you can stop whining for awhile and let us know what you do. Do you keep on going out after you've caught all the fish you need and then start filling all your friends and relatives freezer.

Being concerned about fish stocks is not whining. You might call it a voice of reason rather than the voice of greed.

Filling my friends & familly's freezers? LOL...not likely, maybe if they made my boat payments for me. I kill less in a year than I can eat. If I had more time, I'd kill what I could eat and then stop. The only catch and release I do in the chuck is a little bit of light tackle coho from time to time-small single barbless hooks. Or if a small chinook(legal feeder in the summer) comes to the boat and is not badly hooked-only if fishing is good though, otherwise I bonk it and move on. If it's badly hooked, it gets bonked. Usually I kill what's legal and then go do something else. If I'm fishing Nootka and my boat tubb's out on Chinook, I generally move on and leave the remaining biters for someone else. If I'm bottom fishing, the first legal ones to come up die. Doesn't matter if it's a ping pong paddle or a ling that's 1/2 a cm over. BUT, if others want to catch and release all day, have at it! Just don't think your all high and mighty and don't have some impact. We all have impact. If you want to leave fish in the water, good on you! But if someone only fishes once or twice a year and chooses to limit out, that's their choice. DFO is to blame for the state of our fisheries. The sad part it, they set the TAC and what we leave behind often get mopped up by commi's anyways. SAD, SICK but true. Many people do kill in excess, that's why I don't have a problem with yearly limits an species such as halibut & lingcod. If the halibut limit was 10 per year, I doubt anybody would suffer too much. I also doubt that many people can eat 30 chinook per year. Some can & do, but most who tag out are likely giving some away. However, if we we're further restricted, it would be important to know that what we leave in the water for conservation doesn't just equal an increase in the commercial TAC.

So what's your game?
Your attitude sounds like mine and I agree with what you are saying. I just don't like to see the big number catches shown off as I think it sends the wrong message. Let's see the big lunkers. Here's one for the post. I'm a magician at making the fish look big.
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There were regs and unsustainable retention limits 30 years ago as well and where did that bring us? If you just want to keep closing your eyes and blindly trust DFO for proper resource management then you might as well say our fishery bye bye. There is something to be said about responsible and foresighted fishermen and guides. We don't need ignorant sheep of DFO's mismanagement. We are out there fishing our honeyholes everyday, I would trust us sportfishermen a way better judgement about the conditions of the fish stocks. But if we remain blatant and ignorant and see only todays fishing success for a quick buck then we are truly doomed.
 
Come on guys, the purpose for me starting this thread was for people to get a chance to show off a bit. Start a ethics thread if you want to discuss some of this stuff! Those who posted on topic, some excellent fish! I need to figure out how to post a pic then you will see a monster! lol. ;) Is there a help that I have not seen for this?
 
The comment I loved best was that it must of cleaned out that reef in the one day alone...that shows that you really have no idea about the territory we fish. You have absolutely no idea how many lings are on the spots we fish...obviously by that comment. Plus it isn't an everyday thing to head out to them...maybe one in 4 days if that. And if you were paying $2000 a day and were told you were not allowed to catch anymoer fish even though you are legally obliged to, what would you say? I'm pretty sure it would start with a F and end in a U. And the halibut were around 20lbs, not 8lbs. The guests were only fishing for one day so they rightfully so would want as many fish as they could get to put int heir freezer..and anyone who says they couldn't eat all that between 8 people and 3 families is just plain stupid.

And SnapperAttack, you know who I am and how to contact me, so if you want to talk about poor guiding ethics...but the fact you think they are 8lbs alone shows some something right there.

To say that any guide doesn't think about sustainability is silly. "masacres" as one said like this don't happen everyday out there...this was probably our best day of the season, in top 3 anyway. I do enjoy the pounce attitude of some people on this forum...and you guys wonder why there are no Hardy reports from Hardy guides...hmmmm...

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Well, I would really like to hear from you: how many lings are in this territory you catch them? How do you know? For how many years observed? If you know so much then please share your knowledge and maybe we feel more confident that you actually do not take more than is sustainable. The $2000 argument is lame because the cost does by no means justify the doing.

quote:To say that any guide doesn't think about sustainability is silly.
Oh yeah? So those charter guides out of Oak Bay 30 years ago had even the slightest consideration for sustainability you find? When they allowed each of their guests to take home 20-30 rock fish and lings? And that throughout most of the summer days? Hmmm You better take off your rose-coloured glasses and see what the reality is.
 
quote:Originally posted by Merrittboy

Come on guys, the purpose for me starting this thread was for people to get a chance to show off a bit. Start a ethics thread if you want to discuss some of this stuff! Those who posted on topic, some excellent fish! I need to figure out how to post a pic then you will see a monster! lol. ;) Is there a help that I have not seen for this?
Hi Merrit Boy,
Sorry your thread got off in a direction you did not intend. Here is info on posting a pic:
Go to www.photobucket.com and setup an account. Upload your pictures to Photobucket. Then, while on Photobucket.com you will be able to see your pictures there. Underneath each one will be 4 "tags", your just copy the contents of the image tag, and paste it into your message on SFBC and your pic will appear in your post.
 
6 year time span calmsea...fishing has stayed just as good if not better. Let me rephrase that...to say that any guide out of port hardy does not think of sustainability as i know most of them and all have that in mind. This year all the halibut over 100lbs we caught we suggested nicely to the clients to release them and all were more than happy to after getting a few pictures. Many of our clients are american and few are pushy...most are awesome people...lets not generalize here.

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haha well... it was a pretty quiet year for me, so i am going to brag about my 24 pounder from sherringham in sooke! biggest of the year was 27 lbs at bamfield along the wall. but no photo. ohh well, get the big ones next season! having said that however, these 24 and 27 pounders make me as happy as a pig in ****!:D
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The comment I like the best, "Poor guiding ethics? Or pushy American tourists?" Has to be ethics, as I know there aren't any pushy Americans tourists around! :D

The comment about lings, I haven't targeted a ling for years for the very reasons stated, but that doesn't mean no one else can or doesn't have the right. If I do hook one and if it's legal, it goes in the box! It's no difference than retaining a 40 or 50 pound salmon, is it? Some don't believe we should keep them either. It is our personal preference!

I probably turn more fish back than most on here and would not have kept that much myself, as there is no way my family would eat that much, but if they did… and I was on my "one day" trip out of a year? I would have kept everyone of those fish! I would rather see them on the dock, than floating belly up as I did see, as I was passing "Beechie" this year? That just flat out made me sick! That is the waste that needs to be stopped, along with deep hooking a wild Coho, with a treble and watching it float belly up!

I see nothing wrong with your "ethics" and can only say, Job well done David!

Now... LET'S SEE THOSE "HOGS"!

Forgot to upload it! :D

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BTW... it's in my freezer!
 
Hey Serengetti, nice day!

rock cod caught deep, then released become gull food. They die on the top, so you have to keep or waste... swim bladders & all that.

I fish the shore from Sidney to Jordan River... No boat.

I've caught 40 ling without moving more than turning a different angle. None were 60cm+, but for sure 40 in a couple hours is a lot of ling. This isn't a one day phenom.. but happens several times each season.

I tend to believe the 60+ move deeper and farther out than I can cast, and I ONLY use artificials, never dead bait nor, like some who use chopped up rock cod or pile worms.

Last year over 400 ling, this year near 400.

I wrote about 'Leapin Ling Cod".. on the shallow gravel beaches, and they were and are still there by the hundred. Just all are sub-60cm.

What I release each year are a hundred or so rock cod & over 400 lings. Then about 50 greenling.

If I were on Serengetti's charter boat, and got my limit of 4 salmon, 1-2 legal-size ling, my halibut and one good rock cod... I'd one one very happy puppy, and say, "Man did you ever earn this tip...Thanks!"

I also guarantee, not a scrap goes to waste. The testosterone jag for such limits would be very cool. But I eat fish.

Great catch Serengetti (and the rest of you. Some day I'll buy a camera.)

Cheers!
 
A couple from this year. 30.5 and 34 lbs.

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I am not a trophy fisherman per say but a nice spring salmon will put a smile on anyones face;)

Nice fish everyone!!! Congrats on your catches:D

"I'm not talkin bout pleasure boatin or day sailin......I'm talkin bout workin for a livin"- Captain Quint
 
One 30lber for me this year but still a great year! I'm still hoping that hog is out there... LOL like porcupine says "I plan to catch a bigger one tomorrow", however in my case Saturday
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