Black box VS bRAIDED LINE???

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Has any one used braided line on one downrigger and steel line on another with the black box hooked to the steel line. If you have did you notice a difference in catches on one downrigger over the other? Or would the box have any influence on the braded comming off the steel line. I have been thinking I would like to try one side braded and other steel. Any thoughts? :D
 
used braided exclusively this past season , i had cable on one side , braid the other at, first , now 100% braid ,powerpro 200..

, our log book indicated no difference in numbers from the cable years , if anything , we had better numbers on braid ,bottom line , once you get use to it , make a few minor adjustments , that we were all use to with cable , you'll never go back , For us , it's less " Blowback " in 200 - 250 , that sold me... my2bits , imo..

fd...;)

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We've switched to braid on all DR's in the Fleet. During the "transition" there were times when cable and braid were fished side by side, without serious differences unless the B.Box connection was not grounded right.

We'll be trying Power Pro this year as well, but the Scotty Dyneema has been rock solid. Less balls on the bottom for sure.

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I have braid (Scotty brand) on one and steel line on the other. In my opinion, there has been no difference in catches on either one. I generally do not fish that deep so blowback is usually not a problem. I have never used a black box on the steel line as I believe the drop back I use (around 30 feet or so) puts the bait / hoochie outside the range of influence that a black box would have. However, I do think that braid is easier to use and when I have to replace the steel line it will be with braid.

Ian
 
Each to their own I guess..

When the braid first hit I was skeptical. But, I loaded it up and gave it a try. (Actually just happened to be on the charter rig I ran a few seasons back, and so I ran with what was there). I realized the obvious advantages, and became a "believer". And it worked fine for several years...

Last year I decided to upgrade the downriggers from Scottys to the Stainless High-Speed Cannons (Saltwater Tournament Series). IMO the Cannons were so much of an improvement they were well worth the investment. I still believe that today - stainless construction, vertical spools take up much less room, a LOT more power which translates to a lot faster retrieve speed, and the luxury of powering down or free-fall.

The Cannons come with a built in "Ion Control System" which in function is pretty much the same as a black box in function. And they came spooled with more stainless wire than I could ever deploy. So, I decided to run them as they came.

Being a commercial troller, I well understand what control of the the electric field around your boat / gear can do in terms of successful fishing. So, it wasn't much of a leap for me to return to that in the recreational fishery. The correct electrical field can and DOES influence fish to orient towards your gear, and as most trollers know, does make a difference in catch rates. I believe this is also the case with running the lighter gear in the sport fishing application.

Running braid completely eliminates the field down below, thus you rely solely upon the presentation itself to entice fish into the bite. Running wire with controlled electrical discharge presents a field below designed to attract fish of varying species by varying the level of field intensity. And it works, as proven by literally hundreds of commercial fishermen over a considerable period of time. Couple that with the right presentation, and you can't help but have a Winner.

Not saying that is the be all - end all. Simply another trick to increase your odds of success. And for myself, I am always looking for any such tricks, and am OK with the understood issues that running wire entails when it brings more fish to the boat.

Old School perhaps, but it works for me. As always, your Mileage May Vary... :D

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Nog
 
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But, one needs to know and remember... that would be "Stainless High-Speed Cannons (Saltwater Tournament Series" MAG 20, he is referring to, which is a completely different beast than the Mag 10 or Mag 15!

I too, will stick with my Mag 20s! :D
 
I used two DR with braided line and one DR with SS for two years. They seemed to perform the same.

Last Aug I switched all my DR to SS and installed a boat grounding system (zinc/aluminum anoids connected to my trim tab with 3/8" SS cable bonding them together and fed to my neg post on one of my batteries). I also made sure my boat wasn't running too hot or cold. I found two problem areas: 1) the port light was wired with the wrong polarity 2) my battery switch was leaching into my fiberglass hull. I reversed the light wires and installed a plastic grounding plate behind the switch which solved my power shedding problem.

Once I installed the grounding system, for the first few weeks I didn't notice too much of a differance, but after a month it seemed that our success rate for catching salmon went up.

I run a BB and adjust it for the species of fish we are targeting.

I loved using braided line, it's easy to tie, I very rarly lost cannon balls, no fingert pokes (like I get from breaks in SS line). The only problem I found was, if you use the Scotty 200+ line there is too much line drag in the water if you are fishing deep. I prefered the 140 lb braided line.

I switched back to SS line because of my grounding system. Using braided line doesn't work with the grounding system I installed. Most guides in our area have grounding systems.

So, if you don't run a black box, then braided line works the same as SS.

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