Another SRKW diet-ribe

John Ingram

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I question the timing of study by a UBC student, and why it was necessary.

It seems like this is just a study to counter Trites study last year, and the timing couldn't be better for department to back up the area closures.

As usually the environmentalists/supporters are crawling over social media calling for salmon fishing to be shut down. Whale watchers are also slamming the study as it has a lot of references to pinnipeds.

Getting tired of this honestly.
 
It's quite a process to get a particular area added to the schedule in the VORRs: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2008-120/

I don't think noise restrictions are in there, neither. Maybe earplugs are the cheapest mitigation management measure.
this is almost impossible to implement, just frustrates me to no end that these people have nothing better to do, and if you were to peel off the layers of the people behind the group id bet you'd find links to radical ENGOs again that really don't want your carbon spewing boats on the water.
 
this is almost impossible to implement, just frustrates me to no end that these people have nothing better to do, and if you were to peel off the layers of the people behind the group id bet you'd find links to radical ENGOs again that really don't want your carbon spewing boats on the water.
YUP
 
I posted population sizes of Northern Residents Killer whales below. If the Northern Resident Population were following the southern trend I would buy the analysis. The fact is I don't think Chinook is the smoking gun. I sometimes feel like people are just looking for a simple answer here. When Trites did his study he mentioned that.

You have to look at these figures and ask yourselves why? If there are no salmon and it's as bad as they say why is this population thriving?

Don't you guys find it odd this intentional left out of this study?

To add no one in saying that Southern Resident Orcas aren't doing that great. What we are saying here is that going around telling the world they are starving in not factual. It does not correlate with the Northern pods that intercept and eat the same fish.

My fear is we are missing something fundamental here, and we are going through a lot of effort with closures etc. which will do nothing. Also the general public is really getting the wrong info. Trites was right. IMHO.




The abundance trend of the northern resident population during 1974-2014 is shown in Figure 1. From the mid 1970s to mid 1990s, the population grew steadily at an average mean annual rate of 2.6%, from approximately 122 individuals in 1974 to 218 in 1997. The population then declined by about 7% during 1998-2001, a period that coincided with a significant reduction in the availability of the whales' primary prey, Chinook salmon ( Ford et al. 2010b). Starting in 2002, the growth trend became positive once again, with the population increasing at an average mean rate of 2.9% per year until 2014 (range = -0.4 -8.6% per annum). This represents an average annual mean increase of 2.2% over the 40 year time series. All three northern resident clans experienced growth during 1974-2014, but at different rates (Figure 2). The G clan grew at the greatest average mean rate of 2.9% per annum followed by R clan at 2.1% per annum, and A clan at 1.9% per annum. By contrast, the southern resident population (J clan) has not maintained similar growth over the same time period (Bigg et al. 1976;Ellis et al. 2011;Cogan 2014). With each year of field research, our understanding of the distribution, demographics, behaviour and population trends of northern resident killer whales improves, as does our ability to detect subtle changes in population parameters that may result from anthropogenic threats. On-going photo-identification monitoring will continue to be a key component of recovery efforts focused on the northern resident population and other communities of killer whales that live off the west coast of North America
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I question the timing of study by a UBC student, and why it was necessary.

It seems like this is just a study to counter Trites study last year, and the timing couldn't be better for department to back up the area closures.

As usually the environmentalists/supporters are crawling over social media calling for salmon fishing to be shut down. Whale watchers are also slamming the study as it has a lot of references to pinnipeds.

Getting tired of this honestly.
Wonder who was paying for this study?
 
Ok this is getting ridiculous. If I can live out there and not starve how in the **** can these beasts starve?




Attention journalists !

The reason that this population of orcas are at 75 is because they took 40 whales and put them in swimming pools across the world. Put that in your article. Let's be real. I'd say they are making a comeback and I will also say leave them be to survive and figure it out because they are suvivors and the ocean will not dictate who survives. Only the strong survive.
 
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Ok this is getting ridiculous. If I can live out there and not starve how in the **** can these beasts starve?




Attention journalists !

The reason that this population of orcas are at 75 is because they took 40 whales and put them in swimming pools across the world. Put that in your article. Let's be real. I'd say they are making a comeback and I will also say leave them be to survive and figure it out because they are suvivors and the ocean will not dictate who survives. Only the strong survive.
The Communist broadcasting corporation, also heavily funded Suzuki, they are not hungry, they are very well adapted and intelligent, they are not specialized predators, they are opertunistic generalists, which is why they are thee apex ocean predator, if they were hungry I most assure you, we would see less seals, every educated marine biologists knows this.
 

i have issues with this for an number of reasons, first the Group is not run buy scientists but rather NGOS, second these are just drone footage and neither of the pictures look that much different, and if this one pod is so sick why isn't the other, this suggests, and that's a big if, if they aren't well then some other reason as been introduced, viral, bacterial etc. Ives stated this as a fact, these are the ocean apex predator, outside of humans nothing preys on them, they became this by a highly evolved and adaptable intelligence, like a human if a primary food become scarce they will adapt their consumption to other food sources of which are plentiful in the straight, seals and other abundant fish for one, they wont simply not eat, this is the big Lie the ENGOs are telling. This is a group based out of Washington state
 
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i did so digging into the group, they are another save all animals from people group, they are actively saving harbor seals as well. Once again these do Gooders are motivated by their own self importance and belief in their higher poupous rather than real ecology conservation and balance. But they will prey on the pubic desire do what appears to be right and manipulate it for their agendas " Assisting animals entangled in marine debris, victims of ship strikes, and stranded or injured animals on or near shore "


 
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