anchoring for hali
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Gypseas
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I've seen them plastic anchorlift thingys after quite a few heavy anchor pulls, the plastic eye bends out shape as well as the nylon washers get weak and slip inside the gadget impeding the proper operation of the anchorlift. I got two ss fender washers and installed them instead of the nylon washers...no problems so far.
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Sea Ranger
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I have a question for the pros on this site who anchor a lot when hali fishing or at any time. Last week when pulling my anchor it became stuck and would not let go. I had the rope attached to the port side and started pulling....nothing so I reved it up a bit more to either pull it free or break the zap strap that was on the anchor but the more I pulled the more the boat went to the port....I had the motor cranked hard to the right but the boat kept going to the left due to the fact I was pulling from that side. I could hear Wolf's message of concern about safety ringing through my head (and others from this site). I didn't like how it turned the boat like that. Right after that the zap strap broke and the anchor started coming up but I'm thinking about using an anchor retrival system that pulls from the center of the stern instead of one side to stop this from happening. My question is.... how many pull their anchors from one side vs from the center stern? A rope with a few floats on it to make sure it stays floating and not get in the prop and tie it off to the rear cleats..... is this a good idea or a bad idea?
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nedarb2
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I also have another question for the pros, and feel sortof dumb for not getting this part [|)]
When your "setting" your anchor, do you just drop it over with all your rope while your at drift, and just wait for it to hit bottom and start dragging along and set into something?
When your "setting" your anchor, do you just drop it over with all your rope while your at drift, and just wait for it to hit bottom and start dragging along and set into something?
Sea Ranger
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Nedarb2 I'm sure theres a few different way to drop the anchor but the way I like to is:quote:Originally posted by nedarb2
I also have another question for the pros, and feel sortof dumb for not getting this part [|)]
When your "setting" your anchor, do you just drop it over with all your rope while your at drift, and just wait for it to hit bottom and start dragging along and set into something?
Figure out which way the tide and or current is going and line yourself up with it so your bow is pointing into the current(Look to see if anyone else is on anchor within sight and point in the same direction). As you let out the anchor slowly back up if there isn't enough tide to keep you moving backwards. As the anchor rope slides out you will be able to see which angle its going out on and keep your bow pointed that way. When your finished letting out your rope you should already be pointed in the direction of the tide and you shouldn't swing in any direction. Mark your location on a GPS to see if your dragging. Maybe someone can add to or improve this method, if so please do as I don't have as much experiance as some on here.
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wolf
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Well my line from the bow is about mid ship tied around my downrigger bracket cause that thing is never going to move 6 bolts and a 1/4 think 6 inch wide alum plate Ibet i could probablly lift the whole boat from it LOL.
As for what you stated sea mabye take a bit wider turn from your rope/ scotsman you got to remember you have to go a bit fast to get that thing off especially if the current is running theres a lot of stretch and bow in that line so it may need more oooomph to get it off.
There is a lot os stretch to 400 to 600 ft of sampson even more with nylon if the zap strap broke it did its job maybe use on a little thinner???? and not so strong if your boat is that light.
As for setting it ill put my boat side ways to the wind and down current so everything is drift in the same direction basically downstream also I can see where the line is going.
Sometimes ill even put it in reverse gear and steer away from the anchor but i have a steering wheel at the back so its really easy for me to let out line and see which way i need to turn as the boat is barely crawling .
Its really something you need to be shown to you nedarb as it would take forever to write all the factors in to anchoring do a search on it there is tons of info from myself ,tailspin, bananas and many more who have done 100 if not 1000 of times dont trust what someone else has done a few times trust the ones that have done it for many many years and trips out.
good luck wolf
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As for what you stated sea mabye take a bit wider turn from your rope/ scotsman you got to remember you have to go a bit fast to get that thing off especially if the current is running theres a lot of stretch and bow in that line so it may need more oooomph to get it off.
There is a lot os stretch to 400 to 600 ft of sampson even more with nylon if the zap strap broke it did its job maybe use on a little thinner???? and not so strong if your boat is that light.
As for setting it ill put my boat side ways to the wind and down current so everything is drift in the same direction basically downstream also I can see where the line is going.
Sometimes ill even put it in reverse gear and steer away from the anchor but i have a steering wheel at the back so its really easy for me to let out line and see which way i need to turn as the boat is barely crawling .
Its really something you need to be shown to you nedarb as it would take forever to write all the factors in to anchoring do a search on it there is tons of info from myself ,tailspin, bananas and many more who have done 100 if not 1000 of times dont trust what someone else has done a few times trust the ones that have done it for many many years and trips out.
good luck wolf
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When I have anchored I never just drop the works over, slowly let the anchor ,chain and rope down till it hits bottom , try and stay put and then play out the rope as you drift and it will uaually set. Let all out at once and you could get a tangle and short rope and no set. just my way works for me, and always use a scots man between boat and anchor and a good lenth of rope to boat from scotsman. Also don't be short on the chain ,it helps set the anchor and makes it lay flat.
SerengetiGuide
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What type of anchor would you guys suggest is easiest to get off bottom...had someone tell me one is a milllionnnn times better than the other, but I can't recall which one it was. Thanks!
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SerengetiGuide
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What type of anchor would you guys suggest is easiest to get off bottom...had someone tell me one is a milllionnnn times better than the other, but I can't recall which one it was. Thanks!
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Stag
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Great Info. I have never anchored before and I will be attempting to anchor for the first time this year in a 19ft whaler. I have a few questions that I have gear wise. How much rope should I purchase? What size rope would you recommend and should I also have chain for the first "x" amount of feet? What size anchor should I be considering? Where can I purchase the release mechanism shown in the video?
Finally, I will be launching out of Victoria Harbour. Where is a safe place to practice setting and retrieving my anchor setup? I want to practice as many scenarios as possible before I take the boat out to Constance. I was thinking Alberts Head area since it seems like the seabed is mainly gravel or sand. (I've never snagged while drifting that area). Thanks in advance!
Finally, I will be launching out of Victoria Harbour. Where is a safe place to practice setting and retrieving my anchor setup? I want to practice as many scenarios as possible before I take the boat out to Constance. I was thinking Alberts Head area since it seems like the seabed is mainly gravel or sand. (I've never snagged while drifting that area). Thanks in advance!
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Stag
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Great Info. I have never anchored before and I will be attempting to anchor for the first time this year in a 19ft whaler. I have a few questions that I have gear wise. How much rope should I purchase? What size rope would you recommend and should I also have chain for the first "x" amount of feet? What size anchor should I be considering? Where can I purchase the release mechanism shown in the video?
Finally, I will be launching out of Victoria Harbour. Where is a safe place to practice setting and retrieving my anchor setup? I want to practice as many scenarios as possible before I take the boat out to Constance. I was thinking Alberts Head area since it seems like the seabed is mainly gravel or sand. (I've never snagged while drifting that area). Thanks in advance!
Finally, I will be launching out of Victoria Harbour. Where is a safe place to practice setting and retrieving my anchor setup? I want to practice as many scenarios as possible before I take the boat out to Constance. I was thinking Alberts Head area since it seems like the seabed is mainly gravel or sand. (I've never snagged while drifting that area). Thanks in advance!
Karma-Kazi
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We put a little vasaline on ours every time we go out, it prevents sticking. Better safe then sorry!
Little Hawk
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Nedarb: The guys down at Trotac put 3 (approx.1/4")zap-straps on my setup. Me thinks you could probably just use one big 1/2" jobby. Maybe the top-rods could chime-in on this.
Stag: Go down to Trotac then bend-over and let'em have at you. The set-up they build for you is likely the best around the South Island and if you ask me - for over $500/bucks it damn well better be.
"Some could care less if there's any fish left for our kids!"
Stag: Go down to Trotac then bend-over and let'em have at you. The set-up they build for you is likely the best around the South Island and if you ask me - for over $500/bucks it damn well better be.
"Some could care less if there's any fish left for our kids!"
I tend to use a relatively small strap. It breaks at least 50% of the time when I pull the anchor but it never breaks when I am setting the anchor. My theory is that you want it to break away rather than not break when you are pulling out of a "sticky" area so why use a heavy strap which is tough to break.
Tailspin
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It takes a fair bit of experimenting depending on the size of boat, anchor size etc, and bottom structure. It does suck when you break a tie when you are on the hotspot and start to drag off. I also will use stainless telephone wire to prevent the ties from stretching out when fishing areas of the Race or through a big current. Some ties are quite good and only require one, others are garbage and break easy even when tripled up.
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