All Things COVID-19
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wildmanyeah
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Birdsnest
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The CBC is occasionally surprising me lately.
Fish_whistle_express
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Sadly COVID has hit my household, wife likely contracted it by spending a day in the office doing paper work (she’s a electrician), as office staff tested positive a couple days before my wife. Likely lax mask use indoors. Now I’m on isolation myself for 2 weeks, luckily I’ve had 1 dose of Pfizer.
Be safe out there, symptoms were headache, sore throat, muscle aches.
Be safe out there, symptoms were headache, sore throat, muscle aches.
baddogg
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That's too bad. Numbers were horrible yesterday.
Numbers are going up and variants are becoming a major risk, still facing delays in vaccine delivery but restrictions are somehow easing off. Is this a sign that the BC government’s strategy is slowly shifting towards letting the low risk groups get the disease and develop herd immunity? What has exactly changed from the previous round in where they forced more restrictions?
islandboy
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My understanding of their understanding is once you have the vaccine you may still get a very mild or symptom free case of covid 19. You are 99% safe from ending up in hospital or dying. Thus the chances of spreading it still exist. Once the population has antibodies C19 will be like the flu (killed us off in 1918, but now we only lose a few each year). Vaccines get us to the antibody stage without sacrificing millions of lives.
Now the government needs to gradually return us to normal (?) after we are vaccinated (July?) and before a new variant evades the vaccine. Like tying up a new leader in choppy seas when the bite is on and your partner is reeling in his fish, dicey but doable.
Port Eliza Fishing
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That is not really true. If you have both dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine your chances of having any symptoms of Covid-19 are reduced by 95 % IF you come into contact with it. So far in clinical studies there have been no patients who were vaccinated who were hospitalized or died, but we can expect a small number probably will. In Data from Israel patients vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine also had a 90% reduction in even testing positive for the virus. The evidence is once you are fully vaccinated with Pfizer, and likely Moderna, you are unlikely to even spread it. In Canada the dosing schedules recommended by the manufacturers and the CDC are not being followed, so it is unclear if the same results will be seen, but it is likely your chance of spreading Covid-19 once vaccinated are low. Even with an uptick in numbers, the chances of getting Covid are about 1/8000 per day, so it is very unlikely you will come in contact with it, but obviously not impossible as seen with Fish_whistle.
islandboy
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Is absolutely true of what I understand!!
It might not be right (who really knows), but it is my understanding. The science is far from proven.
What percentage of our population has been fully vaccinated (2 shots)?
The comparison with the data that’s coming out of Israel would only make sense if majority of the population is fully vaccinated. I don’t think BC is even close to that state.
I’m all for opening up the economy if there’s a reasonable public safety protection but this time around, I feel like the increasing number of cases and reduced restrictions by BC government aren’t following the same pattern that we saw last year. Are there other variables that we don’t know much about? Like new treatment options for severe cases?
The comparison with the data that’s coming out of Israel would only make sense if majority of the population is fully vaccinated. I don’t think BC is even close to that state.
I’m all for opening up the economy if there’s a reasonable public safety protection but this time around, I feel like the increasing number of cases and reduced restrictions by BC government aren’t following the same pattern that we saw last year. Are there other variables that we don’t know much about? Like new treatment options for severe cases?
IronNoggin
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Always had reservations about Canada moving the vaccine goalposts...
"A population-level experiment.
That’s a quote. It’s what Canada’s top scientist called the Trudeau government’s decision to move your second vaccine dose back by months.
“It amounts right now to a basically population-level experiment,” said Mona Nemer, CM CQ FRSC, whose formal title is Chief Science Advisor to the Government of Canada.
She was picked for the role by Justin Trudeau himself.
And Nemer says pushing back the second dose of COVID-19 vaccines is an “experiment.” On you."
ottawasun.com
Hmmmmmm.....
Moving second vaccine dose back months an experiment on Canadian lives
"A population-level experiment.
That’s a quote. It’s what Canada’s top scientist called the Trudeau government’s decision to move your second vaccine dose back by months.
“It amounts right now to a basically population-level experiment,” said Mona Nemer, CM CQ FRSC, whose formal title is Chief Science Advisor to the Government of Canada.
She was picked for the role by Justin Trudeau himself.
And Nemer says pushing back the second dose of COVID-19 vaccines is an “experiment.” On you."
KINSELLA: Moving second vaccine dose back months an experiment on Canadian lives
A population-level experiment is what Canada's top scientist calls the Trudeau government's decision to move second vaccines back months.
Hmmmmmm.....
IronNoggin
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Slow Canada: Here’s How Badly We Muffed the Pandemic
The auditor general lays out six ways our Public Health Agency failed its mandate.
Slow Canada: Here’s How Badly We Muffed the Pandemic | The Tyee
The auditor general lays out six ways our Public Health Agency failed its mandate.
Slow Canada: Here’s How Badly We Muffed the Pandemic
The auditor general lays out six ways our Public Health Agency failed its mandate.
Slow Canada: Here’s How Badly We Muffed the Pandemic | The Tyee
The auditor general lays out six ways our Public Health Agency failed its mandate.thetyee.ca
Just so we know all the governments are ****, the previous government started the cuts and the current one never addressed them. Wrong and wrong.
The takeaway is that we need some reinvestment back into this clearly.
walleyes
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Kelly McParland: Time to grow some backbone Canadians
Has the bumbling government response to the pandemic not convinced you that you have to start taking care of yourself and your loved ones?
Kelly McParland: Time to grow some backbone Canadians
Has the bumbling government response to the pandemic not convinced you that you have to start taking care of yourself and your loved ones?
wildmanyeah
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Interesting pickle BC now finds itself in.
SpringVelocity
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Here it comes. The big stick.
IronNoggin
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Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends
Canada's National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI) is recommending provinces pause the use of the AstraZeneca-Oxford COVID-19 vaccine on those under the age of 55 because of safety concerns — guidance most provinces said today that they would follow.
Pippen
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You may want to get out to your favorite restaurant today as it looks like indoor dining is done as of midnight.
COVID-19 restrictions: B.C. temporarily halting indoor dining at restaurants, indoor fitness activities for adults
As COVID-19 cases surge in B.C., the province's top health officials have announced new measures meant to curb the spread of the disease.
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