eaglemaniac
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Ones Gillnets on Tuesday. The second one is for Seiners on Monday. Backwards but different.
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Alberni Sockeye
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bacon
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Cheers,
Jeremy
Big Green Machine
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OK was out yesterday and I think it took most boats I saw longer to limit out, limits were had. I missed my limit by one crazy fish that tangled all my lines before I could get her under control. Regardless, it was a fun morning.
the fog ducker
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fellas
will be hitting the Dunsmuir area(s) at some point this weekend from the Nook ,4:30am , Sunday most likely , any updates , tips ,
after all these Commy openings , email me if ya like ,
see ya all up there , " No Ramming the Ducker " lol..
cheers...FD...
thefogducker@hotmail.com
will be hitting the Dunsmuir area(s) at some point this weekend from the Nook ,4:30am , Sunday most likely , any updates , tips ,
after all these Commy openings , email me if ya like ,
see ya all up there , " No Ramming the Ducker " lol..
cheers...FD...
thefogducker@hotmail.com
the fog ducker
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quicksilver11
Member
The fishing is still great China Creek to Blue Roof(past Nahmint) Depth down to about 65ft.
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salmon9
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Looks like the best run in a long time with estimates towards a million fish. Fished Weds after the commercial opening and had easy limits. Nice to see such a strong run,something like what it used to be many years ago.
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Steely
Guest
July 15 update 900,000 run size new quotas Monday 44,000 seiners and 23000 gills to the harbour , They have netted to the river mouth for springs a few years now since 2006.
SpringFever2359
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went over this morning, launched @ 4:20am in China Creek, fished out by Nahmint,limit for the 3 of us in a few short hrs @ 30,45ft, had a fellow from back east in the boat,he didn't think that we were going to catch anything,heard there were no fish in BC anymore,had him playing a fish in the 1st few minutes of fishing,was laughing his head off in the next few with the double headers,that we should never had got in the boat!,a great morning to say the least with fun had by all, and not many boats where I was...
Olde School
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In a nutshell: lots and lots of fish, enough to be selective about the retained size, and not many boats so ramps are sane.
Take a newbie/wife/child etc and show them the reel West coast.
Saw SpringFever and Fog Ducker out there today, nice boats!
Limited last night and again this a.m. with my 13yo daughter as the crew - quite a firedrill with 2 double headers to sort out LOL anyhow she was great and the boats around gave us some needed space.
She did ask me why FD was named as it was, hmmm, had a chuckle putting it in terms appropriate for a young un
The great news was once at home the years of teaching the other 2 kids how to fillet really paid off since they took care of that while I cleaned the boat up.
Wife has forbidden me to go for sox anymore since the freezer is FULL. She will let me go if I practice C&R.
Yeah RIGHT!
This is the best year for sox that I have ever seen, been in PA since 1972.
Go enjoy it while it lasts.
Smiley.
Take a newbie/wife/child etc and show them the reel West coast.
Saw SpringFever and Fog Ducker out there today, nice boats!
Limited last night and again this a.m. with my 13yo daughter as the crew - quite a firedrill with 2 double headers to sort out LOL anyhow she was great and the boats around gave us some needed space.
She did ask me why FD was named as it was, hmmm, had a chuckle putting it in terms appropriate for a young un
The great news was once at home the years of teaching the other 2 kids how to fillet really paid off since they took care of that while I cleaned the boat up.
Wife has forbidden me to go for sox anymore since the freezer is FULL. She will let me go if I practice C&R.
Yeah RIGHT!
This is the best year for sox that I have ever seen, been in PA since 1972.
Go enjoy it while it lasts.
Smiley.
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acedave3
Guest
Yeah Right Smiley!!!
Its guys like you,with that attitude, that take the smile off of a lot of faces in the lean years.
Its guys like you,with that attitude, that take the smile off of a lot of faces in the lean years.
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bacon
Guest
hmmmmm someone needs to chill out[}
] I fill my freezer every year and don't see the problem with it. I take only what my family can consume and don't waist anything. So if you don't have a report or something positive to say acedave keep it to your self[}]Cheers,
Jeremy
SpringFever2359
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Thanks Smiley,
, I'm sure I saw you also, just not sure which boat,Cheers SF552
TheBigGuy
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This is only the second year this run has returned in decent numbers. Apparently that means all is well, so everybody is loading up to there max allotment and above. FN, Sporties and now the commercial guys are all slaying the socs like there's no tomorrow. Same old story, then in a couple years everybody will be crying because there's no socs in the inlet again. I'm not heading back to the inlet anytime soon. It's being so poorly managed that I will fish elsewhere from now on.
Seems like conservation is treated like a dirty word in area 23.
Seems like conservation is treated like a dirty word in area 23.
the fog ducker
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lol Smiley , cheers,,
thinkin my report probabally don't matter 2 much ,
looked like all boats were having fun , fished Sunday from 6:30 am till 8:30 , first and only time at the nahmint this season , 3 of us hooked well into 30 fish , complete hilarious kaos , guy's had a fricken blast , a easy fun fishery for familly and friends ,
most fish hit between 65 - 85 feet , 2.2mph , 24-28 in leaders , pink with blue head skirts was our weapon of destruction , tandem 4/0 Blacks were also a hot ticket
Get out there , have fun , was not too crowded
did notice a few fish were coloring up a bit
Searun , did not see you , sorry , did not have ur number with me ,next time , Offshore Uki was on ,,,ON !!
Later
FD...
thefogducker@hotmail.com
thinkin my report probabally don't matter 2 much ,
looked like all boats were having fun , fished Sunday from 6:30 am till 8:30 , first and only time at the nahmint this season , 3 of us hooked well into 30 fish , complete hilarious kaos , guy's had a fricken blast , a easy fun fishery for familly and friends ,
most fish hit between 65 - 85 feet , 2.2mph , 24-28 in leaders , pink with blue head skirts was our weapon of destruction , tandem 4/0 Blacks were also a hot ticket
Get out there , have fun , was not too crowded
did notice a few fish were coloring up a bit
Searun , did not see you , sorry , did not have ur number with me ,next time , Offshore Uki was on ,,,ON !!
Later
FD...
thefogducker@hotmail.com
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El Pescador
Guest
I remember 1997 being very similar to 2010, as the sockeye run was strong and it was difficult not to catch one's limit every day. However, mackerel was also plentiful in the inlet and in Barkley Sound due to El Niño weather pattern, and they predated so much on salmon smolts that the run was seriously decimated. This year I have caught a few mackerel as well, so if in addition there is overfishing I would not be surprised if History repeats itself.
IronNoggin
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Government cracking down on roadside salmon sales near Port Alberni
Robert Matas
Vancouver — From Friday's Globe and Mail Published on Thursday, Jul. 15, 2010 9:17PM EDT Last updated on Thursday, Jul. 15, 2010 9:22PM EDT
Tseshaht First Nation Chief Les Sam has seen this before. The federal Fisheries Department has stepped up efforts to close down part of the aboriginal fishery. This year, federal enforcement officers are going after roadside sales of sockeye salmon in and around Port Alberni on Vancouver Island.
“DFO [the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans] always has charges against our people for various things,” Mr. Sam said.
“Throughout our history we have been harassed by DFO and we have been charged. In the eighties, we had 258 charges against us. Then they found it better to negotiate something with us, rather than fight us,” he said Thursday.
“But now we are back fighting again, it seems.”
In a crackdown on illegal roadside sales, the Fisheries Department brought extra staff to Vancouver Island this summer to gather evidence that would support charges in court.
The federal government has not authorized any openings for native commercial fisheries on the Somass River outside Port Alberni, said John Lewis, the department’s chief of conservation and protection for the south coast.
The salmon travel from Barkley Sound through the Alberni Inlet to reach spawning beds on the Somass River.
Authorities so far have found 32 signs on the Tseshaht reserve advertising sale of sockeye, Mr. Lewis said.
Enforcement officers have distributed “information notices” to Tseshaht fisherman, advising them that selling fish caught without a commercial fishing licence is illegal. They are collecting information about those who fish without a commercial licence. An educational campaign has also been launched to discourage the public from buying salmon from unauthorized vendors.
The fisheries office has been inundated with calls from the public expressing concerns over what they believe are illegal sales, Mr. Lewis said.
“We are very understanding and sensitive to their rights under the Constitution and under arrangements and policies we have within the department,” Mr. Lewis said. However, the department has a responsibility to manage the resource properly, he added.
Aggressive enforcement efforts had no visible impact on the native fishermen who continued to catch and sell salmon this week. Mr. Sam said they were fishing according to the first nation’s management plan for salmon that limits fishing to two days a week.
Unlike the past few years, no one this year is raising the possibility that the salmon runs are facing extinction. The sockeye are returning in far greater numbers than federal officials anticipated. The preseason forecast for salmon in Barkley Sound, which head to spawning grounds into three rivers in mid-Vancouver Island, was 600,000 but the current estimate is for 900,000.
About 419,000 sockeye could be caught without affecting the sustainability of the runs, federal officials say. So far, commercial seine and gill fishermen have taken 178,638 sockeye and sport fishermen have caught 42,700.
The Tseshaht and another native community in the area have caught 73,500 for food, social and ceremonial purposes and have not exceeded their allocation. But enforcement officers believe that a portion of those fish are ending up in roadside sales. Federal officials suspect as many 10,000 sockeye may have been sold illegally.
Federal officials and Tseshaht representatives tried to resolve their differences after B.C. Supreme Court last year ruled that natives have a right to sell fish but the number of fish has to be negotiated with the government.
“We have had a very difficult relationship with first nations in Port Alberni for many, many years,” Mr. Lewis said. The Tseshaht and the federal government worked hard to reach an accord but were unable to come to a negotiated agreement, he said. However, fisheries officials are not looking for a direct confrontation with the Tseshaht, he added.
But Mr. Sam said the Tseshaht were willing to reach an agreement, but the federal government wanted to give too large a portion to the commercial fishery.
“We were looking to negotiate some fair, equitable share of the resource that used to be controlled 100 per cent by the Tseshaht,” Mr. Sam said.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...almon-sales-near-port-alberni/article1641783/
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Didn't see any nets and only 2 signs along the road coming back into town last night. Must have missed some development or another...
Nog
Robert Matas
Vancouver — From Friday's Globe and Mail Published on Thursday, Jul. 15, 2010 9:17PM EDT Last updated on Thursday, Jul. 15, 2010 9:22PM EDT
Tseshaht First Nation Chief Les Sam has seen this before. The federal Fisheries Department has stepped up efforts to close down part of the aboriginal fishery. This year, federal enforcement officers are going after roadside sales of sockeye salmon in and around Port Alberni on Vancouver Island.
“DFO [the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans] always has charges against our people for various things,” Mr. Sam said.
“Throughout our history we have been harassed by DFO and we have been charged. In the eighties, we had 258 charges against us. Then they found it better to negotiate something with us, rather than fight us,” he said Thursday.
“But now we are back fighting again, it seems.”
In a crackdown on illegal roadside sales, the Fisheries Department brought extra staff to Vancouver Island this summer to gather evidence that would support charges in court.
The federal government has not authorized any openings for native commercial fisheries on the Somass River outside Port Alberni, said John Lewis, the department’s chief of conservation and protection for the south coast.
The salmon travel from Barkley Sound through the Alberni Inlet to reach spawning beds on the Somass River.
Authorities so far have found 32 signs on the Tseshaht reserve advertising sale of sockeye, Mr. Lewis said.
Enforcement officers have distributed “information notices” to Tseshaht fisherman, advising them that selling fish caught without a commercial fishing licence is illegal. They are collecting information about those who fish without a commercial licence. An educational campaign has also been launched to discourage the public from buying salmon from unauthorized vendors.
The fisheries office has been inundated with calls from the public expressing concerns over what they believe are illegal sales, Mr. Lewis said.
“We are very understanding and sensitive to their rights under the Constitution and under arrangements and policies we have within the department,” Mr. Lewis said. However, the department has a responsibility to manage the resource properly, he added.
Aggressive enforcement efforts had no visible impact on the native fishermen who continued to catch and sell salmon this week. Mr. Sam said they were fishing according to the first nation’s management plan for salmon that limits fishing to two days a week.
Unlike the past few years, no one this year is raising the possibility that the salmon runs are facing extinction. The sockeye are returning in far greater numbers than federal officials anticipated. The preseason forecast for salmon in Barkley Sound, which head to spawning grounds into three rivers in mid-Vancouver Island, was 600,000 but the current estimate is for 900,000.
About 419,000 sockeye could be caught without affecting the sustainability of the runs, federal officials say. So far, commercial seine and gill fishermen have taken 178,638 sockeye and sport fishermen have caught 42,700.
The Tseshaht and another native community in the area have caught 73,500 for food, social and ceremonial purposes and have not exceeded their allocation. But enforcement officers believe that a portion of those fish are ending up in roadside sales. Federal officials suspect as many 10,000 sockeye may have been sold illegally.
Federal officials and Tseshaht representatives tried to resolve their differences after B.C. Supreme Court last year ruled that natives have a right to sell fish but the number of fish has to be negotiated with the government.
“We have had a very difficult relationship with first nations in Port Alberni for many, many years,” Mr. Lewis said. The Tseshaht and the federal government worked hard to reach an accord but were unable to come to a negotiated agreement, he said. However, fisheries officials are not looking for a direct confrontation with the Tseshaht, he added.
But Mr. Sam said the Tseshaht were willing to reach an agreement, but the federal government wanted to give too large a portion to the commercial fishery.
“We were looking to negotiate some fair, equitable share of the resource that used to be controlled 100 per cent by the Tseshaht,” Mr. Sam said.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...almon-sales-near-port-alberni/article1641783/
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Didn't see any nets and only 2 signs along the road coming back into town last night. Must have missed some development or another...
Nog
Fisherboy12
Member
Hows the sockeye fishing over there lately?
