Englishman
Well-Known Member
Roland like Wolf says it may appear dead but remember fish don't bite all day. It is quiet everywhere for more hours in a day then it is hot with an insane bite going on. That crazy bite may last 15 minutes or 90 minutes and then its like the tap got shut off and its over. The rest of the time its one here and one there. The point is you need to be in the right area at the right time when it goes crazy. You can only be there consistently when it happens by not wandering off into the ozone all the time. Yes it may be boring going back and forth over the same water waiting for it. At least Otter offers a longer tack than places like the lighthouse or Possession where you go round and round more often while you wait. But its the price you pay for getting into lots of fish. I'm still choked that the prime part of the lighthouse is still closed because I now have to fish the big crowds while I wait and often can't get to specific spots when I want to because I'm blocked out. It surprises me that when a bite comes on and fish are being caught in a specific spot that many people troll through and then keep going if they don't hook up. Instead of shortening their tack and circling back to get back into line for another quick pass through.
Thx Pro,
Lots of good points. On Friday I was in the Trap for four hours (6:30am-10:30am). I was doing the loops along with everyone else and not wandering aimlessly as Wolf accused me of. During that time I saw one fish caught out of 57 boats (not counting pinks) and so yes, I am afraid I decided nothing was going to happen and then went back to Possession. Again not aimless! Unfortunately we stayed inside Secretary, trolling past the point and part way across the harbour mouth before doing it all over again. However that was the wrong location too, as it turned out the fish were all in the tide race off Secretary, as indicated by Original’s post above. Who knew??! Well Original and his crew did, and you and Wolf would have known where to be as well. Which is my point; you and the experts know which location to be in at a given stage of tide and current. For me it is random but only in the sense I just pick the Trap, or Possession or Muir and rarely Otter, without a particular reason. Occasionally, I am in the right place, but lots of times not. And Friday was a classic in that last respect. It is all about location, location, location.
Location for sure is very important for the conditions/tide/current etc.. but lot's and lot's of other factors come into play with constantly getting hook ups. You might be pleasantly surprised how some more experienced locals may be open to sharing more info/advice with you if you spend some time with them, message them directly, book a trip with them, etc..
Certain baits, gear, fish better at certain times/conditions, contours play a huge part with tide/current conditions with regards to where/when bait will be in those areas for feeding fish to target and spend time in, bait doesn't act/fish the same just thrown into a teaser head, hook placement, hook size, bait bend, cure/scent, etc all play important rolls too, leader length with regard to what kind of bait or lure etc you are using plays a roll as well, so many little things all come into play it's not just location. But timing of a location in relation to lot's of other factors is very important.. Make friends with local knowledge and spread kindness in return will often be good for everyone. Time, experience and patience are the best teachers but help from others can speed some of that up as well.
Thx Chasin,
Some good advice. However, I am aware of all the other variables you raise with regard to chinook fishing and no doubt I still have thing to learn in that respect. However, Friday’s report had nothing to do with any shortcomings I may have in the presentation department, because if it were, lots of others in the Trap would have had fish. As my report said I saw one chinook caught in four hours. The fish were simply not there. You can possess all the presentation skills in the world but you cannot catch fish that are not there. It is all ultimately about location, location, location…..Get that right and you can practice the rest of the list you wrote about…..
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