As weird as the roll looks, I've been killing myself trying to copy the damn thing... I've even been shown how to do it once but he waited until I was in a ummmmmmm state of mind till he did... Bugger thinks it's funny every time I put my bait down now! Mamma, I think our perfect rolls work just fine! Lets get out there again soon and have some more laughs before the big ones leave! It's sure gonna be nice to hook up on the biggie on wolfs boat instead of mine for once! lol