Two New/Old Developments in Salmon/Halibut Lures

[Dogbreath]

As always everything old is new again and the two lures as pictured have their roots in old ideas.

The Daisy Chain comes out of the warm water Tuna fishery as does the Dredge-I first saw the Daisy Chain (of a type there are a number of variations) in action up in QCI in the very early 90's, the Dredge has been taking off in California and Alaska for a few years now.

Great Lakes style Daisy Chain

Dredge

Not the greatest pics of the Dredges but you get the idea.Anything can be used as a chase bait and Yes you can buy the Raw Bars to assemble your own just like you can easily make a Daisy Chain as per the first pic.

I know</u> someone is just to jump on the keyboard and say

"But it'll just tangle"-it doesn't.

"But the fish will just crash the lures and miss that back one with the hook"-they don't they go for the trailing bait-the chase bait.

 

[Dogbreath]

Running a Kone Zone in-line flasher in front of the dredge adds even more 'juice'. [8D]

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Would like to watch the Dredge with an underwater camera fishing for sockeye! ..........BB

 

[scott craven]

That dredge looks cool, you could use needlefish squirts
and have a pretty effective looking school...
is only the trail unit hooked ?

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Belive it is against the law to be able to catch more then one (1) fish at a time on a line[8]............BB

 

[nedarb2]

quote:Originally posted by Barnacle Bill

Belive it is against the law to be able to catch more then one (1) fish at a time on a line[8]............BB

only the hootchie at the back is rigged up,the rest are just an attractant

 

[Dogbreath]

quote:Originally posted by r.s craven
is only the trail unit hooked ?

Yes the rear unit (usually a different colour or size or both) has a hook and is rigged on a leader anywhere from 18" to 4' back.

If I find time and the right lighting tomorrow I'll take a few pics of the dredges I rigged myself along with some of the chasebaits.

quote:Originally posted by Barnacle Bill
it is against the law to be able to catch more then one (1) fish at a time on a line...

It's against the law to use anything designed to catch more than one fish at a time-these rigs use one (1) hook.

I'm not a crook Bill, not a perfect human being but never</u> a poacher.

 

[nedarb2]

also, they are more commonly known as spreader bars

(not to be confused with the other west coast halibut gear )


Dredges are a "3D" version of these

edit: sorry didnt see yours were "3d" haha.. just for other people information then

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Hey guys I was just answering R.S. Craven ! Not calling anyone a "Crook", nor a poacher.. I guess I should of been more exact in my response about how many hooks are allowed[:I]......BB

 

[Dogbreath]

Some pics of the units I assembled myself-a testament to how tough it it is to make this things appear correctly in one dimension with poor lighting.

Needlefish Spreader Bar

Hootchie Details, these were some discontinued models that were on sale, note glo stripe-very important IMO.

Rigging Details

Attaching The Chase Bait

Chasebait w/Needlefish Hootchie

Purple Haze/Glo Larger Size Bar

Purple Haze/Glo Hootchie Details

Chasebaits of Various Types

EDIT</u>-I forgot to take a pic of the small weight that's on the end of each 'wing' about 4 grams of lead or what have you to stop things flopping around.

Each wing is 80# mono the main line is 150# to make things run straight but the leaders for the chasebaits are a standard 40#, partially to impart a standard action to the lures and partially to break if a big Halibut grabs the thing-they are expensive rigs and I'd hate to lose one to a bad tempered slab.

 

[Whole in the Water]

Dogbreath, were can someone buy some of these rigs and how much?

I would like to try them out for sockeye. Thanks.

Long live wild salmon!!!
&gt;&lt)))&gt;

 

[Dogbreath]

quote:Originally posted by Whole in the Water
Dogbreath, where can someone buy some of these rigs and how much? I would like to try them out for sockeye. Thanks.

The cheapest way to go is to buy the Raw Bars (as they're called) and rig the thing yourself-as you can see it's not rocket science if I can do it anyone can. [)]

Rick @ Best of Big Game is great to deal/answers questions promptly and knows to ship USPS to Canada if asked.

http://bestofbiggame.com/RawBars.html

 

[Degree of Freedom]

seriously!??

it's not that hard to catch a fish...

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Has anyone on this site used it? And if so, how were the results?...........BB

 

[Dogbreath]

quote:Originally posted by Barnacle Bill

Has anyone on this site used it? And if so, how were the results?...........BB

Works like a hot damn-why else would I post it?

 

[Cuba Libre]

Each to his own, I guess as long as limits are not exceeded... But I agree

quote:seriously!??

it's not that hard to catch a fish...

Its equivalent to using a 6 ft ford fender in freshwater. yes-- it catches fish-- but not for me...............[xx(]

20ft Alumaweld Intruder

 

[Dogbreath]

quote:Originally posted by Cuba Libre
Its equivalent to using a 6 ft ford fender in freshwater......

Not even close, in fact using a standard 18" leader the needlefish rig is 5' long, shorter than a standard Flasher/Anchovy rig.

It's also lighter/has much less drag, I just went next door to use the neighbour's kitchen scale.

Full sized rotary flasher alone no lure attached = 110 grams.

Needlefish rig w/chasebait = 60 grams. [8D]

 

[-smtw]

I would agree with Mr. Breath on this.... if these rigs are fished solo, be more fish on to fight than a flasher setup. Lots of "stuff" on your line, but not too much displacement.

 

[Peahead]

Hey Carl didn't we try one of those rigs last August fishing with Jeff ? As I recall we gave it a short soak but not much luck ....but not sure ????

 

[porcupine]

We fished those rigs back east last summer for stripers and bluefish. They are called umbrella rigs on the east coast. A Baitrix in a Rhys Davis teaser worked very well as the trailing lure.