Thoughts on Crucifish Dummy Flasher with Scotty Line Clip

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I want to fish without flashers on my main line.

I've got the Nakusp highschool three-flasher dummy set and it works OK in terms of connecting to the downrigger ball and dragging through the water but having to use a separate line release clip setup puts the lure a long way away from the dummy flasher.

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I tried last fall using the Scotty dummy flasher rig but the distance from the clip to the flasher was long and I somehow managed to get epic tangles with my mainline. Probably operator error but it was extremely frustrating nonetheless

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This brings me to the Coast Karma Crucifish dummy flasher which includes the Scotty line release clip. I've searched on here and there was one brief thread without much first-hand experience. Does anybody use these? Do they work OK?

I see they started with a stainless version and now offer a plastic version at a lower cost ($130 vs $90)

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[Whole in the Water]

Looks interesting, wonder how much increased drag it has over just 1 regular flasher or 1 dummy in-line flasher off the cannonball?

Ya wouldn't lose you cannonball with that attached - ouch $$$

 

[eroyd]

I use ~7' of 80# mono with good swivels on both lines clipped directly onto my ball. Standard single flasher. Fishing line clipped about 4' above with lure above or above and just behind the flasher. I have a narrow boat and rarely tangle when I turn too sharp when letting down the gear. Always have a extra set up for a quick hack and change in case of a mess.

 

[Pineapple Express]

I use ~7' of 80# mono with good swivels on both lines clipped directly onto my ball. Standard single flasher. Fishing line clipped about 4' above with lure above or above and just behind the flasher. I have a narrow boat and rarely tangle when I turn too sharp when letting down the gear. Always have a extra set up for a quick hack and change in case of a mess.

Thanks for the reply, I do appreciate the info about how to rig a single dummy flasher. The Scotty kit seemed longer than 7ft. Maybe I let my gear down too quickly?!

I am still looking for first-hand experience with the Crucifish product specifically.

 

[ILHG]

I have had good luck with the Kone Zone flasher. You should look at them

 

[Samnjoe]

I often run a Konezone with a #7 wonder spoon on one side when offshore.
Deadly!

 

[kaelc]

I stick to Canadian made dummy flashers. I just run them about 6 feet behind the cannon ball on 80 or 60lb test, then drop it below the surface add the Scotty quick release at the dr pulley and drop. PNT has some reasonably priced stainless staps, that look just as good as the Scotty ones without a big markup.

 

[Rain City]

Kone zones got too expensive so now I break them in two and get twice my money's worth.

 

[advTHXance]

Had a good friend and coworker that sadly passed last year, and he swore by the crucifish. As far as I know he had some of the early prototypes, he told me a friend of his makes them. He was a great guide, a skilled fisherman, and a good person, and most importantly he didnt fish crap gear haha! So if he said they worked, they probably work!

 

[Samnjoe]

Having the clip and gear 4' above the dummy is not an issue. Can a guy order a Crucifish online. I will give one a try.

 

[Alison2]

I bought a crucifish from Jeff at WCFT last year (it’s on his web site). Used it lots a love it! I attach it to the solid part of the large snap swivel above the snubber. Bringing in a fish with no flasher is sweet. If fishing is slow I still use it but just throw on the regular flasher/lure attached to the crucifish Scotty clip. It’s worth the $90 from my testing so far.

 

[Pineapple Express]

I stick to Canadian made dummy flashers. I just run them about 6 feet behind the cannon ball on 80 or 60lb test, then drop it below the surface add the Scotty quick release at the dr pulley and drop. PNT has some reasonably priced stainless staps, that look just as good as the Scotty ones without a big markup.

Not following you on the Canadian-made part. Can you elaborate?

The Crucifish website says Canadian-designed & assembled. I assume some of the components are made offshore. The company seems to be based on Vancouver Island. Are there "normal" flashers that are made entirely in Canada?

 

[Rain City]

I hate the name choice, but any of those Gibbs "in-line" flashers work pretty good enough for a dummy if you're worried about snagging as well. I like to keep my dummies short (3 feet) with my line clip set at 3 feet above that. With a 48" clip you're now talking about upwards of 6-7 feet of separtion between your gear. I clip my tackle as tight as 2 feet back from the dummy and never have issues with tangling. With any dummy or stacking setup, it's tension on you gear as you drop that keeps things in order. Letting a giant arc of line form is what makes most people snag or think they're turning too hard. Once it's there and has drag on it, it's tough to crank enough to get it out without feeling like you're going to pop the clip. Keep your fishing line angle parallel to your rigger line angle and you'll be A-OK.

 

[kaelc]

Not following you on the Canadian-made part. Can you elaborate?

The Crucifish website says Canadian-designed & assembled. I assume some of the components are made offshore. The company seems to be based on Vancouver Island. Are there "normal" flashers that are made entirely in Canada?

Sorry head cold, I do have lots of old flashers including a Peetz made in Canada, but you are right many of my newer ones are probably made in China sold by a Canadian company. Great to know Crucifish is an island company. KonaZone is OR.

 

[Squire]

I hate the name choice, but any of those Gibbs "in-line" flashers work pretty good enough for a dummy if you're worried about snagging as well. I like to keep my dummies short (3 feet) with my line clip set at 3 feet above that. With a 48" clip you're now talking about upwards of 6-7 feet of separtion between your gear. I clip my tackle as tight as 2 feet back from the dummy and never have issues with tangling. With any dummy or stacking setup, it's tension on you gear as you drop that keeps things in order. Letting a giant arc of line form is what makes most people snag or think they're turning too hard. Once it's there and has drag on it, it's tough to crank enough to get it out without feeling like you're going to pop the clip. Keep your fishing line angle parallel to your rigger line angle and you'll be A-OK.

I bought four of the Konezone dummy flashers several years ago at a Sunday boat show clearance price and still haven’t tried them. I trimmed a couple of them down to the two biggest blades this winter with the intent to give them a go this season. I plan to hook it up to the loop on the fin of the cannonball. I also plan to use it with the down rigger clip that attaches to a swivel below a stopper on the tuna cord that keeps it within a foot of the cannonball. I figure with the shorter flasher rig and tension on the clip while lowering the gear I can avoid tangles and still keep the spoon fairly close to the attraction.
Anything I may regret with trying this set-up?

 

[Rain City]

I bought four of the Konezone dummy flashers several years ago at a Sunday boat show clearance price and still haven’t tried them. I trimmed a couple of them down to the two biggest blades this winter with the intent to give them a go this season. I plan to hook it up to the loop on the fin of the cannonball. I also plan to use it with the down rigger clip that attaches to a swivel below a stopper on the tuna cord that keeps it within a foot of the cannonball. I figure with the shorter flasher rig and tension on the clip while lowering the gear I can avoid tangles and still keep the spoon fairly close to the attraction.
Anything I may regret with trying this set-up?

Nope. That's how I run em.