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Camping out at ( Cal woods park if I remember correctly ) beside the grease hole. Drinking beers in the log cabin pub. Fishing the graveyard / hotel /cribbing / grease hole / mouth of the Nicola etc was the best of times. It was truly special catching giant sized steelhead. My biggest fish was an estimated 20 pd buck at the cribbing run on a spoon. It hit like a freight train and fought like a raped ape. Many fond memories. Still can’t believe it’s gone.
 
I remember the first trip i ever took to the Thompson river and being young had heard that the river was a little slick to wade ;) Well of course paying no heed to what was said decided I would wade the tail out of the Grease hole( named correctly of course) in my miner waders no belt... lol my buddies should have filmed it :) :) Next trip I had a pair of cleats :)
 
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Out working in the yard today and that fall smell was in the air and my first thought was Thompson River :confused: :)
 
19 steelhead?….I’ve been watching the Albion counts…..I got so tired of seeing the zeros I stopped checking a few weeks ago…..

Meanwhile, I see the same writing on the same wall for the Skeena.

I’ve fished the Skeena system every year since 1976. The only year I missed was Covid.

I went up there this year and had a first-time experience for me: I got skunked. Never saw a fish. Never hooked a fish…biological desert, at least where I was fishing. One beat up coho for 7 days hard fishing

So what is the same writing on the same wall that killed the THomson steelhead I refer to?

A completely oblivious uncaring DFO office in Rupert that doesn’t even attempt to make the FN in-river gill-netters report the steelhead bycatch in their nets from chasing sockeye. It’s the wild Wild West with the in-river gill nets in the Skeena, just like the FN drift nets in the Fraser. The DFO gives them a complete white-card to cork off the Fraser with their nets right in the peak of the THompson steelhead migration window. All that for a beat-up chum

And the whole Food, Sustenance and Ceremonial concept is being blatantly abused. The “C” for ceremonial is now a “C” for commerce.
The FN don’t even make an attempt to hide it anymore because DFO turns a complete blind eye….there is ZERO compliance and ZERO effort to even make an attempt to control the commerce part which of course gives the FN all the incentive to use bigger boats, more nets, and more effort during the sockeye returns which of course occur smack-dab in the middle of the July/August/September steelhead returns

Stay tuned for the gurgling sound as the Skeena steelhead runs swirl down the same drain as the THompson steelhead, compliments of your DFO
 
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DFO has made some attempts in the past to curb FN and have had their knuckles rapped pretty severely by our left leaning court system. Because of this, it appears they have given up. The pendulum has not finished swinging, stay tuned for more bad news.
 
DFO has made some attempts in the past to curb FN and have had their knuckles rapped pretty severely by our left leaning court system. Because of this, it appears they have given up. The pendulum has not finished swinging, stay tuned for more bad news.

I’m on the outside looking in but I can gather that a lot of DFO’s actions with regards to FN compliance or non-compliance are driven by marching orders from Ottawa.

One of my customers told me some scary stories of how FSC sockeye deliveries were handled (and abused) this past summer from the salt chuck, harvested by FN seiners etc., delivered to shore facilities then parceled off to outside commercial interests with zero paperwork requirements to DFO

I see the same thing up in Region VI in Skeena country—- sockeye and steelhead harvested for “FSC” purposes, then loaded into totes and sold to tourists and restaurants out of gas station parking lots along Hwy 16

Zero accountability. I suppose if you’re a zealous DFO guy in Rupert who wants to do the right thing and fight the good fight for prudent resource conservation, it wouldn’t take long to realize you’re pissing into a very strong wind blowing in from the East and you might as well just grin and bare it for job security
 
Will continue to be as it just try to rebuilt it's self and then that flood don't help at all... perhaps the trout in the system will suddenly feel the need to stsrt migrating to the ocean.
 

Bob Hooton

November 29 at 4:08 PM ·


Well, well, the airwaves are finally abuzz with the Thompson steelhead saga. To all of those sounding off in the past week, I ask where have you been?
The status of those magnificent, one-of-a-kind fish has been well understood for a long time. The reference period commonly cited by voices of today does not begin to tell the story though. Look up a book readily available on Amazon if you want a more complete accounting of the Thompson steelhead history.
The BC Wildlife Federation has done all that could ever be asked of it with respect to highlighting the Department of Fisheries and Oceans’ denial and coverup of its responsibilities surrounding listing Thompson steelhead as endangered under Canada’s Species at Risk Act. More recently, Watershed Watch has added its voice in that respect. Several media outlets have now climbed on the Thompson steelhead awareness train.
Dare I point out to all the latecomers that every other species of salmon “managed” by DFO is addressed in an exhaustive document called an Integrated Fisheries Management Plan. Its formulation is supposed to involve all stakeholders. The bottom line is forecasts of abundance are made and measures applicable to conservation concerns identified……before a net ever goes in the water. And what do we have for steelhead? An annual, carbon copy 27 day rolling window closure on in river net fisheries all along the lower Fraser (but only downstream from Sawmill Creek which enters just upstream from Yale; there are no such measures anywhere upstream from Sawmill). The closed period represents exactly 1/3 of the steelhead run timing window. Within and outside that time and space we have self-monitoring and self-reporting of steelhead catches. Surprise, surprise, the number has been 0 or nearly so for a decade. Steelhead don’t warrant anything other than that same old, same old 27-day (partial) relief. It doesn’t matter if there’s 19 Thompson bound steelhead (i.e. the estimate for this fall) or 200 times that many, there’s no adjustment to the plan.
The experts of the moment who blame predators, ocean conditions, atmospheric rivers and even what little remains of commercial fishery interception never dare speak of the single greatest factor that screams for attention – the in-river fisheries prosecuted by the dozens of individual First Nations along the Thompson steelhead migration route. Failure to acknowledge and deal with that will never result in anything but extirpation of those fish. Anadromous genes retained by Thompson resident rainbow trout is a pipe dream in terms of any realistic expectation of a steelhead population recovery. And, what about all the other Interior Fraser Steelhead stocks that are in even worse shape than the Thompson? Yes, targeting First Nations’ net fishing is walking on broken glass but ask yourselves how serious we are about conservation?
 
I was struck by the same media phenomenon that Bob H refers to above….all of a sudden a pile of media outlets and NGO’s are clutching their pearls, gushing about the “extirpation” of the Interior Fraser steelhead in general, the THompson River steelhead in particular. The sound of these fish swirling down the drain has been a decade in the making, 100% predictable. Where were they 10 years ago? Did we have to reach zero abundance before anyone took notice?

You have to ask yourself: if the culprit had not been FN in-river rampant gill netting in the Fraser, would the outcome have been any different? The currency of guilt? It seems to retain value like no other means of exchange.

It really is an amazingly powerful phenomenon….first the resources with zero push back from DFO….then Crown unceded land holdings. Someone has to draw a line somewhere.
 
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It was a pretty weak media effort IMO. Very late in the game and unwilling to spill the beans on what is really happening.
 
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