Tapeworms in Salmon

[sockeyefry]

Agent,
Bumps on fish, gotta be those sea lice, any farms about...

What else are you going to blame on Salmon Farms? Rise in teen pregnancy, Dutch elm disease. C'mon I am sure you will be able to link farms to the JFK assasination. Just use your best Michael Moore skills at linking unrelated events to make them seem related, and give it your best shot.

 

[agentaqua]

quote:Originally posted by sockeyefry
Agent, Bumps on fish, gotta be those sea lice, any farms about...

What else are you going to blame on Salmon Farms? Rise in teen pregnancy, Dutch elm disease. C'mon I am sure you will be able to link farms to the JFK assasination. Just use your best Michael Moore skills at linking unrelated events to make them seem related, and give it your best shot.

Sockeyefry, welcome back - I missed you. Away on a secluded paid vacation on some lonely fish farm site?

I guess you ignored the comment I made about returning chinooks possibly being the carrier, as well as the posting about the tapeworms from the farms in Chile.

You're not getting old enough to need glasses, yet?

PS - I think I saw both bigfoot and Elvis at a fish farm site...

 

[adrianna3]

Hey AgentAqua and SockeyFry; Are you two married? You argue like my parents.

 

[Nimo]

quote:Originally posted by adrianna3

Hey AgentAqua and SockeyFry; Are you two married? You argue like my parents.

Yes and Sockeye's even worried about the pregnant teens. Of course, what with all the steriods, PCBs, and antibiotics going into those farmed fish they shouldn't have to worry about pregnancy or transmitted diseases (well, the diseases remain a problem.) Till death of the FFFFs do they part.

 

[wolf]

You know this is a informative site and yet there are some on this forum that have to stir the pot and start slaging people.

YES sockeyfry I am talking about you why do you have to do that!!!!! this was a cool disscussion about the good ol parisite did we mention YOU, NO but you have to stir the s*@t pot.

Ill say sorry to you now as I do not want to offend you in anyway but and old quote "if you dont have anything nice to say than dont say it".

Go start another post asking for a debate on your fishfarms or whatever else you want to debate about but PLEASE stop.
I know people are getting really tired of it.

Thank you and have a good day!!!!!!!!

Wolf

 

[sockeyefry]

Listen wolf,
When people stop posting BS, and blaming all the worlds woes on a few fish farms then I'll stop. Guess you missed the other thread where I was told to eff off.

 

[Nimo]

I agree with Wolf, no need to hijack every thread on fish farms, awefully tempting though.

Does anyone (on here) ever worry about worms in halibut or cod? I've always known that they were there but chose to ignore them and figured they just add to the protein. Beyond ensuring your fish is thoroughly cooked, should we be concerned?

And this is a very informative site.

 

[wolf]

OK im listening are you ?????is there any mention of you on this post uuuuummmmmm NO not once why turn it into always about YOU, If someone told you on a PREVIOUS post to f off I never saw it but do you have to bring up past things, you are starting to sound like a woman!!!(again sorry if I have offended you.

If you dont like it here on the SPORTFISHING B.C. forum then why are you here????????

This forum is for information NOT to blast everyone on every topic discussed???? you seem to like to debate but enough is enough why kick a dead horse.

As for BS well uuummmm (no comment)

Again sorry if your offended in any way maybe we should go and meet for a coffee and dissuss this further???

Good luck Wolf

 

[Sushihunter]

Interesting discussion on fish parasites.

I have a question about something I have seen on Coho Salmon:

I first saw this on some fish I caught at Dundas Island in Dixon Entrance in 1995.

The fish look fine except that they have bumps under the skin that feel like BB's inserted under the skin, yet my attemps to dig them out to see what they are are useless - there is nothing in there to dig out! No solid object, no pus or fluid filled sac - nothing.

The flesh of the fish looks fine, no sign of being malnurished or infected in any way. People have told me that there is no danger from this, it only affects the fish. I assume that it is contagious amongst fish, becuase I usually catch such fish in bunches in the same area, at the same time, within a few days.

I have since caught a few of these Coho in the Nootka area, but only a few - haven't seen one in a couple of years now.

Anyone know what this is?


Last couple of years, I have noticed the odd tapeworm in the gut of Chinook Salmon I have been cleaning. Never great bunches, just one or two per fish.

 

[alley cat]

Have to agree Wolf , following the postings when information from both sides was given and debated was a worthwhile excercise , but when one starts stooping to sarcasm it is a sign of lack of maturity , in my many years of experience , most especially at the bargaining tables the most effective way of dealing with unacceptable behavior is to just plainly ignore the source until such time as relevancy and logic come back into play ; if it doesn't happen then the person has run the course for information or contribution to a problem solving and can be discarded.

My regards Wolf , take care ;

AL

 

[agentaqua]

quote:I have a question about something I have seen on Coho...they have bumps under the skin that feel like BB's inserted under the skin Anyone know what this is?

Sushihunter, did you see the earlier postings by papg5860 on page 1, where he states: "I caught a coho salmon last year and the outside had bumps all over it, there must have been over 100 of them about 1/8th inch in dia."?

Was it anything like this description? Sounds like it was similar, except on your coho - it had more time for the skin to layer over. It had that injury happen at an earlier stage in it's life.

I believe it could be that the coho got a basting of an external parasite (e.g. early stages of sea lice), and had an immune response that caused the skin to grow over it, and kill it off - leaving the bump. Coho are well known to have that kind of response (see reference below).

Johnson, S.C. and L.J. Albright. 1992. Comparative susceptibility and histopathology of the host response of naïve Atlantic, chinook, and coho salmon to experimental infection with Lepeophtheirus salmonis Copepoda: Caligidae. Dis. Aquat. Org. 14: 179-193.

I'm going to take the advice of alley cat, and ignore sockeyefry's sarcastic and childish comments about this suggestion (which is backed-up by science).

With some stain, and a decent microscope - you could figure it out. Take some samples next time. Preserve it in alcohol, and it'd be interesting to see.

 

[Hoochiebob]

Well, after reading this thread I feel like I've had my brain food for a week!
Agentaqua,your knowledge on this matter is a delight and most welcome on what already is an informative forum.Looking forward to other information you might share with us!
adrianna3,I have also dragged up halibut with external worms at Winter Harbour,although a few had them on their backs as well.Did you find any deformities in the meat underneath? One large worm seemed to have caused a cyst or tumor in the flesh beneath it.Very unappealing.
I think next time I will take pictures to post.
Hooch

 

[VictoriaPaddler]

This parasistic worm discussion is very informative. Thank you all who contribute and sharing the info.

A few years ago, a Korean friend of mine went on a fishing trip. He caught a salmon (not sure what kind)and as soon as it was brought on the boat, he cut it up, slice a piece of meat and ate the salmon flesh on the spot without cooking, or even inspecting it.

He had no ill effects from that experience and thought that BC had the best Salmon Sushi in the world! Lucky him, I think if he read this topic, he'd re-consider!

 

[adrianna3]

HootchieBob; No ill effects from those white little parasites. It was the cleanest halibut meat that I've ever seen. They were more of an oddity, something new to me. They were actually kind of neat. We didn't even notice them until my buddy had one stuck to the back of his hand while we were cleaning them. Like I said some were tiny, and some were quite large, almost 2" long. I've asked guys at Port Renfrew and Bamfield if they've seen them on their fish, but no one down here has.

 

[Charlie]

Kind of interesting thread, but have to ask... Is it true there is a link between fish farms and the JFK assasination?

I've been wondering that for years!

 

[islandboy]

quote:Originally posted by Charlie

Kind of interesting thread, but have to ask... Is it true there is a link between fish farms and the JFK assasination?

I've been wondering that for years!

According to "reliable" sources there is! It is a conspiracy the elite are involved in to keep the rabble (us) fed and quietly accepting their excesses. Outspoken leaders will be dealt with! [)]

 

[agentaqua]

I'm hoping that all this talk about parasites is not going to turn people off eating salmon or fish in general. To recap:

1/Most fish remain healthy with miminal loads of parasites. There are exceptions in some areas.
2/ However, it is generally easy to see most parasites in fish - if one looks. Hold the fillet up to the sun (when it exists) or a good light and look through it to see encysted or live worms. This is how professional filleters get rid of worms. Check liver and kidneys for pustules, also.
3/ Ensure you wash your meat and hands (esp. when handling food or things that later go into your mouth), and keep the gut contents & intestines away from your meat when filleting.
4/ Only a few parasites are of concern to us humans. Mostly a tapeworm (Diphyllobothrium spp.) and a roundworm (Anisakis marina). Cooking fish for at least 10 minutes, or freezing fish at 60°C for 60 hours should kill all these beasties.
5/ In the rare event one gets infected by not following these recommendations above - it is generally easy to get rid of parasites using our modern medicine.
6/ Cleaned right and cooked or frozen first - fish is still darn good for you. Lots omega-3s and other healthy stuff. Don't get squeemish just because this is the first time all of this stuff was brought to your attention.

 

[wolf]

Brings a new meaning to fear factor!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
If your that worried better become a vegatarian.

When I went to chef school many many many years ago our training seminars and the videos we saw regarding beef,chicken,fish and like I said earlier pork and if you think processed at a factory is better,well you would be wrong just look at the major recalls from e-coli beef and other recalled meats.

That why for the few of us that hunt game/fish and do it all ourselves it brings a certain pride in knowing where it came from and who did the cutting /fileting to our freezer.

Wolf

 

[bananas]

You went to school Wolfy.Are you sure little fella.

 

[wolf]

LOL never seen you push your plate away from the table with food on it if fact seems to be you keep coming back for more!!!!!!!!!!

Wolf