northshorebb
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Is the Suzuki as smooth as the Yamaha? Is it quieter?
Rayvon
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I've run 9.9 Yamaha's all my life and never had a problem ,but my present boat came with new Suzuki's 200 and 9.9.The 200 is so quiet that I've forgotten to turn it off several times while trolling for hours. The 9.9 EFI tilt remote starts flawlessly and runs great,but I can't say it's quieter than the Yamaha.I don't know why Yamaha hasn't gone to EFI on their 9.9 yet,it sure is nice.
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scott craven
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Doesn't make much sense as every model from the 20 hp and up are EFI
Saxe Point
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I would say they’re basically identical in those respects.
northshorebb
Member
My main is a 90 hp Yamaha, so if I go Yamaha the colours will match haha. But the Merc/Tohatsu/Suzuki with the EFI seems like the way to go. The Yamaha dealer's pitch against the EFI is that the Yamaha 9.9HT is super reliable/smooth, the HT gearcase is excellent and has been around forever.
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northshorebb
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Ya, so it comes down to more reliability/fuel economy with the EFI options out there. But from what I have read the Yamaha 9.9HT is pretty damn reliable too.
MRWood
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That is until your messing with the carb and its jets because they've become gummed up.
northshorebb
Member
Touche. I run ethanol free fuel but I guess that only goes so far.
MRWood
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Don’t get me wrong, I do think Yamaha makes a really good motor, it’s just when I had mine I did have that carb apart quite a few times.
Just a heads up, I’m not sure we’re you’re getting ethanol free fuel from but it’s not available from any regular gas station in BC. That’s been rehashed on here and the consensus is that it is no longer available.
northshorebb
Member
Nanaimo Co-Op on Bowen Road has 91 ethanol free. It's marked so you just have to fill out the form for boat use only.
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
Yeah I hate when gas stations bs people.
N2013
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Saw the same, labelled as ethanol free.
I've spoken with several of the local stations around Mid Island (Co-op, Chevron, Castle). Most of the time with Co-op they just haven't changed the stickers on the pump.
Even if a station tells you that they have Ethanol free fuel, they can no longer guarantee due to transport contamination. No supplier is trucking only ethanol free fuel and none are flushing tanks between deliveries. Maybe some of the specialty suppliers can get E0, but it's not something I'd trust coming from a pump.
Only way to be sure is to buy a kit and test it yourself.
scott craven
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Unless you're buying in a can from a big box, you're getting min 10% ethanol at the pumps.
pescador
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Aren’t the new motors capable of handling ethanol? It’s not like the manufacturers don’t know it’s being widely used everywhere.
Whole in the Water
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My understand is that engines with carbs are prone to gumming up with ethanol fuel so adding fuel stabilizer is a must with engines with carbs now that we can't get ethanol free fuel at the pumps. 
northshorebb
Member
Welp! I've been duped haha.
northshorebb
Member
Back to the kickers, I have been pricing some options out. The below kickers all include electric start, power tilt and 20" leg. I am not sure if the Suzuki would be considered "High Thrust". Hard to find exact weights on the 20" leg, but looks like they are all in the same ball park +- 5-10 lbs. Tohatsu makes the Merc kicker and was around the same price as the Merc with a much smaller dealer network, so better to get the Merc. All in all on paper it seems like the Suzuki takes the cake with EFI, 12A alternator, 5-year warranty and the lowest price but with a few extra pounds.
Yamaha 9.9HT - T9.9LPB (Carburetor)
Motor: $4,100
703 side mount control w/ control cables - $575
Cables in price above
5-year warranty, sometimes they offer a 6-year
Alternator: 6A
Weight: 106 lbs
Total: $4,675 + install + taxes
Mercury ProKicker 9.9HT - ME9.9ELPTCTLK (EFI)
Motor: $4,078
Side Mount Control - $722
Cables: $100
3-year warranty but you can buy the gold plan or whatever for $75 for a couple extra years
Alternator: 12A
Weight: 111 lbs
Total: $4,900 + install + taxes
Suzuki 9.9 - DF9.9BTL (EFI)
Motor: $4,131
Side mount control included in price above
Cables: $100
5-year warranty
Alternator: 12A
Weight: 120 lbs
Total: $4,231 + install + taxes
Yamaha 9.9HT - T9.9LPB (Carburetor)
Motor: $4,100
703 side mount control w/ control cables - $575
Cables in price above
5-year warranty, sometimes they offer a 6-year
Alternator: 6A
Weight: 106 lbs
Total: $4,675 + install + taxes
Mercury ProKicker 9.9HT - ME9.9ELPTCTLK (EFI)
Motor: $4,078
Side Mount Control - $722
Cables: $100
3-year warranty but you can buy the gold plan or whatever for $75 for a couple extra years
Alternator: 12A
Weight: 111 lbs
Total: $4,900 + install + taxes
Suzuki 9.9 - DF9.9BTL (EFI)
Motor: $4,131
Side mount control included in price above
Cables: $100
5-year warranty
Alternator: 12A
Weight: 120 lbs
Total: $4,231 + install + taxes
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