TinnyTime
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Its crossed my mind.
Thatd solve the problem, and I could float more weight... But if there's wet foam, would still need to come out.
A hewes owner told me yesterday he got a pod built and installed on a 180 sportsman for $7k
Super stern heavy Hewescraft, .... and rides terrible !
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Thatd solve the problem, and I could float more weight... But if there's wet foam, would still need to come out.
A hewes owner told me yesterday he got a pod built and installed on a 180 sportsman for $7k
TinnyTime
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I would plan to replace the foam if I tore the old foam out.
TinnyTime
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No sea trial. Crazy covid market, had to make the deal.
kaelc
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You could pod it or just ad a hydrofoil like I did and then you can run it at 30mph and take it to places like swift sure etc.... or not.
brutus
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25 gallons of trap water in the foam??? Would add 200at 40lbs per 5 gallons, I mean how much water can be trapped in the foam??? Maybe I am to lunch but Seems impossible, if it gets in the foam it must get out and down to the bilge area again maybe I am out to lunch but seems crazy that 200-300 hundred pounds of water is trapped in there
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ILHG
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No doubt. But if the battery's are being considered for weight then water log seems possible. I went outside and looked at my boat to try to understand and I can't come up with any major items.
I agree with others on adding a Pod. Beside leveling out the boat it adds so much more, with safety being a main item. It's a worthwhile investment in my mind. My searunner 190 is the little boat that can. I have had that boat in some "challenging conditions" to say the least, & it always gets me home safe. I have over 300hrs on the main traveling in Haida Gwaii and have only ever had 2 days that kept me off the water. Trust me those days were biblical. No doubt you can avoid conditions where a pod is needed....But that's less days on the water and that's not cool.
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ship happens
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Because they all Crack. Hewes, north river, Duckworth, countless others all do that with the 18-21 footers. Fix them all the time.
Foxsea
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The foam they use is entirely unsuited to the application. It may as well be sponges or paper towels. Closed cell foams are a bit more expensive, is all.
TinnyTime
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I would reinstall proper marine closed cell foam
Then keep it dry
brutus
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I will fallow this one, if you do rip out the foam( not sure how much of a job that will be) never been in hewescraft I would love to know the water to foam ratio. I have a few cans of spray foam ( Home Depot) open cell at my shop and will do my own test lol
Pod may be solution but expensive trouble shooting if it doesn't resolve.
Sell the 150 and put a 115 on it, remove one battery?
Maybe remove the kicker and 1 battery just for a sea trial to see if weight is the issue.
But you still want to check out the foam and any other issues.
Other Hewes owners are probably your best to ask.
Sucks you could not sea trial. The past owner must have known. I wouldn't buy without sea trial. If owner won't let you they are hiding something.
Good luck. I feel for you having invested and now dealing with this. You just want to go fishing and enjoy your new boat.
Sell the 150 and put a 115 on it, remove one battery?
Maybe remove the kicker and 1 battery just for a sea trial to see if weight is the issue.
But you still want to check out the foam and any other issues.
Other Hewes owners are probably your best to ask.
Sucks you could not sea trial. The past owner must have known. I wouldn't buy without sea trial. If owner won't let you they are hiding something.
Good luck. I feel for you having invested and now dealing with this. You just want to go fishing and enjoy your new boat.
ship happens
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Cannot rip all the foam out of a hewecraft boat. They pour in expandable foam inside the aluminum beams. **** gets everywhere. Cheap way to accommodate transport Canada's and US regulations. Makes a nightmare for moored boats and welding repairs.
Just pull some floor panels you will see the bones. Plywood decks screwed down. Not hard to do
Just pull some floor panels you will see the bones. Plywood decks screwed down. Not hard to do
Fixit
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I had an old 16ft welded aluminum boat with foam floatation in the floors. it wouldn't get on plane with three guys with the 50 hp outboard.
I pulled up the floors and found foam that seemed wet. like dig into it with a flat blade screwdriver and you got water leeching out.
I pulled out close to 300lbs of foam (and water) and I didn't get the whole boat done either. your best friend will be a recip saw with the pointy end cut off square and a big prybar its back breaking work and the water STIIIIINKS! good luck
I pulled up the floors and found foam that seemed wet. like dig into it with a flat blade screwdriver and you got water leeching out.
I pulled out close to 300lbs of foam (and water) and I didn't get the whole boat done either. your best friend will be a recip saw with the pointy end cut off square and a big prybar its back breaking work and the water STIIIIINKS! good luck
ship happens
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I remember there was a thread in recent past history where I tried explaining foam vs sealed bulkheads. Well I tried at least lol
brutus
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Looks like a 150 hp plus kicker and batteries makes it heavy in the stern, looks like yours sitting at rest
wolf
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Yeah now add a couple of guys playing a fish with a following sea!!! looks dangerous as hell to me!!!!
personally id be lifting up floor boards to see whats going on..
Foxsea
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In that situation you could quickly discover the foam "flotation" doesn't.
I had a similar situation. Had a 60 horse (230lbs) and a 4 hp (60lbs). Boat rode decent.
"Upgraded" to miss piggy, a 400lb 75 hp and a 9.9 100 lbs. It would buck. The hydrofoil fixed that issue. Then went back to the 4hp and from two grp 31s to lithium batteries. Moved the spare down rigger balls to the nose. The more I shifted the weight forward the better it would ride.
You have a lot of weight in the back on a smaller hull. A 115 weighs around 340, a 150 - 480. It's like having an extra person sitting on your outboard the whole time.
"Upgraded" to miss piggy, a 400lb 75 hp and a 9.9 100 lbs. It would buck. The hydrofoil fixed that issue. Then went back to the 4hp and from two grp 31s to lithium batteries. Moved the spare down rigger balls to the nose. The more I shifted the weight forward the better it would ride.
You have a lot of weight in the back on a smaller hull. A 115 weighs around 340, a 150 - 480. It's like having an extra person sitting on your outboard the whole time.
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