Reusing Launch Passes

Fish Assassin

Fish Assassin

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Is it wrong to give your launch pass to the next fisherman or boater? I have done it for years. If it is reusable why not pass it on. I give my pass to the next person or fold it and put it into the credit card slot of the machine.

I asked some older guy packing up his Campion at the Comox Marina yesterday for his ticket and he blew up.WOW.. Telling me how cheap I am and making it publicly known. Thanks to his blow up another kind fellow offered me his.

It's different when the ramp is by donation but when it is city owned and the fee has been paid and it's good till midnight why not reuse it. We are not all rich. It's just one more way to help keep fishing affordable.
 
I've been asked at the launch ramp in Richmond I use. I have a season's pass so I can't help the next guy.
Just a suggestion for you in the future, offer to pay half for it. Seems only fair.
 
Why not really? Unless you have tons of cash to spare this seems pretty fair to me. The Campion guy must not be out there too regularly, because if he was he wouldn't react like that.
 
It's also kinder to give then be an A$$
And beside it's a nice thing to do.
Not all of us have your kind of money:) or I would be buying everyone a launch pass.:)
 
Launch pass sales, aside from being revenue, are an indication of usage and popularity of the facility.
One of our biggest concerns, as trailer boaters, is maintaining the existing launch facilities. I can't see any new ramps being built.
For a "private" operator, running a launch ramp probably makes very little economic sense, especially when you consider how much land has to be tied up for vehicle and trailer parking. More profitable to tear it up and build condo's.
Municipal ramps, although not likely to be development sites, still require funds to operate and maintain. It also gives the local politicians and bureaucrats a good spin if the ramp is revenue positive.
I believe one ramp in Sooke was lost a year or two ago to development(private), there have been postings about the honour pay box in Comox on the ramp north of Comox, and see Tiki's post of yesterday about losing the ramp in Schooner Cove.
Short term gain - no pay: long term pain - no ramp.
I don't mind paying, and would encourage others to do so.
 
The pay box in Comox is at the Point Holmes ramp. I always donate $5 each time I use that ramp. Lots of people don't and that's just wrong.

I am talking about the one at the Comox Marina.

Comox does not offer anywhere for a fisherman to launch for FREE. But there are trails for and paved sidewalks for walkers and dogs. Outdoor courts for hockey and tennis. Skate board parks Etc... Should I go on?

So when a parking spot and launch is paid for that day and is no longer being used why not let someone else use your parking spot.

I will continue to give my paid tickets away to the next user.
 
quote:Originally posted by Time

Launch pass sales, aside from being revenue, are an indication of usage and popularity of the facility.
One of our biggest concerns, as trailer boaters, is maintaining the existing launch facilities. I can't see any new ramps being built.
For a "private" operator, running a launch ramp probably makes very little economic sense, especially when you consider how much land has to be tied up for vehicle and trailer parking. More profitable to tear it up and build condo's.
Municipal ramps, although not likely to be development sites, still require funds to operate and maintain. It also gives the local politicians and bureaucrats a good spin if the ramp is revenue positive.
I believe one ramp in Sooke was lost a year or two ago to development(private), there have been postings about the honour pay box in Comox on the ramp north of Comox, and see Tiki's post of yesterday about losing the ramp in Schooner Cove.
Short term gain - no pay: long term pain - no ramp.
I don't mind paying, and would encourage others to do so.
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Exactly. I have been asked before and usually the guy has a smoke and a beer in his hands. We are losing launch sites all over so buy one less pack of smokes and support rather than mooch.
 
Mooching a launch ramp ticket is just plain cheating the system...no way to justify it. The fee is meant for one boater to use til end of day.......not passed on to multiple boaters. These are the same people that would complain about substandard facilities.
 
It's also dissapointing when when launch fees are $17 and the ramp serves everyone from Chilliwack to Burnaby, then the city takes half the parking to build a restaraunt. The docks are in poor shape and launching and parking are a gong show. Rocky Point, Port Moody.

Having said that, permanent moorage is a lot more expensive!
 
quote:Originally posted by Oggidog

Mooching a launch ramp ticket is just plain cheating the system...no way to justify it. The fee is meant for one boater to use til end of day.......not passed on to multiple boaters. These are the same people that would complain about substandard facilities.
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"...cheating the system..."? Really? Cheating the system at a ramp that's more than twice as much as most other ramps in the area? 4 times the annual membership of those other ramps? I guess 100% of the money goes right back into the ramp maintenance right? They wouldn't just pick an arbitrary number to charge people and throw the revenues into the Town of Comox coffers to pay for whatever they felt like would they?

A ramp inside of a marina behind a breakwater and withing a protected harbour must really takes a pounding! They must then resurface it every couple years, improve that wobbly dock, alter the traffic flow properly so you're not backing over tourists, repaint the parking spaces and repave the lot from time to time right? Funny, the only thing I've noticed as far as significant improvements in the last few years is a fancy new parking pass machine that will take credit cards. What must their priorities be down there I wonder? They must be gearing up for when you have to put your parking on credit 'cause you don't like to carry that much cash with you!

I'm all for user fees where I see them actually applied to what your using. Otherwise I have zero sympathy if people find a way around what seems to be little more than a municipal money-grab.

Handing off to the next guy seems reasonable to me. If you're asking somebody for their stub though I'd offer to pay part otherwise you're being kinda cheap and riding on someone else's dime - the Municipality doesn't know that difference, but you do.

The worst day fishing is better than the best day working...
 
Now get this one.........if you are one of the few who actually lease a slip in the Town of Comox Marina, you do not get access to the launch included with the $100/mo.

Robbins parking runs and monitors the tickets in the vehicle windows, so, you're just paying to park your trailer, no one really gives a hoot if you launch your boat, and the truck/trailer go elsewhere. Another point, Robbins removes the ticket machine in the fall, and does'nt put it back in place until spring, so free use all winter.
 
Perfect, so 0% of the money goes to the ramp and probably not even to the Town of Comox. Just to a private company: Robbin's Parking! Beauty!

The worst day fishing is better than the best day working...
 
GT-- you have nailed it. The most expensive ramp in the area and what do you get?? Tight parking that has already cost me a tail light on the trailer. Congestion when the saling school takes over the WHOLE ramp. A cruddy surface on one side of the ramp that is rougher than the Browns Bay road in January, a single tippy float that is too short at low tide to even handle ONE boat when the tide is low... and expanded metal deck that is like a cheeze shredder when wet , and a Robins Parking employee that keeps ticketing trucks because he is too lazy to look carefully to see if the truck has a annual pass. ( A friend of mine has had three tickets this year even though he has an annual pass)

Sorry-- no sympathy for the Town of Comox-- I would rather pay $5 to the Union Bay mud ramp . So-- that being said-- who wants my daily ramp ticket for $2.00..:D

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wish that was here.. But robbins has the contract May thru Sept. But no real date is set it's up to Robbins. Not the city so the city says.

*****S..[}:)]

Still I will give my paid ticket to the next guy
 
The free launch in Victoria is actually in the municipality of Oak Bay. If it was in Victoria, it would not be free, that's for sure.
 
You're right, Robbin's is probably making enough down there. The parking downtown is so bad I'm sure they rake in $1000's daily ticketing people!

Still: Keep it on the down-low like Striperjack suggests or someone will have a new idea how Oak bay can make more money...

The worst day fishing is better than the best day working...
 
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