I used to use the gammy's but had a few strighten out, then i saw that they had the 3x and 4x strong so i went to those and thought they were awesome. I also tried the Owner's last year and thought they were just as good. I was in a well known tackle shop in Vic. a couple of months ago and grabbed a pack of 1/0 Gammy treble's 3X strong, there was no price on the rack, so jus grabbed them and went to pay, there were over 14 bucks with tax for 5 hooks, i put them back. The Owner's and VMC seem to be a way better deal for just as good or better hook.