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Evinrudes and lots of old engines have depreciated basically to the cost of removing them or doing the next 400 hour maintenance. It’s interesting when you look at a survey what they figure the power is worth. The nice thing about a mechanical Suzuki or Yamaha or Merc they are easy to repower, with another set of mechanical engines from the same brand.
 
Thanks for the input everyone.

What are people opinions on evinrude etecs these days? There has been a couple of boats of interest with etecs on the back. I know they have been discontinued and everything that comes with that. What are peoples current experience with parts and service in the lower mainland. Just wondering if they are still an option to look for in the right package or should be avoided completely
Seems to be a little hit and miss, some people love them however it seems hard to find good people to work on them. Our neighbor at our cabin had problems over and over with his until a year or two ago. Previous mechanic had used silicone gasket maker (maybe because no gaskets were available?) which broke away internally plugging passages causing overheating, then a tooth broke off the flywheel. Living full time on a small island with that level of boat reliability was pretty frustrating for them.
 
IMO stay away from etech,use to be quite a few here and they all gone now, Suzuky and yam are the most prevalent and merc trailing behind. They are not worth a lot of $ anymore, see lots for sale with price drops and people are still staying away
 
I agree, but always interested in hearing first hand experiences. The general recommendation from people has been to go bigger right away if you can
There's a lot to be said for buying the minimum size that works for the majority of your needs. Bigger means harder to: fuel, maintain, tow, store, moor, launch, etc etc. Do not buy for the 1% of the time.
 
I read this 3 times, still not sure what it means?
An evinrude can’t be repowered with a new one and use the same controls guages. Cost and time of switching controls increases the cost of repowering, if you have a 2011 Suzuki mechanical 115 and you repower with a 140 like someone we both know it’s cheaper and relatively quick. My advice is don’t buy evinrude. I feel like some brands older fly by wire, Merc for example are not compatible with their new fly by wire but I could be wrong. Merc changed their DTS system in 2021.
 
An Evinrude is only worth something to their current owner, because they know the engine and are comfortable with it. Lots are super reliable workhorses like the older Gen1 V4/V6 (specifically the V6 - 150hp model) where Bombardier figured out all the problems in the early 2000s and then kept pumping them out for over 10 years.

I bought my boat with a 2019 Etec (G1 V6 135HO) about 2 years ago, and likely overpaid because I didn't negotiate down hard based on the motor (and I really wanted that particular hull). Mentally, I budgeted a full repower in a few years - but honestly its been great - tons of power, fuel efficient, one minor issue easily resolved at Lordship (hell, its actually still under an extended warranty - which Evinrude still honors). The cost/ease of XD-100 easily beats annual oil changes (based on the relatively low hours I put on every year). Parts availability is totally fine. Haruna and Lordship still work on them and supply parts - and if you like to do it all yourself Crowley is like the Rock Auto of boat parts - complete with exploded diagrams for every model.

So where does that leave me? I'll keep the motor and run it till it dies / becomes unreliable, and then re-power - that could be in 1 year or 15 years. If I need to sell the boat, I know I won't get much for the motor - I'm fine with that. I realize its not worth anything to the market, but it provides value to me with 135 horses of reliable/low cost forward propulsion.
 
Etecs are pretty easy to work on, for this amateur mechanic. The diagnostic software is surprisingly good for mid 2000s era, and is a huge step forward compared to the old analog Mercs and OMCs. Parts availability is decent, and there are good online resources if help is needed. They have more torque and less weight than four stroke equivalents, and are very clean running. Not your grandpa's two stroke.

I got my 130 used a couple of months after they announced they were ending production, thought I got a good deal. Now they're almost free. If you're willing to do your own maintenance, and read enough to avoid the troublesome members of the model lineup, you could get reliable power at a considerably undervalued rate.
 
Etecs are pretty easy to work on, for this amateur mechanic. The diagnostic software is surprisingly good for mid 2000s era, and is a huge step forward compared to the old analog Mercs and OMCs. Parts availability is decent, and there are good online resources if help is needed. They have more torque and less weight than four stroke equivalents, and are very clean running. Not your grandpa's two stroke.

I got my 130 used a couple of months after they announced they were ending production, thought I got a good deal. Now they're almost free. If you're willing to do your own maintenance, and read enough to avoid the troublesome members of the model lineup, you could get reliable power at a considerably undervalued rate.
Ya the tork is nice, but ….. a friend has whale watching boat, 2x etech 150, not sure of the year, he brought it up from Quebec, low hrs when purchased, he’s replace the lower gears 2x on each over a 4 year span, he’s got it all apart again because one of them is fried again, good thing it’s a busness and he’s mechanically incline. He says they’ve been nothing but problems
 
Thanks everyone, these are the answers I was expecting. I think I’ll steer clear of etecs unless there was a screaming deal on a nice hull that accounted for a future repower

We are the kings of train derailment! Back to the original post, @Chummer have you looked at a c-dory 22 or 19? They usually have a high top roof 6’4” and cuddy they claim is that long. 60k is tight for a 22 budget but they do come up.
Definitely something I would have a look at if the right one posting came up. To be honest they’ve never been high on my wish list, but that isn’t based on a whole lot since I’ve never been on one. Have you had one?
 
Thanks everyone, these are the answers I was expecting. I think I’ll steer clear of etecs unless there was a screaming deal on a nice hull that accounted for a future repower.
You've done a better job of expressing what I was driving at. The continuity and dealer support of Merc, Yamaha and Suzuki are substantial reasons to stay with them, but you might just see that one deal on a perfect hull powered with Etec that has severely depressed the price of the package. Invest the repower money and run the Etec for a season while you decide how to proceed. They were the number one brand in the world for decades, there's a deep well of knowledge out there, and parts are still being made. Hell, BRP still stock and sell parts for OMC-era outboards, and that company hasn't existed since 2001.
 
Thanks everyone, these are the answers I was expecting. I think I’ll steer clear of etecs unless there was a screaming deal on a nice hull that accounted for a future repower


Definitely something I would have a look at if the right one posting came up. To be honest they’ve never been high on my wish list, but that isn’t based on a whole lot since I’ve never been on one. Have you had one?
I own the 25. It has a bigger beam 8’6” and a bunch of other stuff, but same hull design. Very fuel efficient. Not as fast or as smooth through chop as other boats. Get one with trim tabs and the right power, a 115 or the same block in a 90, is what I recommend for a 22. Here is my 25. Watch to the end and give it a thumbs up if really helps the channel.
 
Cool video, looks like a well set up boat. The lower top end speed potential is one of the knocks against it while I have been looking. If I end up at the marina I want to then it’s a long run out to the fishing grounds. So having something with the potential to go faster when I want it to would be ideal. I know that design is what makes it so fuel efficient though so it’s all trade offs one way or another
 
Cool video, looks like a well set up boat. The lower top end speed potential is one of the knocks against it while I have been looking. If I end up at the marina I want to then it’s a long run out to the fishing grounds. So having something with the potential to go faster when I want it to would be ideal. I know that design is what makes it so fuel efficient though so it’s all trade offs one way or another
Yeah, if someone wants to do 25-30kn all the time or more a BW Conquest or Grady White are better options. Kingfisher's are a good comprimise between comfort and efficiency, some people say they pound but their fuel efficiency and a suspension seat are good trade offs.
 
Appreciate the input, first hand experience is always good. A Grady or whaler would be ideal but the options in my price range are usually not great. There’s an older conquest that’s been for sale on Craigslist for a while but they want more than I’d want to pay with the dreaded etec on the back 🤣

There’s lots of different brands and models out there that will fit the bill. Just a matter of finding it
 
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