Off-shore Crab/Prawn Fishing?

Sushihunter

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I am curious if anyone here has tried dropping Crab or Prawn Traps off the West Coast.

I'm thinking that I would like to try this next year, dropping them in the areas off-shore where we fish for Salmon and Halibut about 10 miles or so off the West Coast.

Are there any Opelio Crab out there?



Jim's Fishing Charters
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Yep, I drop my pots. Some pretty good crabing out there. Go to Mapster, Marine Resources - Local Knowledge, West Coast Van. Isl., Fisheries Inventory, WCVI Crab (not Rec Crab). This link should get you started in the right direction. http://www.canbcdw.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/ows/imf.jsp?site=mapster You'll probably see and look for commerical pots in the shaded portions of the map... I usually do and drop mine in the same area. Hang around a fish for about and hour and be ready to pull up a heavy pot. A good pull is around 20, with most being keepers.

I started grabing offshore a few years back with some REAL good results. The only problem I have is the depth. I don't have a pot puller! It gets old real quick, pulling pots up by hand! :( Now days most of my crab fishing is out of Renfrew in 55/65' & Tofino in 90/110' on my way up and back.

I haven't pulled any King or Opelio, but every now and then something does get in the pots and really thrashes around in there tearing into my bait! Zip the bait from the top, so it hangs in the middle beside a green light also zipped to the top. Use fresh salmon and make sure you... Use good pots! They will rip the doors right off the cheap pots!

Glad to see your back!
Charlie
 
quote:I haven't pulled any King or Opelio, but every now and then something does get in the pots and really thrashes around in there tearing into my bait! Zip the bait from the top, so it hangs in the middle beside a green light also zipped to the top. Use fresh salmon and make sure you... Use good pots! They will rip the doors right off the cheap pots!

Hmmm... could it be Octopus? I've caught some pretty good ones while targeting Halibut and drifted into rocky areas.

Another possiblity would be Otters.

Thanks for the info!

Do you target sandy/muddy areas or rocky/gravel areas? And how deep?

My main concern about crabbing/prawning off=shore is weather, and losing the traps because I can't get back to them if the wind comes up quickly. As it cost $250-$300 to run out there and fish for the day, it would be cheaper for me to abandon the traps and buy new ones [V]

We used to get Tanner Crabs mixed with Dungies when we fished North of Prince Rupert (Wales Island area). I think there should be some out there somewhere, just a matter of finding them.

I'll check out the link - thanks!

Jim's Fishing Charters
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I always catch octopus when I use Salmon, try a different bait and it should solve your problem. I have caught many octopus while prawning in Nanaimo. Some times the traps I have pulled will be like 10 pounds of prawns in the first trap, 1 pound of prawns and a few holes in the second trap then the next one is ripped to shreds with nothing in it, then the last one contains a big fat full octopus. to big to get out the hole he made to get in.

I can't blame the octopus, apparently they have a brain like a 2 yr old child. try walking past a candy isle with a 2 yr old. lol Funniest story I ever heard was of an aquairium in the USA that had a bunch of tropical fish going missing from one of their tanks. So they had set up video cameras in hopes of catching somone from thier staff stealing these rather expensive fish. As it turns out the film they got back was quite interesting to watch. Apparently it was an octopus from another tank down the hall that would climb out of his tank across the floor under the 1 inch gap at the bottom of the door, go down the hall, under the door where the tropical fish where kept, he would then climb into the tank and gorge on these fish and return to his own tank long before anyone from the staff came to open for the morning.

Take only what you need.
 
quote:Originally posted by Charlie

I started grabing offshore a few years back with some REAL good results. The only problem I have is the depth. I don't have a pot puller! It gets old real quick, pulling pots up by hand!

Great info. When you crabbed 10 miles out what depth were you dropping in?

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Years ago, I dropped a pot in Nuchatlitz... nothing! Then I dropped a prawn trap and caught a ton of small crab! Hmmm... The Sea Otters are eating everything insight in the inlet. So, I decided to drop outside in about 300' and Bam...! I now carry at least two 400' lines and two 100' lines (plus extra). I have more spools of line on board than you can shake a stick at.

Most of the time I attach two pots using the 100' line in tandem, dropping them using the 400' line. Use weights in the pots to keep them upright. If you don't one or both of the pots will be pulled sideways... Not good!

Remember... make sure you have someone on board to pull the pots... as they are no fun from 300 feet of water!

okay... so I can't spell! Edited for spelling! :)
 
quote:Originally posted by Charlie


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Remember... make sure you have someone on board to pull the pots... as they are no fun from 300 feet of water!

okay... so I can't spell! Edited for spelling! :)

No kidding!

A couple of years ago, I went out to pick up my Prawn traps, just the wife and me. I got to haul all 8 traps (400' each) by hand!

I thought it was good exercise until I was laying in bed that night and discovered that I couldn't move my arms.

I have a couple of good west coast crab traps that should be good for deep water. I just hope we get some good weather so I can take them out there. The thought of picking them up in a 4 foot sea is not something I would look forward to. [xx(]


Jim's Fishing Charters
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quote:Originally posted by The Fish Assassin

I always catch octopus when I use Salmon, try a different bait and it should solve your problem. <snip>

Personally, I don't see catching Octopi as a problem :D They make great Halibut bait, and my cat just loves them! [:p] There is nothing funnier that watching my cat Spike chew on a chunk of raw Octopus [8D]

Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250
 
quote:
A couple of years ago, I went out to pick up my Prawn traps, just the wife and me. I got to haul all 8 traps (400' each) by hand!

I thought it was good exercise until I was laying in bed that night and discovered that I couldn't move my arms.

I have a couple of good west coast crab traps that should be good for deep water. I just hope we get some good weather so I can take them out there. The thought of picking them up in a 4 foot sea is not something I would look forward to. [xx(]
I can relate to that!
The last time I pulled from 385’ by myself by hand! I thought it was good exercise also, until I couldn’t get out of bed the next morning… it was both an arm and back thing! Just getting to old! Since I only fish that deep up there… and only go up there for a couple of weeks I have a hard time justifying the cost of a good puller. Friends are cheaper and even seem to enjoy it, so I let them really enjoy themselves! :)

All the pots I run are collapsible (saves space on board) and usually carry 6. I have 2 octagons, 2 house, and 2 square. The square ones (the cheapies) are the first ones I bought and can’t seem to lose them; always lose the new more expensive ones. I do keep them on board for spares and use when I have people on board and can fish more pots! Or, like last year when someone threw my two (brand new) octagons over without attaching the buoy. Tried dragging my cannon ball on bottom to snag the line between the pots, but couldn’t pick it up, so… two new pots, line, lights, harness, bait bails… down the tube!

quote:: Originally posted by The Fish Assassin

I always catch octopus when I use Salmon, try a different bait and it should solve your problem. <snip>
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Personally, I don't see catching Octopi as a problem they make great Halibut bait, and my cat just loves them! There is nothing funnier that watching my cat Spike chew on a chunk of raw Octopus

Personally, I prefer using salmon and catching the occasional Octopi over pulling up an empty pot! :D
Charlie
 
quote:Originally posted by Slabby20

quote:Originally posted by Charlie

I started grabing offshore a few years back with some REAL good results. The only problem I have is the depth. I don't have a pot puller! It gets old real quick, pulling pots up by hand!

Great info. When you crabbed 10 miles out what depth were you dropping in?
If you looked on Mapster in the shaded areas! Very sheldom will I drop over about 385'.
 
quote:Originally posted by Charlie

Years ago, I dropped a pot in Nuchatlitz... nothing! Then I dropped a prawn trap and caught a ton of small crab! Hmmm... The Sea Otters are eating everything insight in the inlet. So, I decided to drop outside in about 300' and Bam...! I now carry at least two 400' lines and two 100' lines (plus extra). I have more spools of line on board than you can shake a stick at.

Most of the time I attach two pots using the 100' line in tandem, dropping them using the 400' line. Use weights in the pots to keep them upright. If you don't one or both of the pots will be pulled sideways... Not good!

Remember... make sure you have someone on board to pull the pots... as they are no fun from 300 feet of water!

okay... so I can't spell! Edited for spelling! :)



Do you just crab offshore or are there prawns to be caught as well?
 
quote:Originally posted by Slabby20

quote:Originally posted by Charlie

Most of the time I attach two pots using the 100' line in tandem, dropping them using the 400' line. Use weights in the pots to keep them upright. If you don't one or both of the pots will be pulled sideways... Not good!

Do you just crab offshore or are there prawns to be caught as well?
Hmmm.... if you are looking for Prawns, see Jim's youtube video! It is pretty damn accurate!

I didn't drop my prawn traps in Nuchatliz to catch prawns, but to see what was down there (ie baby crab). The Sea Otters eat a whole lot and the prawn traps told me there where tons of small crab in the area... so all I had to do was find the adults! Knowing crab migrate offshore, so did I! :D

I mostly crab between Port Renfrew and Tofino now days... I have found and believe them to be the best areas and they are closer in and no "Sea Otter" problems. I have done VERY well! I only crab offshore in the Nuchatliz/Kyuquot areas due to the "Sea Otter" thing, they love crab! :(

All my prawning is in the Tahsis Inlet/Hacate Channel at both sides the entrance of McBride Bay. Just look for the prawn pots... they will be there! Again check out the Mapster map. But when it comes to prawns in Tahsis... I would stick to McBride Bay!

I have never had a need to prawn offshore!
Charlie
 
quote:Hmmm.... if you are looking for Prawns, see Jim's youtube video! It is pretty damn accurate! I didn't drop my pots in Nuchatliz to catch prawns, but to see what was down there. The Sea Otters eat a whole lot!

I mostly crab between Port Renfrew and Tofino... I believe that to be the best area. And have done VERY well! I have not tried prawning offshore.


Thanks for the plug on the Prawn video!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=War27H6XBRM

This was filmed on the inside - Tahsis Inlet, Tahsis Narrows, and McBride Bay areas. All inside protected waters.

I would love to take the traps off-shore one day to see what is out there. I have a couple of rockpiles marked where I have caught Lingcod and various Rockfish that I think might be a good spot to drop them for a day.

Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250
 
quote:Originally posted by Sushihunter


quote:Hmmm.... if you are looking for Prawns, see Jim's youtube video! It is pretty damn accurate! I didn't drop my pots in Nuchatliz to catch prawns, but to see what was down there. The Sea Otters eat a whole lot!

I mostly crab between Port Renfrew and Tofino... I believe that to be the best area. And have done VERY well! I have not tried prawning offshore.


Thanks for the plug on the Prawn video!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=War27H6XBRM

This was filmed on the inside - Tahsis Inlet, Tahsis Narrows, and McBride Bay areas. All inside protected waters.

I would love to take the traps off-shore one day to see what is out there. I have a couple of rockpiles marked where I have caught Lingcod and various Rockfish that I think might be a good spot to drop them for a day.

Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250
Your welcome... :)
 
Shushihunter says:
quote:I have a couple of good west coast crab traps that should be good for deep water. I just hope we get some good weather so I can take them out there. The thought of picking them up in a 4 foot sea is not something I would look forward to.

I find that in a moderate sea it almost helps you to pull them, let the waves do most of the work and pull when it goes a little slack.:)

Take only what you need.
 
quote:Originally posted by The Fish Assassin

Shushihunter says:
quote:I have a couple of good west coast crab traps that should be good for deep water. I just hope we get some good weather so I can take them out there. The thought of picking them up in a 4 foot sea is not something I would look forward to.

I find that in a moderate sea it almost helps you to pull them, let the waves do most of the work and pull when it goes a little slack.:)

Take only what you need.

100% correct!
 
quote:Originally posted by Sushihunter


quote:Hmmm.... if you are looking for Prawns, see Jim's youtube video! It is pretty damn accurate! I didn't drop my pots in Nuchatliz to catch prawns, but to see what was down there. The Sea Otters eat a whole lot!

I mostly crab between Port Renfrew and Tofino... I believe that to be the best area. And have done VERY well! I have not tried prawning offshore.


Thanks for the plug on the Prawn video!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=War27H6XBRM

This was filmed on the inside - Tahsis Inlet, Tahsis Narrows, and McBride Bay areas. All inside protected waters.

I would love to take the traps off-shore one day to see what is out there. I have a couple of rockpiles marked where I have caught Lingcod and various Rockfish that I think might be a good spot to drop them for a day.

Jim's Fishing Charters
www.JimsFishing.com
http://ca.youtube.com/user/Sushihunter250
Spot prawns range from Alaska to San Diego, California, in depths from 150 to 1,600 feet (46 to 488 meters). Areas of higher abundance are most offshore banks. The following wasn't written by me, but thought you would find it usefull in you quest for offshore prawns!

I quess it wouldn't be a bad idea to find a spot offshore. I am sure they will change the fishery again!

Charlie

"This species is a protandric hermaphrodite, beginning life as a male and changing into a female. ***ual maturity as a male is reached during the third year, with the carapace length (CL) averaging 1.5-inches (33-millimeters). By the fourth year, many males begin to change *** to the transitional stage. By the end of the fourth year, the transitionals become females averaging 1.75-inches (44-millimeters) CL. Maximum observed age is estimated at over 6 years, but there are considerable differences in age and growth of spot prawns between areas. Animals from Canada live no longer than 4 years, whereas, prawns from southern California can reach 6 years. Studies indicate that prawns grow faster in a temperate environment than in a cold environment.

Spawning occurs once a year, and each individual mates once as a male and once or twice as a female. Females spawn at a carapace length of 1.75-inches (44-millimeters). Spawning takes place at depths of 500 to 700 feet (152 to 213 meters). September appears to be the start of the spawning season, when the eggs are extruded onto the females’ swimmerets. Female spot prawn carry eggs for a period of 4 to 5 months before they hatch. By April, only 15 percent of females still carry eggs.

Fecundity varies with size and age, ranging from approximately 1,400 to 5,000 eggs for the first spawning down to 1,000 eggs for the second spawning. Eggs hatch over a ten-day period and the first three or four larval stages are planktonic. During the third or fourth stage, spot prawn larvae begin to settle out at depths as shallow as 175 feet (53 meters). After completing larval stage six at a carapace length of approximately 0.3-inches (8-millimeters), spot prawns are considered to be juveniles and progressively move deeper as they reach adulthood.

Spot prawns feed on other shrimp, plankton, small mollusks, worms, sponges, and fish carcasses. They usually forage on the bottom throughout the day and night."
 
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