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So what happens if a fellow commercial guy has gear down do you set on top of him and tell him to f off? If the season is open it seems to me everyone has the same right to fish. Having said that I avoid the area's being carpet bombed and appreciate guys are trying to make a living and time is money. I'd hope with common sense prevails and no one feels the need to damage anyone's gear and respects each others rights to fish.
 
congrats you win worst post of the day.

1. if you had asked me to kindly pull my 50 traps and 3600 feet of groundline to free up your 2 little sport traps id have told you to **** off too and maybe not so politely.
2. you think we set our gear in a spot because we want to "screw" sport fishermen? get a grip. were out there trying to make a living, and if that means setting gear in an area with sport gear because it will increase production, so be it.
3. threatening to cut scotchmans off commercial gear?!?! enjoy that massssive fine and whatever other reprocussions that come along with that if you actually go through with it.
4. who's got more to lose here? the boat owner that has hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in licenses and gear, or some twat with 2 Cambodian tire plastic plunderers that should have fished his prawns in april?

my best advice for someone wanting to sport fish for prawns during the commercial season, either just don't, or if you must, get some information on how the commercial prawn fishery works, especially get to know how a commercial string is set up, 9/10 sport guys have no clue and that's what leads to these issues. captains are constantly moving their gear around, especially on a slow year like this one, so just because a spot is empty in the morning doesn't mean it will be in the afternoon after the gear gets shuffled around that's another important thing to keep in mind.

If I came across with a commercial that told me to F Off I would be getting my knife out and would be cutting his buoys off. I'd make him and his crew drag for their gear. If I was told to not fish cause of the commercial opening by a commercial fisherman again I would be cutting his buoys.

The last commercial crab fisherman that messed with me found all his traps stacked in the sporty launches parking lot. All cause his response when I asked for my tackle back. He lifted a handful of tackle and informed me that it had been added to his collection and refused. The arse had about 300 extra feet of line out there floating costing sports fishermen tons of money. They don't own our Canadian waters.
 
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Pretty sure i dropped on top of his gear, the tide was really given er and missjudged my drop, i would never intentionally doubledown on anyones gear. My name isnt elliot form the saga ,My only hope is that if he was able to cut n re-tie, I was in the wrong 100% if my traps are gone its my fault...$%K BEANS.. maybe i should just stick with trolling for salmon.:p
 
Probably wont be out there till around 930 as i have to drive my sweets to work.. Anyone wants to give me a sitrap from the scene my string is 100 meters off the northwest side of fingers, Pretty sure i caught his line because when i let it back the scotchman floats directly in line with the commercial traps...time will tell Albernifisher you out there yet? probably have three in the boat by now..I will be sitting on 88a when i get out there..
 
Are commercial prawn strings that heavy that you can't use an anchor lift and pull them with a respectable sport boat?

One time halibut fishing I had a prawner drop his string so close to my anchor. I was yelling at him while he dropped it but he didnt care he set right across my bow not having any idea how much rope I had out. I thought I'd be tangled and wrestling with his string for sure.

Thankfully for both of us he judged the distance well and must have missed my anchor because I was able to pull it without issue. I'd never mess with anyone's gear but drop traps on my anchor and ill do whatever it takes to get it back and probably wouldn't be nice and re tie for him if/when I had to cut lines. Then again he was so close he woulda seen what was going on and either offered assistance or it would have gotten ugly.
 
Hey Jeffy ....I thought that was you out there yesterday......I was about 100ft from you in the red Lund.

I yelled over but you looked like you were pretty busy trying to unsnarl the whole shooting match......
 
congrats you win worst post of the day.

1. if you had asked me to kindly pull my 50 traps and 3600 feet of groundline to free up your 2 little sport traps id have told you to **** off too and maybe not so politely.
2. you think we set our gear in a spot because we want to "screw" sport fishermen? get a grip. were out there trying to make a living, and if that means setting gear in an area with sport gear because it will increase production, so be it.
3. threatening to cut scotchmans off commercial gear?!?! enjoy that massssive fine and whatever other reprocussions that come along with that if you actually go through with it.
4. who's got more to lose here? the boat owner that has hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in licenses and gear, or some twat with 2 Cambodian tire plastic plunderers that should have fished his prawns in april?

my best advice for someone wanting to sport fish for prawns during the commercial season, either just don't, or if you must, get some information on how the commercial prawn fishery works, especially get to know how a commercial string is set up, 9/10 sport guys have no clue and that's what leads to these issues. captains are constantly moving their gear around, especially on a slow year like this one, so just because a spot is empty in the morning doesn't mean it will be in the afternoon after the gear gets shuffled around that's another important thing to keep in mind.
Chevy
I wasn't telling him to cut your lines if you actual read the whole post! I told him to hang in the area and wait for the commie to come back and try to get his gear back. Ther is no reason for a commercial boat to drop his string through the middle of 50 sport traps other than to ruin there day and end up with there traps in hopes to get more product. I used to commercial fish and was actually with a shrimp boat captain when this happened and we talked to the prawn boat captain nicely due to the fact there were ten other boats that couldn't get there gear back and if it wasn't us that talked to him someone else would have done the cutting. It is bad judgement for any captain to run his string through the sports ground other than for his own greed and disrespect for the sports fleet that are also trying to feed there families. You should read the whole post before posting your own rant. If I am going to lose a bunch of money due to ignorance then I will do or say what is needed to get my gear back. Funny thing is once we told the captain our plan he was also very happy to get our traps back and everyone else's. I believe a sport boat can als lodge a complaint with fisheries and the coast guard regarding the actions of a commercial boat and get there point across that way. Would you like to followed all day by 20 sportiest when you are pulling your gear so they can get there gear back that you intentionally dropped on there gear due to your disrespect for the sport fleet.

End of rant!
 
Chevy

Funny how you didn't put the whole quote on only the part you wanted to complain about and make me look bad. Shows what type of a person and fisherman you are to get your single sided commercial view across. Everyone on here is trying to help him get his gear back and would do the same for other members on this forum. We are all Canadians that have a right to fish an area when it is open and because it is a commercial opening we should not have to stop our lives for you and other commercial boats it is a big ocean out there and if there are traps down anyone with a brain would set outside or away from them. Some traps will drift in the tide but a commercial string doesn't travel as far as 2 sport traps s&$t happens and Jeff was looking for help. Not someone telling him to go home until the commercial fleet is done screwing with other people's gear because they want As much as they can get because they think they own the resource.
 
I just tried a tug wont budge...almost had the back cleat in water, gonna leaver put and hope for the best, see if i can bag a chinook in the mean time ..:)
 
I like the idea of having a certain area designated for sport fishing only this time of year. Let me clarify something though, I did not say it was ok for a guy to set right on top of a pile of sport gear, it takes a real asshole to do that, 9/10 guys will try to weave their gear around the sports gear but sometimes traps will get set over, usually due to the fact that your average sport gear setup has 450 feet of line in 250 feet of water, so traps are rarely right beneath the buoy, or most will just leave the area all together if there is a minefield of sports gear that cant just be weaved around. im not saying everyone is an angel out there but this type of thing goes both ways.
example: while fishing barkley sound the last few weeks there was a sport closure for the first 2 weeks of the commercial season, we had a string just inside china creek, come back to haul it on the day that the sporties opened and there is literally about 25 sets of sport gear peppered on top of our string, luckily for those guys I am very patient with this type of thing and didn't mind adding an extra hour to my already long day to ensure nobody lost their gear, I had to cut and retie lines about 20 times, including one poor bastards yellow floating line that made a real mess of things, boo hoo right? if you read back to the beginning of the thread you'll see I was trying to help jeff and do sincerely hope he gets his traps back.

to anyone that might think messing with commercial gear will solve your problem better give your head a shake. I agree there are some real assholes out there in the commercial industry but no matter what the case, threatening to cut gear off is a major no no. go through with cutting and you've just opened pandoras shitbox, one cell phone photo is all it takes to get the book thrown at someone for this, and that goes both ways. 2 wrongs don't make a right. I would love to see what would happen to some hero rolling in to the ramp with a stack of commercial gear only to be greeted by the cops. what would you say? hey officer I only stole his 6000 dollars worth of gear cause he set over me? have fun dealing with that.

as for me having a single sided view you couldn't be further from the truth, but I wont get into that as I don't feel I need to justify anything to you. all im saying in regards to sport fishing during the commercial fishery is simple, either don't, or get informed so you know what youre doing and what those around you are doing. if the 3-500 dollar sets of gear are so important, then why gamble with them this time of year anyway? this is all a game you must be willing to play if you really, really feel the need to fill your freezer this time of year. all these "screwing with peoples gear" comments are just silly. and you guys spouting off about cutting scotchmans your coming off no better than the stereotypical commercial fisherman that wants nothing more than to steal and wreck every piece of sport gear out there. take a look in the mirror and unpuff your chest when you make a comment like that. as for owning the resource, we get to fish probably 45-50 days out of 365 in a year, sporties in most areas get the full 365, including the 45-50 that were out there trying to make a buck, so I don't believe any one of us is delusional enough to believe we own the resource.
 
So what happens if a fellow commercial guy has gear down do you set on top of him and tell him to f off? If the season is open it seems to me everyone has the same right to fish. Having said that I avoid the area's being carpet bombed and appreciate guys are trying to make a living and time is money. I'd hope with common sense prevails and no one feels the need to damage anyone's gear and respects each others rights to fish.

this does happen from time to time but not often. in the past if weve ever accidentally set over another boats string we'd call them up apologize, and tell them we'll pick and move that string first thing the next day. I have heard of the odd gear war between boats but its just bad business for everyone involved. weve had our scotchmans cut off a couple times over the years, dragging for gear sucks.

I apologize for some of my ruder comments last night.
 
Are commercial prawn strings that heavy that you can't use an anchor lift and pull them with a respectable sport boat?

One time halibut fishing I had a prawner drop his string so close to my anchor. I was yelling at him while he dropped it but he didnt care he set right across my bow not having any idea how much rope I had out. I thought I'd be tangled and wrestling with his string for sure.

Thankfully for both of us he judged the distance well and must have missed my anchor because I was able to pull it without issue. I'd never mess with anyone's gear but drop traps on my anchor and ill do whatever it takes to get it back and probably wouldn't be nice and re tie for him if/when I had to cut lines. Then again he was so close he woulda seen what was going on and either offered assistance or it would have gotten ugly.

setting a string over your anchor would be the definition of "a dick move" I would be furious If it actually caused a mess, luckily in your case it didn't. your anchor lift might be able to pull up one end of a string but if it were snagged in the middle, it would be tough.
 
Chevy

The threat was only made as we watched the guy from the beach set over our gear. The shrimp captain I was with knew that would make him do the right thing and he did and we thanked him. I was only telling what happened too me and that was it which is why I told him to hang by his gear as the local prawn guys are usually pulling in that area late afternoon that is it. This forum I thought was for telling the good and bad of what happened on you on your fishing days and that's what I was saying. Wasn't condoning any action but sometimes a negative can help get the action you need to get your stuff back. Most captains I know are decent guys and will help you but there are others out there that hate sporties and blame us for there bad days. I am going to run out this afternoon and see if Jeff is around and see if my boat can pull his gear free if he wants if not it will be a waiting game or a loss.
 
this does happen from time to time but not often. in the past if weve ever accidentally set over another boats string we'd call them up apologize, and tell them we'll pick and move that string first thing the next day. I have heard of the odd gear war between boats but its just bad business for everyone involved. weve had our scotchmans cut off a couple times over the years, dragging for gear sucks.

I apologize for some of my ruder comments last night.

No problem from my end, hope you have a profitable season.
 
Just for the record, the commie boat did nicely cut n retie my line for me... then he so nicely dropped his anchor back trapping my gear on the seafloor leaving me with an uncomfortable choice, repeated atempts to contact the boat on vhf for two days went un-answered , with the help of a far less "fugly Boat" we managed to reclaim my line weights and scotchman.
 
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I realized i was in the wrong about two hours after i set them out , traps are lost now and i have already purchased new ones.
 
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