Lures with Red and Infrared Light......

[Seafever]

Doing some reading on the Net......it seems that when the saltwater is murky with algae and other discolorants, "Red" light (Not to be confused with the color "Red") and InfraRed light lures will outperform UV-type lures (especially when you are fishing deep).

I know that light is measured in degrees Kelvin.

A blue summer sky is about 21,000 degrees kelvin.

Old screw-in housebulbs were about 5600 degrees kelvin and were considered to be the "red" end of the light spectrum.

But I don't know how you apply these facts to a fishing lure.

Just painting it red will not necessarily change anything.

I suppose one could insert a light capsule into a hoochie. A capsule that emits light at 5 to 6000 degrees kelvin.
Not sure what Kelvin temp those "Pirate' lights are.....

I don't know how you get a lure to emit Infrared.

Some of the fish down deep that use built in biological lures to catch fish (ones that emit light) actually use "red' end spectrum light to do it.

Anybody know more about this?? Like how you would get a lure to emit Infrared or actual "red-end spectrum" light?

 

[Peahead]

Maybe contact Michael of Pirates Den Fishing as he is experimenting with various colours of blinking light emitting capsules that slip into hootchies. Both Nikka and Harbour Chandler ( and some others) carry his product. If you suggest something to him he may produce it to test out ( and faster than you might expect )

Your Kelvin degrees is out a bit .... incandescent/tungsten light bulbs emit fairly red light at about 3200-3800 ( red spectrum) Outside daylight at noon is toward blue at about 5500-6500 K. Evening and early morning light would be back to redish spectrum ....probably be similar to indoor incandescent -

Interesting question about infrared light and fishing. As far as I know infrared exists as light not seen so can't be detected without special equipment. But before I go on about somethig I know litttle about , I will do some reasearch as you have now got me curious.

 

[wildthing]

why not just use a glow snap stick?

if led's where that good don't you think the commercial guys would be doing it????
and fish in deep water bio-luminescence is it not

 

[salty-dog]

Seafever, some fish can be attracted by IR frequencies as research has shown. It is not yet clear if it is the actual lightbeam and the way it reacts in water or if it has something to do with the radiant heat emitted by the way the frequency "vibrates" through motionless friction. It is a complex concept. For the time being, I will wait until the US Dept Of Energy concludes their testing due to the technicalities and expense. I think the outcome will be interesting, but I also don't hold out promise for seeing IR fishing gear. I do have a few things that are IR but not for fishing.

In order to produce something for the industry, it must first and foremost, be inexpensive and IR tech just ain't so. To produce an IR lure would end up with a product few anglers could afford to lose- if they could {or would} buy it.

Its not anything I am interested in doing at the time due to costs, but as time progreses, like all things, the price of components will drop. Remember that 30 years ago, few could afford L.E.D. Also, I am thinking that military applications will keep prices high.

Do not dispare, however, as I do have three major items in the woks and will have all three on the market before the season is done. None of the three have ever been marketed before. A couple are out for final testing now.

@ Wildthing: yes, L.E.D. does make a difference. There are commies using them and have been or a few years now. Some folks, commie or sport don't take well to changes. They use what they always have. By all means, that is fine. There are soething I just don't change, either. Such as texting with a phone. To my notion, a five minute conversation can relay far more info that a 30 minutes text session. But that's just me.

Anyway, the lights do change the game. Think to that movie The perfect Storm. At one point, a man is hooked and dragged outboard. His job was connecting light sticks for swordfish longlines. We have several commie customers in the Boston Harbour region that used to do the very same thing. They are currently using our products.

Just like glow lures.... at one time, few would use them. Now, almost every tackle box has them. It took nearly 30 years to get that far. This game is a tough one and the wait times for payback are long. Lacking "staying power" will put one out real quick.

 

[Seafever]

Thanks.....so that clears up the "infrared" thing to some extent.

But what of ordinary "Red" light....the 3200/3800Kelvin end of the spectrum? I beleive this light is what you find in a flashlight bulb etc.....there was a guy in Washington who makes these little halibut light that go on the spreader bar.
I know because I bought two of them a few years back. They are clear plastic, powered by a battery.
I would think this is "red-end" light because there is nothing special about the bulbs.

And what temp/Kelvin is an ordinary LED hoochy insert?

When I expose a flasher such as "Cracked Ice" to a room with ordinary household bulb it gives of a better color spectrum flash than when I expose the same flasher to a room that has "daylight" bulbs only. Ditto for any "prism" finish.