Get your halibut lease now and save

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Get your halibut lease now and save

Just thought I would post up some details from info I got from an article I read in Island Angler. Lyle Pierce has deal you should not miss, if you like the bend over thing.

Quote from article “ IQMI (www.IQMI.ca) a quota management service for the fishing industry, is a broker for trade, exchanges and leases. Lyle Pierce of IQMI says his firm will represent commercial halibut quota holders who are offering sports fishers a chance to buy quota “

So lets run the numbers and see what it costs. Let’s say 100 pounds and a lease purchased before May 31, 2011.

100lb of halibut x $4.85 = $485.00
Credit card fee 3% x $485 = $14.55
Transfer fee 3% x $499.55 = $14.98
HST (on the transfer fee) 12% x $14.98 = $1.80

For a grand total of $516.33 for 100 pounds of halibut

Lyle where should I send the cheque? I can’t wait to send you my hard earned money to pay you for my fish.
Yea right.:mad:
 
That's good stuff, nice to see it in writing. Who in their right mind would go along with this program and lease some halibut? Just blows my mind that someone(Tami) came up with the BS idea and thought it would work. Again, another blotched idea by our mighty DFO, man they are sure doing a good job!
 
BearCove said:
That's good stuff, nice to see it in writing. Who in their right mind would go along with this program and lease some halibut? Just blows my mind that someone(Tami) came up with the BS idea and thought it would work. Again, another blotched idea by our mighty DFO, man they are sure doing a good job!
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Not to mention the associated wasted costs in the form of our tax dollars. No body wanted this, but here it is. Just another BS ploy by DFO to say "Well it's not our fault. We came up with a solution but the sport sector is being unreasonable."

Talk about your political butt covering.
 
What no "Do Not pay the HST before May 31st Sale"???:p

The only cheque that he should be getting from anyone is a rubber one signed with dog *****. Then he can bounce his a$$ to the curb with his smelly rubber cheque.

I swear that if anyone buys into this scheme,,, they need to shot with a ball of $H!T:mad:


Still can't get my head around this total BS,,, so how do they sell us commercial quota with out us having a commercial lisence??? That has to **** the working Commercial guys off that the sporties would be able to buy commercial quota and fish it without having to pay for a commercial lisence - just wondering. Also seeing that they are selling commercial quota, doesn't that mean that we could then catch our purchased quota and then sell it for a profit??? Again the very idea of this must really **** the active quota holders right off. Bad enough that the active fishermen have to purchase additional quota from the Slippers at ransom prices, but now do they have a newly created competition for not only the purchase of the additional quota in the first place (which will drive up the cost - more demand than supply), but also competition at the market place for the sale of the actual fish (which will drive the price down - simple more supply than demand)? If we are not allowed to sell the fish because it is "sport fish", then how are we allowed to buy sport fish? I seem to remember something in the fishing regs about NO Barter, Trade, Sale etc,,, well something along those lines. So can we buy and sell fish now???

Geesh, this whole fishing thing shur iz gettin confuzin, I dunno:confused::p
 
I am willing to bet a few lodges will secure themselves and do it! Then we are all pooched. Someone will weasel into a sweetheart deal!

The amount of boats Haly fishing this year is about double on the South Isl with the slot on Springs, early shut down is imminent. 88/12 what a joke.
 
If any lodges do this, I suggest a serious internet boycott of the lodge / lodges in question. The only way to stop this is for NO ONE to buy into this.

Some informational links / blogs / web posts about the lodges that do buy this, ruining the chances of an "alternative" fishery for all sportfishermen, should most certainly be explored by many people concerned.

Is it worth buying these quota's to find that no one will come fish for them?
Yet to be seen.
 
I'm thinking the lodges don't want this either. Looking at the cost break down above, some of these big lodges would have to lease upwards of 5000 lbs, that's $25,000 they will have to shell out. Thinking that recouping the money will be really hard for them, the way the economy is right now,thinking they won't be taking a chance on spending that kind of $$$ after they have already sold there packages. Where are they going to get that extra $$$ from to pay for the leased fished? I believe they don't want anything to do with this program, it is only going to drive up the cost of there packages, hense less guests as the cost will be to high.
 
money ,money,money, gimme,gimme,gimme. Makes me sick!

Doesn't it seem that the commies are getting too much of the TAC if they can sell part of their quota????
 
Hoochiebob said:
money ,money,money, gimme,gimme,gimme. Makes me sick!

Doesn't it seem that the commies are getting too much of the TAC if they can sell part of their quota????
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It works out better for them to sell it rather than fish it
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BearCove said:
I'm thinking the lodges don't want this either. Looking at the cost break down above, some of these big lodges would have to lease upwards of 5000 lbs, that's $25,000 they will have to shell out. Thinking that recouping the money will be really hard for them, the way the economy is right now,thinking they won't be taking a chance on spending that kind of $$$ after they have already sold there packages. Where are they going to get that extra $$$ from to pay for the leased fished? I believe they don't want anything to do with this program, it is only going to drive up the cost of there packages, hense less guests as the cost will be to high.
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I figure this depends on the business model of the charter operator and fishing area. If the charters live and die by halibut/salmon combo trips, then it will be very tempting to buy into this program -- and frankly I'll be surprised if some don't. You'll know who they are ... the people still advertising halibut fishing this August!

Charters might bury it in the cost of trips year-round (increase all $50, to pay for the quota fee in August). Or you up the fee in August, to at least partially offset quota cost, with the rest a loss leader ... costs the guide $200 in quota fees to get a $1000 charter. Or you pass it on entirely "if you want to fish halibut, will cost you $x extra...we're the only boat fishing so take it or leave it".

As I read the regs, charter operators don't have to reconcile quota fees owing until January ... so doubt anyone would buy in advance. And for the less scrupulous folks out there ... if no one checked your boat and your clients didn't get checked, who's to say you ever caught any quota halibut at all? To me, whether you agree with this program or not, that loophole has to be closed....it makes it open season for over-fishing and virtually no chance of getting caught.
 
You mean if I get checked and have a hali after it closes I can say well I'm paying for it..........

Let me think here........ In the last 15 years...
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I have been checked 3 times...

Show me where this loophole is Juandy.....

DFO is so SMRT
 
FYI I phoned That DFO Tami and and gave her a good once over. I told her I wanted to buy quota so I could just sell hali. She said oooooh no, you cant sell it!! I told her I will raise my rates way above everybody else to cover the cost of the hali, and charge a % to make a buck? Is that not selling it? Then I really stumped her with....And futher more when the season closes and you have a hali hanging at the side of the boat I will flat out guess the weight and have a visa imprinter ready before it comes over the side. IS this not selling the fish? I also wanted a list to be published of any guides or lodges that purchased quota so "I could catch a halibut when the season closed" The call ended abruptly.
 
hooktender68 said:
FYI I phoned That DFO Tami and and gave her a good once over. I told her I wanted to buy quota so I could just sell hali. She said oooooh no, you cant sell it!! I told her I will raise my rates way above everybody else to cover the cost of the hali, and charge a % to make a buck? Is that not selling it? Then I really stumped her with....And futher more when the season closes and you have a hali hanging at the side of the boat I will flat out guess the weight and have a visa imprinter ready before it comes over the side. IS this not selling the fish? I also wanted a list to be published of any guides or lodges that purchased quota so "I could catch a halibut when the season closed" The call ended abruptly.
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"The Call" ends,,,, after a moment of pause and silence,,,, the bell finally rings, Oh ****, WE (DFO) screwed this up, they will be selling the halibut, and there is no question that this is completely illegal. We (DFO) will infact be forcing the Sport fisherman to break the law. Now what are we going to do???? Do I tell somebody? Can I find anyone that can do something about it, that will give a damned? I'll just keep quiet about this, I don't want to cause any waves here and go ACCUSING anyone of screwing this up, besides if I don't say anything, who will ever now that this Phone call ever took place??:eek:
 
as soon as the rec season is closed I say we all buy some quota and set up at recreation caught hali stand!! As soon as DFO comes on down to bust us we can show them that it was caught with commercial quota, hell may be a good way to help guides make an extra buck in the off-season.
 
Looks like you can sell it, to your guests but not on the open market! What's the difference, they step on your boat, give you an extra $100 you sell them the halibut, that is retail sales isn't it? Totally flawed system, only promotes illegal fishing. Like what was stated earlier,who's going to enforce this program after it closes. Lease 10 lbs catch 1000lbs, who's going to know?
 
Yep! Checks in the mail, I won't come in your mouth, and I will only stick the head in!
Up yours bastards!
 
Boys, you can't sell it to your customers under any circumstances as a direct sale. Either build it into your door rate, or charge nothing at all.... it is illegal for you to sell or have the customer pay the direct cost of that fish period.

As for the charter industry buying quota, I call BS. There isn't one that I know of that would be that stupid....and if you can find me evidence of who did, I want it. Can't believe the urban myths out there.
 
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