This testimony is a classic example of the cause of nearly all industril disasters. It does not matter what technology, alarms, procedures and processes you have in place. You can never remove failures because of human frailty, arrogance, incompetance and sheer lack of care or sense of responsibility. A disaster with the Northern Gateway pipeline and/or the tankers that move the bitumen is certain....because of people. The captain of the Exxon Valdez was drunk in his cabin when the ship hit the rocks - some fool of a person or persons will cause a disaster in BC. It is inevitable because people are fallible!!