Hey Ned? Can you get back to me about the riggers? I will take them. I have been out twice now with no downriggers and it is hard fishing. Today some Idiot in a commercial boat called Crusader ran through a bunch of boats at Thrasher and actually ran over our gear hooking it up on his hull as he's running at full boar through all the boats. What a tool. He had the entire Georgia strait to travel through and the fool decides to cut directly behind us at the last minute. Therefore ensuring 100% hook up possibilities. So it was a $13.00 flasher, $30.00 worth of line, A coyote spoon that was $8.17, and a $20.00 deep six lure. Over $70.00 for what minding our own business and just trolling along!!? In our 2 trips without downriggers we've had 5 springs, 1 Coho and 3 halibut. Three springs at thrasher and the rest offshore of Barkley Sound. Not too bad considering, but those riggers are desperately needed.