Electoral Reform Referendum
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wildmanyeah
Crew Member
Thanks that one sealed the deal for me, maybe next time I’ll vote for PR
Now way to get rid of party elite that’s troubling
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ziggy
Well-Known Member
The article is saying under PR you can’t get rid of the Party Elite? I confused by what you’re saying.
IronNoggin
Well-Known Member
The Times Colonist steps into the fray...
"In normal circumstances, the Times Colonist does not support candidates or parties in elections. But on this occasion, we will take a position: B.C. should reject proportional representation.
This is not just asking us to buy a pig in a poke. It is asking us to buy a poke with little idea what might be inside.
We need to be clear about the choices at stake here — stable and accountable government, or government by backroom deal-making.
To us, the answer is clear. Proportional representation deserves to be defeated."
https://www.timescolonist.com/opini...reject-proportional-representation-1.23499748
Cheers,
Nog
"In normal circumstances, the Times Colonist does not support candidates or parties in elections. But on this occasion, we will take a position: B.C. should reject proportional representation.
This is not just asking us to buy a pig in a poke. It is asking us to buy a poke with little idea what might be inside.
We need to be clear about the choices at stake here — stable and accountable government, or government by backroom deal-making.
To us, the answer is clear. Proportional representation deserves to be defeated."
https://www.timescolonist.com/opini...reject-proportional-representation-1.23499748
Cheers,
Nog
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
Wow that’s saying something, that’s like the greens fav news outlet
Don't know where you get that from. Corporate shills. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...-times-colonist-sold-to-b-c-company-1.1018285
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
IronNoggin
Well-Known Member
Could be from the fact that they have offered continuous support for the Greens for one hell of a long time.
Anyone who reads it can instantly relate.
Guess you don't...
Cheers,
Nog
Used to read newspaper daily starting from a very young age and think I learned a lot. In those days they didn't hide an editorial as a news story they gave you the news and let you come to your own conclusion. Have not bought a paper in at least ten years so your right I don't.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
Apparently our poll was pretty scientific....
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/with-61-per-cent-support-b-c-voters-keep-first-past-the-post-1.4226461
"The current first-past-the-post system received 61.3 per cent of the votes cast, while proportional representation got 38.7 per cent."
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/with-61-per-cent-support-b-c-voters-keep-first-past-the-post-1.4226461
"The current first-past-the-post system received 61.3 per cent of the votes cast, while proportional representation got 38.7 per cent."
scott craven
Well-Known Member
No kidding, pretty darn to close to actual results.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
I think the results reflect how much the NDP botched this whole process. If I was weaver I would be livid.
Foxsea
Well-Known Member
1.4 million participated. So it proved that 26% of eligible British Columbians maybe got what they wanted and it's proven that at least 17% did not. The 1.9 million envelopes that went directly into the garbage is the most telling outcome of this failed process.
cracked_ribs
Well-Known Member
Whatever else we take from this I think it's undeniable at this point that the the appetite for electoral change is not sufficient to warrant changing systems. Although I agree, the process was carried out poorly.
casper5280
Crew Member
Yes it proves that 1.9 million British Columbians are stupid and can't follow simple instructions in filling out a important ballot.
cracked_ribs
Well-Known Member
Or that they choose not to participate, or that they don't have a preference, or that they're unsure of the consequences and don't want to be feel responsible for the selection, or that they think the question itself is unimportant...
There are all kinds of reasons a person might choose to abstain. I don't know that it's fair to assume that lack of participation is inherently indicative of stupidity.
There are all kinds of reasons a person might choose to abstain. I don't know that it's fair to assume that lack of participation is inherently indicative of stupidity.
IronNoggin
Well-Known Member
casper5280
Crew Member
Then why bother sending it in, you could of done all of the above with out sending it in
california
Well-Known Member
I actually believe there are some advantages to a PR system, and this result was more a reflection of a fatally flawed process that left all the details to a biased partisan process. It was solidly rejected and rightly so. If this comes back again, in 6 or 8 years it should be with a fully fleshed out proposal and transparent process. Maybe the result will be different.
