Double Eagle 190 project
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uclueletcharters
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140 suzi would be nice. Light and good price. A 150 price bounces up a bit price wise as does weight. There’s one of those hulls podded in town with a 130 Honda I believe and it appears to move along well.
The boring stuff….
After getting this thing home first on the list was to get these old white walls replaced. The cracking in the sidewall was nasty. Went with new wheels and tires and will get a spare put on one of the old wheels. Pulled the brakes and bearings apart and we’re actually in good shape! There was some small pitting on the sealing surface so went ahead and Speedi sleeved them. re greased and re assembled. No photos of them being apart as I was covered in grease…
After getting this thing home first on the list was to get these old white walls replaced. The cracking in the sidewall was nasty. Went with new wheels and tires and will get a spare put on one of the old wheels. Pulled the brakes and bearings apart and we’re actually in good shape! There was some small pitting on the sealing surface so went ahead and Speedi sleeved them. re greased and re assembled. No photos of them being apart as I was covered in grease…
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sly_karma
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A 140 Etec G2 if you can find one. The extra torque and lighter weight would make that hull fly. The 3 cyl gen 2s are the probably the best motors Evinrude ever made. Just avoid the onboard digital power steering, those have been troublesome.
Two years ago I repowered my 19.5 Lund with a gen 1 Etec 130, the best power I've ever had. Out of the hole torque, fuel economy, handling around rhe dock, planing under heavy loads, all just excellent. Top speed 40 mph @ 5500 rpm, best cruise 28-30mph @ 4200-4500 rpm. Cruising fuel economy of 4.0 - 4.5 mpg
My hull is a runabout style and slightly narrower beam at 7'8, so it's lighter than the 18.5 DE, but a 140 two stroke will give you the torque of a four stroke in the next size category up.
I'd be thinking carefully about the costs incurred by going up toward 200 hp: upfront price, fuel burn, larger tank install, additional weight, running and repair costs. That last bears some thought - can you find enough power and torque without going to a 6 cyl motor, because those cost more to maintain and repair than a 4 banger from the same family.
There's money to be saved by running a motor that's sized appropriately for the things you do the most, and acknowledging there might be an occasional time when a bit more juice would have been good, but not essential. Do you really want the expense of finding and installing the larger tank needed for a 200? - or settling for less range with the existing tank? Do you want to pay the 200 fuel bill all the time, even though you only need the jam once in a while?
You know your boat usage better than any of us do, what factors are most important to you that need to be given priority. Have fun with the build and make sure to post lots of pictures!
Two years ago I repowered my 19.5 Lund with a gen 1 Etec 130, the best power I've ever had. Out of the hole torque, fuel economy, handling around rhe dock, planing under heavy loads, all just excellent. Top speed 40 mph @ 5500 rpm, best cruise 28-30mph @ 4200-4500 rpm. Cruising fuel economy of 4.0 - 4.5 mpg
My hull is a runabout style and slightly narrower beam at 7'8, so it's lighter than the 18.5 DE, but a 140 two stroke will give you the torque of a four stroke in the next size category up.
I'd be thinking carefully about the costs incurred by going up toward 200 hp: upfront price, fuel burn, larger tank install, additional weight, running and repair costs. That last bears some thought - can you find enough power and torque without going to a 6 cyl motor, because those cost more to maintain and repair than a 4 banger from the same family.
There's money to be saved by running a motor that's sized appropriately for the things you do the most, and acknowledging there might be an occasional time when a bit more juice would have been good, but not essential. Do you really want the expense of finding and installing the larger tank needed for a 200? - or settling for less range with the existing tank? Do you want to pay the 200 fuel bill all the time, even though you only need the jam once in a while?
You know your boat usage better than any of us do, what factors are most important to you that need to be given priority. Have fun with the build and make sure to post lots of pictures!
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Brando
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150-200 Suzuki (4cyl) would get similar mpg and only require one oil change per season around $250 if you do the leg and motor yourself and come with 6yr warranty. Haven’t checked the lease or purchase price recently but I’d rather put the 5-10k down on bran new and lease with a warranty personally. Loved my optimax for many reasons but would never go back to 2stroke the oil costs were ridiculous 10L-$150 and I would need to fill the tank every few times out if your a frequent boater that cost alone almost pays your lease depending what you put down.
Slowly but surely…
Pod is booked for the new year with E&D out of Coombs. I am starting the process of removing the inboard this week. Thought I would mention here I am selling the AQ151c package everything included. If anyone’s interested let me know!
Pod is booked for the new year with E&D out of Coombs. I am starting the process of removing the inboard this week. Thought I would mention here I am selling the AQ151c package everything included. If anyone’s interested let me know!
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InterMechanico
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Second that. I have had a Merc 150 FourStroke for 3 years without any issues. I regularly run from Port Moody to South Thormanby in all weather. Apparently it's literally the most durable engine available. Inlet has seen a total of one powerhead failure which happened in the first 30 minutes and was tracked to an issue with a miscalculated torque wrench in the assembly plant. I load down my SS Gambier 18.6 pretty good for cabin trips and it has zero issue pushing the boat.
Dropped the boat off yesterday at extreme Fiberglass to have the hole filled and some touchups in the transom. Seems to be rock solid so far which is good news! Pod is scheduled for next week. Ended up grabbing a 2014 Yamaha 150 which should push this boat great.
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it’s been a while since an update. Turns out my rot free boat was rotten. I guess wishful thinking! New transom and floors from Extreme Fiberglass are 90% done. Heading back in for the final touches. Just picked up today from E & D manufacturing with the new pod installed. Happy with how it turned out at a great price. Now to mount up engines, finish up the gel work and get rigging! 
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Corey_lax
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Nice and shiny. Better hit it with a flap disk before you get the first scratch on it lol
InterMechanico
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How is it with the 150??
Olde School
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That motor only has 1995cc. Really low torque as a result.
Pushes it well, I’ll be upgrading to a 200 at some point but this engine was to good to pass up and gets me going. We do a lot of weekend camping/fishing trips so usually loaded heavy on the way out and way back. If that wasn’t the case I’d be perfectly happy with the 150
we’ve been out using the boat all summer and it’s been fishy! Recently added the wash down and new countertop deleting the sink and burner. Acquired a nac 2 autopilot so that will be our next upgrade when she comes out of the water in a month or so.
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