Confessions of a sportfishing wannabe

I have so many stories of my personal screw-ups with boats - it's hard to pick out the most appropriate learning curve to share. And as GH and LH already mentioned: "Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment or lack of judgment."

Luckily, like smp747 I was able to think ahead and provide alternatives - and not panic when the sh*t happens.

On the getting ashore on a beach and anchoring topic - 2 related and applicable stories:

In many areas on this coast - there is deep water and narrow basins/anchorages. SH just related some of the problems inherent in this situation. The other issue is that many other boaters know this and as darkness happens - many boats can head to the same anchorage. Sometimes there is not enuff room - and only subprime and vulnerable open spots are left - if any. At one time before lawyers got involved - the Coast Guard used to put out mooring buoys to overcome this situation. Most of those buoys are now gone due to maintenance coast and liability issues. So what else can one do?

Carry a long line that can double as either a tow line or a "shore line". A shore line is used instead of and/or in addition to an anchor where the skipper knows of a deeper anchorage that a line can be strung up between 2 large trees on a shore - one tree on a point so that the "anchorage" is in the armpit of the point. This works well if one gets to the anchorage before dark and you have a small skiff to get ashore. Works well if you are using a cove for a home base for a few days. In sailboats - sometimes that happens when a storm brings winds from the wrong direction.

Well I was using one of these shorelines for an extended time and took the skiff to check out a creek. Once I was at the creek I just tied the skiff off to a tree with a long bow line and kicked it out into the deep part because I was only going to be "5 minutes" and the tide hadn't yet started to drop. Those with experience will likely already guess how this goes.

SPOILER ALERT: If you ever say in your head: "I'll only be 5 minutes" or any other small timeframe - kick yourself in the you know what and stop lying to yourself. It only gets you in trouble. As it did for me. I ended-up being like 45 minutes....

Got back to the skiff and the tide had dropped and the skiff found a 5 foot tall boulder and was sitting up on top of it. I knew that if I pushed the heavy aluminium skiff off of the boulder the bottom end would have been toast and maybe even take out the transom. Stranded. So know what to do?

Luckily I did think ahead and I had stashed a small inflatable in the bushes near where one end of the shore line was and left a tire over the side to make boarding easy. So I tromped thru the bush to the inflatable - along the line by hand to the side and in the boat. I waited until high tide @ 2am - get up and do the reverse and get back to the skiff - everyone safe and I only lost some sleep.

Lesson for me: Always think ahead and prep for what can go wrong - don't panic - and always leave a tire over the side when stopped. AND kick myself in the *** whenever I say "I will only be X min".

Another one wasn't my screw-up but instead by someone (a newbie) I knew. Got a call from CG - since they were out of VHF range - they had gone into a nice sand beach (with surf running) sightseeing and dropped the hook but got taken up onto the beach sideways and the tide dropped and left them high and dry. They would have been stuck there for some days until they payed $ for a tug - even if the boat survived. The problem with that is that the next high tide would be at night and would take them even higher up the beach. I ended up showing up at the rising tide just before dark on a rising tide and managed to tow them off the beach using along tow line I had.

The Lessons: sand is there often because the mud is washed out. How does that happen? - surf. Surf fluffs up the sand and washes out mud and is common in more outside facing beaches. Does an anchor hold in sand - nope! So dropping an anchor in front of a sand beach does nothing. And when your leg is up - you have no backup power and get taken onto the beach whether you want it or not. Once they got in front of the beach and pointed to the beach - they got taken into it. I am assuming that was terrifying for them. Most sand beaches are also shallow for a long ways out.

So how so how does one avoid getting taken onto a nice, sand beach? 2 Alternatives:

1/ Don't go there unless you are towing a skiff that you can instead use and anchored the bigger boat in another adjacent spot. And/or find the sheltered rockier, steeper beach that is adjacent to the sand beach and walk to the sand beach from that landing.
2/ Have a really long anchor line some hundreds of feet long and find the mud deeper in front of the sand beach and anchor there and use the skiff.

ALWAYS test the holding ability of your anchor ahead of any assumptions about how well that may work. Drop it and try to drag it. Pick it up and move to another anchorage if it doesn't hold.

Anyways there some lessons for the newbies :) Hope it helps
 
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So how so how does one avoid getting taken onto a nice, sand beach?

1/ Don't go there
You had the answer with your first alternative. Stay off the silly sand beach and use your boat for what it was meant to do. I have been on plenty of sand beaches, they are all pretty much the same.
 
the biggest piece of advice i can give is learn to read wind and tide guides. in my experience nothing can get you in trouble faster than disrespecting wind and tides; or what a tide change can do in different winds.

For example: you may be out there in a slight breeze and everyrhing seems fine. the wind has remained constant, but underneath your boat the tide has changed and is now going in the opposite direction. all of a sudden it’s rough as hell and you have miles of crappy water to pound thru to get home.

that’s my two cents
Here's another but new great resource that not everyone in the Salish Sea (SoG) prob knows about:


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Just when you think you’ve got boating figured out.....

Despite having 40+ years of boating under my belt I still managed to get a 30 foot boat stuck on the beach yesterday.

How? I anchored in 20 feet of water which is my normal anchoring depth but I threw out too much scope ( I was leaving the boat unattended so for some reason I thought a lot of scope was a good idea.....NOT! )

I used 3:1 scope just to be safe (50 feet of chain + 10 feet nylon line) —-I should have used 2:1 scope because if I had surveyed my surroundings and taken into consideration the dropping tide (it was heading into a minus 3 at low slack) I definitely would have been cured of using 3:1 scope.

I came back 5 hours later and she was high and dry on the beach.....the 3:1 scope had basically turned into 7:1 scope with the dropping tide and the boat drifted into the shallows and stuck . With thanks to the bearded Dude up above in the sky I had the good sense to raise up the twin Suzuki outboards before leaving the boat ——if I hadn’t ....well.... I don’t want to go there if they’d been in lowered position

I knew I’d have to wait out the tide change so I used that opportunity to scrape barnacles off my transducers and miscellaneous vegetable growth off the outboard bracket...

I then got creative: I inflated my raft, rowed over to the anchor, hauled it into the raft then rowed out to deeper water and dropped it. With a bit of tide change I then used the electric winch to haul me off the beach

Lesson learned on scope: there’s such a thing as using too much for the prevailing conditions
Kedging is useful in this sort of situation.Well played.
Must have been a horrible feeling when that wake rolled in.
 
Lots of great boating advice above.
It must have been mentioned already, but for Survival if all else fails and you are in the water waiting for hypothermia to lull you to sleep:
- get and ALWAYS wear a mustang type inflatable life vest (or other floater)
- have a hand held VHF radio in hand with GPS/DSC (and your MMSI inputted) The red emergency button will automatically broadcast where you are. You will have trained yourself on its use.
- keep a wetsuit on board, or better a survival suit but they are bulky and $$. Even a shorty wetsuit will vastly extend cold water survivability (also handy when you need to dive under to clear a prop etc)

I run a 30' twin diesel, w a tender, so am hopeful I'll never have to go overboard, but in rough conditions, just having my lifejacket on, the VHF clipped to my belt, and my wetsuit close by make a tricky situation a lot more comfortable
 
I meant to add something potentially important to the story of getting people towed off the sand beach in post #41 - that other experienced mariners that post on here (e.g. Squire, Sharphooks, BC Coast Pilot, Flashman, Loghauler, Gong Show and all the many others) and SAR specialists would likely agree with and have already thought of - the NUMBER 1 rule of assisting in any capacity for any marine incident is:

Don't get yourself into the same spot/risk/tragedy as the original vessel you are trying to assist.

So with that declaration in mind - there are some things to think of and do when assisting in such a situation...

1/ Be prepared with a long enuff tow rope (likely 100 feet or so) and maybe even rig up a bridle on both ends
2/ have good communications with the original boat operator and an assistant to handle the lines
3/ describe the plan and the risks to everyone beforehand and during the operations, and finally
4/ mitigate every risk you can think of until everyone is in a safe place

What I did in this particular situation (and these suggestions may be of assistance to any mariners and/or sportfishing-wannabees reading this post in the future) is to:

Get ready on the incoming tide before the boat starts to float and be prepped for the time on the higher tide when the beached boat should float by:

1/ Standing by close - but not getting too far into the beach and having the same thing happen (getting taken ashore by the surf)
2/ Standing by in water deep enuff to keep the leg down and not slamming the bottom in the surf, and pointed out into the surf so you have power and control
3/ using the wind/surf to take the end of the tow line into the grounded boat where someone in waist-deep water could retrieve that end. Don't get too close into the beach handing over the line. Poly floats - nylon does not. A float/bumper on the end of the rope may help. If the boat is ashore - it is easy access to the strongpoint/eye on the bow that trailered boats have can be used for towing. Those easy on/off carabiner-type clips/shackles are useful here. On the towboat end - a side line off the other stern cleat can make a bridle when attached to the tow rope on the opposite stern cleat and be adjusted in length to keep the tow pull strait and centered and keep the lines off the outboards.
4/ Once hooked up - keep a light pull on the beached boat until it starts to float - then give it. Getting the bow out into the waves and the beached boat sliding along the beach until it is deep enuff for them to drop the outboards/legs and start-up is crucial. Less weight (passengers out) until any heavy boat is at least turned into the waves is often helpful to get the boat turned if you are already towing hard and nothing is happening. If it instead a small, light boat - they might be able to do turn the bow out while they are on the beach beforehand using their legs and pushing on their bow by leaning their back/butts into the hull at the bow. This will all take communication, co-ordination & timing.
5/ Both boats need to be in a safer spot before the rope is disconnected. Again, this will take communication with the beached boat operator before and during the operation. The tow rope can get caught in their props if the operator guns their boat rather than letting the tow boat keep pressure on the line by pulling. Disconnecting can be dangerous for them with getting someone out on their bow, and it takes a few minutes to demobilize everything. Meanwhile both boats are drifting. The best option is to tow everyone still connected out into safe water - deeper and no surf - like around a corner or into an adjacent cove before letting go. Again - this takes communication & co-ordination.

Anyways - I hope these experiences and suggestions help someone sometime in the future.
 
31 years guiding west side of Haida Gwaii. Coast Guard RS and Seaspan 15 years. My whole life and even before it has been on the water, born from a German marine engineer and my Grandfather was a Mexican commercial fisherman. The best advice I can give is never think you're better than the water that can kill you in 1000 ways.
 
31 years guiding west side of Haida Gwaii. Coast Guard RS and Seaspan 15 years. My whole life and even before it has been on the water, born from a German marine engineer and my Grandfather was a Mexican commercial fisherman. The best advice I can give is never think you're better than the water that can kill you in 1000 ways.
Good Morning I was looking for some free Haida GwaI advice .trying to decide between Masset ( seems very hard to get decent Moorage, from what I can see )and the west side for a couple weeks of fishing and crabbing. July 17 this year. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
31 years guiding west side of Haida Gwaii. Coast Guard RS and Seaspan 15 years. My whole life and even before it has been on the water, born from a German marine engineer and my Grandfather was a Mexican commercial fisherman. The best advice I can give is never think you're better than the water that can kill you in 1000 ways.

The most sage advice I ever heard about maximizing safety on the water:

The sea is not quite so dangerous if you’re not in a hurry
 
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