Climate: LNG in B.C. vs Alberta tarsands

[OldBlackDog]

Sydney Sea levels rising at just 6.5cm per century. Peak-panic is behind us.

In The Australian Bob Carter compares the long term tide gauge record in Sydney with projections, and exposes the exorbitant cost of insurance for alarmist sea level forecasts. The good news is that it appears councils are waking up, and “peak-sea-level-panic” is behind us.

Sea-level alarmism has passed high tide and is at last declining. With luck, empirical sanity will soon prevail over modelling.

After years of research it turns out that talking about “global” sea level rise is nearly meaningless to real people who live in one place. The ocean rise varies locally from beach to beach from as little as 5cm per century to as much as 16cm per century. The variations are mostly due to different rates of land subsiding or rising.

More importantly, the rate of rise was either the same or was even faster before World War II when CO2 levels were “safe”.


Figure 5: Comparison of decadal rates of change over historical record. Analysis based on relative 20-y moving average water level time series. | Watson 2011

Fort Denison in Sydney has one of the longest running continuous records, starting in 1886, and finally local councils are realizing that they need to use the local data to plan ahead, not the IPCC’s one-size global fear index.

For example, measurements at Sydney between 2005 and 2014 show the tide gauge site is sinking at a rate of 0.49mm/yr, leaving just 0.16mm/yr of the overall relative rise as representing global sea-level change. Indeed, the rate of rise at Fort Denison, and globally, has been decreasing for the past 50 years.

Let’s cheer, Shoalhaven Shire Council shifted the sea-level-panic-index back a notch, rejecting the worst case IPCC scenario, settling for a slightly less scary one, and importantly, used the local Fort Denison record and ruled out “satellite or model-generated sea-level estimates until their accuracy is guaranteed”.

When councils plan for scenarios that never happen, the pointless insurance can cost some unlucky home owners tens of thousands — in one shire – $40,000 each.

Figures from RP Data property information specialists show that between 2011 and 2014, Eurobodalla property values suffered a 5.3 per cent loss in value compared with increases of 4.9 per cent and 7.3 per cent for neighbouring coastal shires that didn’t have equivalent restrictive sea-level policies. In the worst cases, individual properties have lost up to 52 per cent of their market value

In three years, individual Eurobodalla properties lost about $40,000 in value. With 22,000 properties in the shire, this represents a capital loss of $880m at a rate of $293m a year. This steady loss of rateable value means householders will face higher rate increases.

If you own a home near the sea, you might want to send this sort of information to your councilors:

Queensland Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney recently notified Moreton Bay Regional Council of his intention to direct it to amend its draft planning scheme “to remove any assumption about a theoretical projected sea level rise due to climate change from all and any provisions of the scheme”. Seeney said his intention was to use a statewide coastal mapping scheme “that will remove the ‘one size fits all’ approach that incorporates a mandatory 0.8m addition to historical data”.

At last, a responsible government has recognised that global average sea-level change is no more relevant to coastal management than average global temperatures are to the design of residential heating and cooling systems — local weather and local sea-level change is what matters.

REFERENCE:

P. J. Watson (2011) Is There Evidence Yet of Acceleration in Mean Sea Level Rise around Mainland Australia?. Journal of Coastal Research: Volume 27, Issue 2: pp. 368 – 377. doi: 10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-10-00141.1 [Link Abstract PDF ]

White, Neil J., Haigh, Ivan D., Church, John A., Koen, Terry, Watson, Christopher S., Pritchard, Tim R., Watson, Phil J., Burgette, Reed J., McInnes, Kathleen L., You, Zai-Jin, Zhang, Xuebin, Tregoning, Paul: (2014) Australian Sea Levels – Trends, Regional Variability and Influencing Factors, Earth Science Reviews, doi: 10.1016/j.earscirev.2014.05.011

 

[GLG]

Sydney Sea levels rising at just 6.5cm per century. Peak-panic is behind us.

In The Australian Bob Carter compares the long term tide gauge record in Sydney with projections, and exposes the exorbitant cost of insurance for alarmist sea level forecasts. The good news is that it appears councils are waking up, and “peak-sea-level-panic” is behind us.

Sea-level alarmism has passed high tide and is at last declining. With luck, empirical sanity will soon prevail over modelling.

Well there you go, lets change the name from Global sea level to Sydney sea level and start reporting this to the world. Does that make you feel safe now....
Should we replace Global Warming with Sydeny Warming and report that to the world? Could your team come up with a logical argument that makes any sense? didn't think so.... I guess we will have to endure with your nonsense.

 

[GLG]

The emergence of modern sea ice in the Arctic Ocean
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/The_emergence_of_modern_sea_ice_in_the_Arctic_Ocean_999.html

"We have not seen an ice free period in the Arctic Ocean for 2,6 million years. However, we may see it in our lifetime." says marine geologist Jochen Knies. In an international collaborative project, Knies has studied the historic emergence of the ice in the Arctic Ocean. The results are published in Nature Communications.
Four or five million years ago, the extent of sea ice cover in Arctic was much smaller than it is today. The maximum winter extent did not reach its current location until around 2.6 million years ago. This new knowledge can now be used to improve future climate models.
"We have not seen an ice free period in the Arctic Ocean for 2,6 million years. However, we may see it in our lifetime. The new IPCC report shows that the expanse of the Arctic ice cover has been quickly shrinking since the 70-ies, with 2012 being the year of the sea ice minimum", says marine geologist Jochen Knies.
He is a research scientist at CAGE and Geological Survey of Norway (NGU).
In an international collaborative project, Jochen Knies has studied the trend in the sea ice extent in the Arctic Ocean from 5.3 to 2.6 million years ago. That was the last time the Earth experienced a long period with a climate that, on average, was warm before cold ice ages began to alternate with mild interglacials.
Fossils reveal past sea ice extent
"When we studied molecules from certain plant fossils preserved in sediments at the bottom of the ocean, we found that large expanses of the Arctic Ocean were free of sea ice until four million years ago," Knies tells us.
"Later, the sea ice gradually expanded from the very high Arctic before reaching, for the first time, what we now see as the boundary of the winter ice around 2.6 million years ago ," says Jochen Knies.
Arctic Ocean likely to be completely free of sea ice
The research is of great interest because present-day global warming is strongly tied to a shrinking ice cover in the Arctic Ocean. By the end of the present century, the Arctic Ocean seems likely to be completely free of sea ice, especially in summer.
This may be of major significance for the entire planet 's climate system. Polar oceans, their temperature and salinity, are important drivers for world ocean circulation that distributes heat in the oceans. It also affects the heat distribution in the atmosphere. Trying to anticipate future changes in this finely tuned system, is a priority for climate researchers. For that they use climate modeling , which relies on good data.
"Our results can be used as a tool in climate modelling to show us what kind of climate we can expect at the turn of the next century. There is no doubt that this will be one of many tools the UN Climate Panel will make use of, too. The extent of the ice in the Arctic has always been very uncertain but, through this work, we show how the sea ice in the Arctic Ocean developed before all the land-based ice masses in the Northern Hemisphere were established," Jochen Knies explains.
Seabed samples from Spitsbergen
A deep well into the ocean floor northwest of Spitsbergen was the basis for this research. It was drilled as part of the International Ocean Drilling Programme, (IODP), to determine the age of the ocean-floor sediments in the area.
Then, by analysing the sediments for chemical fossils made by certain microscopic plants that live in sea ice and the surrounding oceans, Knies and his co-workers were able to fingerprint the environmental conditions as they changed through time. "One thing these layers of sediment enable us to do is to "read" when the sea ice reached that precise point," Jochen Knies tells us.
The scientists believe that the growth of sea ice until 2.6 million years ago was partly due to the considerable exhumation of the land masses in the circum-Arctic that occurred during this period. "Significant changes in altitudes above sea level in several parts of the Arctic, including Svalbard and Greenland, with build-up of ice on land, stimulated the distribution of the sea ice," Jochen Knies says.
"In addition, the opening of the Bering Strait between America and Russia and the closure of the Panama Canal in central America at the same time resulted in a huge supply of fresh water to the Arctic, which also led to the formation of more sea ice in the Arctic Ocean," Jochen Knies adds. All the large ice sheets in the Northern Hemisphere were formed around 2.6 million years ago.
International effort
Scientists at CAGE, UiT The Arctic University of Norway, NGU, University of Plymouth, Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona, Stellenbosch University in South Africa and Institucio Catalana de Recerca i Estudis Avancats in Barcelona have collaborated in this work.

Reference paper....
http://www.nature.com/articles/ncom...ncDXVGInLY1JTq2ebA33WeNYwnM5lQfvVeTg2u2RdcH_E

 

[GLG]

These upbeat doomsayers — maybe a majority of the 8,000 in attendance from 196 participating countries — had little else to cling to. In the Arctic, the ice cover is now greater than it’s been over the average of the last 15 years.

And in other news OBD found a website that think's they know better then those scientist....... who are we to trust? Someone that woke up this morning to see snow out their window and come to the conclusion that Global Warming is a hoax... or..... An international group of trained scientists after years of field work and careful study of the evidence produce a peer reviewed paper in one of the most prestigious science journals. Yea I'll put my trust with science and not some denier that gave up critical thinking long ago.

"We have not seen an ice free period in the Arctic Ocean for 2,6 million years. However, we may see it in our lifetime." says marine geologist Jochen Knies.

 

[GLG]

[h=1]Local State of Emergency LIFTED[/h]December 12, 2014


The Local State of Emergency in the City of Courtenay has been LIFTED!
According to provincial staff, this flood was a one-in-100 year event, and was the largest flow in recorded history in the Puntledge River – that’s over 51 years of recorded data.
Over the next couple of weeks we will be moving into the recovery period. We will continue to provide regular updates over the coming weeks.
On behalf of all of us at the City of Courtenay, we thank the public for your patience and support during this difficult time. We also thank all of the other agencies involved in the response effort.

So OBD who is going to pay for this? I'll give you a hint.... Tax payers in our area. So much for CO2 is plant food and good for us....

 

[OldBlackDog]

Moving the goalposts – has Professor Wadhams Explained His Now Changed ‘ice-free’ Arctic Prediction?

Over the past few years the Arctic expert, Professor Peter Wadhams, has strongly predicted an ‘ice-free’ Arctic no later than 2016. Late this year he changed it to 2020 without apparently giving an explanation.

wadhams-arctic-melting-time-bomb


Peter Wadhams is a Professor of Ocean Physics at the University of Cambridge and an expert on Arctic sea ice and waves. He has studied the Arctic since 1970. In the last few years he has predicted that the Arctic will be ‘ice-free’ no later than September 2016. (It is generally accepted that an ‘ice-free’ Arctic is 1 million km2 or less, as it is very difficult to melt the thick multi-year ice in the Canadian Archipelago).

Late this year Prof. Wadhams changed his prediction of an ice-free Arctic to 2020.

Q) Has Professor Wadhams given the reason for his changed prediction? As a ‘denier’ I just want to know so that I can have a better understanding of when we are likely to see an ‘ice-free’ Arctic.
Below are his repeated predictions of an ‘ice-free’ Arctic no later than 2016.

Daily Telegraph – 8 November 2011
Arctic sea ice ‘to melt by 2015′
Dr Maslowski’s model, along with his claim that the Arctic sea ice is in a “death spiral”, were controversial but Prof Wadhams, a leading authority on the polar regions, said the calculations had him “pretty much persuaded.”
Prof Wadhams said: “His [model] is the most extreme but he is also the best modeller around.
“It is really showing the fall-off in ice volume is so fast that it is going to bring us to zero very quickly. 2015 is a very serious prediction and I think I am pretty much persuaded that that’s when it will happen.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...g/8877491/Arctic-sea-ice-to-melt-by-2015.html
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BBC News – 27 August 2012
Professor Peter Wadhams, from Cambridge University, told BBC News: “A number of scientists who have actually been working with sea ice measurement had predicted some years ago that the retreat would accelerate and that the summer Arctic would become ice-free by 2015 or 2016.
“I was one of those scientists – and of course bore my share of ridicule for daring to make such an alarmist prediction.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-19393075
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Guardian – 17 September 2012
Arctic expert predicts final collapse of sea ice within four years
“This collapse, I predicted would occur in 2015-16 at which time the summer Arctic (August to September) would become ice-free. The final collapse towards that state is now happening and will probably be complete by those dates”.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/sep/17/arctic-collapse-sea-ice
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Financial Times Magazine – 2 August 2013
“It could even be this year or next year but not later than 2015 there won’t be any ice in the Arctic in the summer,” he said, pulling out a battered laptop to show a diagram explaining his calculations, which he calls “the Arctic death spiral.
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The Scotsman – 12 September 2013
Arctic sea ice will vanish within three years, says expert
“The entire ice cover is now on the point of collapse.
“The extra open water already created by the retreating ice allows bigger waves to be generated by storms, which are sweeping away the surviving ice. It is truly the case that it will be all gone by 2015. The consequences are enormous and represent a huge boost to global warming.”
http://www.scotsman.com/news/enviro...nish-within-three-years-says-expert-1-2493681
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Arctic News – June 27, 2012
My own view of what will happen is: 1. Summer sea ice disappears, except perhaps for small multiyear remnant north of Greenland and Ellesmere Island, by 2015-16. 2. By 2020 the ice free season lasts at least a month and by 2030 has extended to 3 months…..
http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2012/06/when-sea-ice-is-gone

[Q] WORONCZUK: And, Peter, what’s your take? Do you think that we’ve already passed the point of no return in terms of controlling polar ice cap melting?
[A] WADHAMS: Yes, I think we have. A few years ago, I predicted that the summer sea ice–that’s the September minimum–would go to zero by about 2015. And at that stage, it was only really one model that agreed with me. My prediction was based on observations from satellites and from measurements from submarines of ice thickness, which I’ve been doing from British subs, and Americans have been doing the same from American subs. And the trend was so clear and so definite that it would go to zero by 2015 that I felt it was safe to make that prediction, and I still think it is, because next year, although this year we don’t expect things to retreat much further than last, next year will be an El Niño year, which is a warmer year, and I think it will go to zero.

I knew earlier this year he would change his mind. I was just waiting for the reason he would give, but I can’t find it.

 

[OldBlackDog]

Really? what has this got to do with global warming brought on by MAN?
Show us how you came to that conclusion.
King tide, caused by moon?
Dam?
Logging the crap out of the watershed?
People living in the tidal areas?
None of those apply, right?

[h=1]Local State of Emergency LIFTED[/h]December 12, 2014


The Local State of Emergency in the City of Courtenay has been LIFTED!
According to provincial staff, this flood was a one-in-100 year event, and was the largest flow in recorded history in the Puntledge River – that’s over 51 years of recorded data.
Over the next couple of weeks we will be moving into the recovery period. We will continue to provide regular updates over the coming weeks.
On behalf of all of us at the City of Courtenay, we thank the public for your patience and support during this difficult time.w We also thank all of the other agencies involved in the response effort.

So OBD who is going to pay for this? I'll give you a hint.... Tax payers in our area. So much for CO2 is plant food and good for us....

 

[OldBlackDog]

“Now Gore’s Failure Is Complete”
Climate experts invented the term “warming hiatus.” A few months later they decided that wasn’t a good idea politically, so now they pretend it doesn’t exist.

Any “good news” like normal Arctic sea ice or the warming hiatus is considered bad news, because it threatens their funding and agenda.

 

[GLG]

Really? what has this got to do with global warming brought on by MAN?
Show us how you came to that conclusion.
King tide, caused by moon?
Dam?
Logging the crap out of the watershed?
People living in the tidal areas?
None of those apply, right?

Make an official complaint to the provincial government with your denial theory...

According to provincial staff, this flood was a one-in-100 year event, and was the largest flow in recorded history in the Puntledge River – that’s over 51 years of recorded data.

Due let us know what they tell you. Until then you ideas are irrelevant. King tide is on the 24 or 25 cant remember, this tide was 1 foot short. Besides it has nothing to do with the king tide, except in your own mind.... Unless you think the the volume of water flowing in the Puntledge was some how added to by the ocean.... Again you have no idea what your talking about... Typical... Perhaps go to you denial blasphemer and research volume and flow.

 

[GLG]

“Now Gore’s Failure Is Complete”
Climate experts invented the term “warming hiatus.” A few months later they decided that wasn’t a good idea politically, so now they pretend it doesn’t exist.

Any “good news” like normal Arctic sea ice or the warming hiatus is considered bad news, because it threatens their funding and agenda.

Again utter nonsense coming out of you, your side invented the "hiatus" with your cherry picking of data. It was some denial reporter at the UK daily mail. You seem to have a case of confabulation. Your good news from the arctic is what? The ice is there and not melted away this winter..... You think things are back to normal? Sad when men lose the critical thinking..... and the old conspiracy of losing funding is why they cheat with their data so they can go back to arctic for another year of tanning at the beach with the black flies and all.

Look at the data from the arctic and let us know where your good news is...
https://sites.google.com/site/arctischepinguin/home/piomas

added this FYI OBD

 

[OldBlackDog]

You are saying that this is a Global warming caused by man?
That this was forseen by the IPPC?

Nothing to do with the logging?
nothing to do with the water control by hydro?
Nothing to do wih king tides and wind?
Nothing to do with mans living in the tidal areas?


Sad.

Make an official complaint to the provincial government with your denial theory...

Due let us know what they tell you. Until then you ideas are irrelevant. King tide is on the 24 or 25 cant remember, this tide was 1 foot short. Besides it has nothing to do with the king tide, except in your own mind.... Unless you think the the volume of water flowing in the Puntledge was some how added to by the ocean.... Again you have no idea what your talking about... Typical... Perhaps go to you denial blasphemer and research volume and flow.

 

[GLG]

Moving the goalposts – has Professor Wadhams Explained His Now Changed ‘ice-free’ Arctic Prediction?

Over the past few years the Arctic expert, Professor Peter Wadhams, has strongly predicted an ‘ice-free’ Arctic no later than 2016. Late this year he changed it to 2020 without apparently giving an explanation.

wadhams-arctic-melting-time-bomb

I knew earlier this year he would change his mind. I was just waiting for the reason he would give, but I can’t find it.

Do you know how silly this is? Let me put it this way so you understand...

You go to the doctor and he tell you, you have six months to live.
You don't like that so you go to another and he tells you eight months to live.
You go to the next and he says nine months.
You sure don't like any of those numbers so you repeat over and over and find many different numbers but the best you can find is one that say's you have 1 year to live. Most sane people would get their affairs in order but for some reason you think that since they all came up with different dates therefore it's not true and you will live a normal life......
What happened to your critical thinking?
I just posted a current science paper that told us the Arctic has never seen an ice free period in 2.6 million years..... Do you not get it..... Who cares if it's ice free in 2016 or 2030 or 2050 for that matter... 2.6 million years..... You have 6 to 12 months to live, get your house in order, not pretend things are fine and you will live a normal life.

 

[OldBlackDog]

Cherry picking, really?
You really saying that site is not reputable?

Or did you not like this?

Climate experts invented the term “warming hiatus.” A few months later they decided that wasn’t a good idea politically, so now they pretend it doesn’t exist.

Any “good news” like normal Arctic sea ice or the warming hiatus is considered bad news, because it threatens their funding and agenda.

Again utter nonsense coming out of you, your side invented the "hiatus" with your cherry picking of data. It was some denial reporter at the UK daily mail. You seem to have a case of confabulation. Your good news from the arctic is what? The ice is there and not melted away this winter..... You think things are back to normal? Sad when men lose the critical thinking..... and the old conspiracy of losing funding is why they cheat with their data so they can go back to arctic for another year of tanning at the beach with the black flies and all.

Look at the data from the arctic and let us know where your good news is...
https://sites.google.com/site/arctischepinguin/home/piomas

added this FYI OBD

 

[GLG]

You are saying that this is a Global warming caused by man?
That this was forseen by the IPPC?

Nothing to do with the logging?
nothing to do with the water control by hydro?
Nothing to do wih king tides and wind?
Nothing to do with mans living in the tidal areas?


Sad.

Are you saying it's part of the global hoax that BC Hydro is in on it and the City of Courtenay is also in on it. The Emergency Response Team are in on it and they did it to not lose their funding? They got to them too I guess.... or perhaps it rained like a sob and the lake filled too fast and they did a hell of a job diverting disaster.... Are you not watching the local news and not listening to the local radio? Do you not read the local paper and see what is going on? Or do you just surf the Denial Biosphere searching for a new theory that tells you that there is no global warming and your are safe and nothing to see outside and stay home. Keep warm and turn up your natural gas fireplace. It's all good were from the Government of Canada and were here to protect you.....

 

[OldBlackDog]

You missed the point.
Fort Denison in Sydney has one of the longest running continuous records, starting in 1886, and finally local councils are realizing that they need to use the local data to plan ahead, not the IPCC’s one-size global fear index.

For example, measurements at Sydney between 2005 and 2014 show the tide gauge site is sinking at a rate of 0.49mm/yr, leaving just 0.16mm/yr of the overall relative rise as representing global sea-level change. Indeed, the rate of rise at Fort Denison, and globally, has been decreasing for the past 50 years
Let’s cheer, Shoalhaven Shire Council shifted the sea-level-panic-index back a notch, rejecting the worst case IPCC scenario, settling for a slightly less scary one, and importantly, used the local Fort Denison record and ruled out “satellite or model-generated sea-level estimates until their accuracy is guaranteed”.

Well there you go, lets change the name from Global sea level to Sydney sea level and start reporting this to the world. Does that make you feel safe now....
Should we replace Global Warming with Sydeny Warming and report that to the world? Could your team come up with a logical argument that makes any sense? didn't think so.... I guess we will have to endure with your nonsense.

 

[OldBlackDog]

I am saying it has everything to do with man and nothing to do with man made global warming
Your line if you look back is it is just weather.
Here look at this, might help you understand.
http://www.tsolumriver.org/pictures/CV Echo - Mar 29, 2011 Flood study.pdf

Are you saying it's part of the global hoax that BC Hydro is in on it and the City of Courtenay is also in on it. The Emergency Response Team are in on it and they did it to not lose their funding? They got to them too I guess.... or perhaps it rained like a sob and the lake filled too fast and they did a hell of a job diverting disaster.... Are you not watching the local news and not listening to the local radio? Do you not read the local paper and see what is going on? Or do you just surf the Denial Biosphere searching for a new theory that tells you that there is no global warming and your are safe and nothing to see outside and stay home. Keep warm and turn up your natural gas fireplace. It's all good were from the Government of Canada and were here to protect you.....

 

[GLG]

You missed the point.
Fort Denison in Sydney has one of the longest running continuous records, starting in 1886, and finally local councils are realizing that they need to use the local data to plan ahead, not the IPCC’s one-size global fear index.

For example, measurements at Sydney between 2005 and 2014 show the tide gauge site is sinking at a rate of 0.49mm/yr, leaving just 0.16mm/yr of the overall relative rise as representing global sea-level change. Indeed, the rate of rise at Fort Denison, and globally, has been decreasing for the past 50 years
Let’s cheer, Shoalhaven Shire Council shifted the sea-level-panic-index back a notch, rejecting the worst case IPCC scenario, settling for a slightly less scary one, and importantly, used the local Fort Denison record and ruled out “satellite or model-generated sea-level estimates until their accuracy is guaranteed”.

No I did not miss your point... your point is to cast doubt as to the reality of man made global warming..... it's always your point..... It never changes. Just like the sun will come up in the morning you will find something on the internet to cast doubt that it's true. Wishing and hoping that the problem will go away will not make it so. You keep trying over and over and I'll mock you team at ever turn or challenge your nonsense over and over till you stop. It's total up to you. When you do stop I will keep putting out what I feel is real news on the problem because shinning a light on it is the only way to save what I hold dear.

If you want an honest discussion on real science, then I will gladly listen and let you know what I think. Till then It's hard to tell what is fact from fiction that you post up. 99% fiction is what I see.

 

[OldBlackDog]

Courtenay Floods Over – No More Flooding Anticipated

Posted on November 17, 2009 by ComoxValleyGuide — 1 Comment ↓
The flooding in Courtenay has subsided, and there is no immediate risk for further floods. The following is an excerpt from the City of Courtenay website:

All roads closed on November 16, 2009 by flooding are now open.

Flows in the Puntledge, Courtenay, Tsolum and Browns River have dropped significantly since yesterday, and we are not anticipating any significant flooding at this time.

BC Hydro continues to manage flows into the Puntledge River at the Comox Dam.

River levels are being monitored both by the City and BC Hydro, and updates will be provided on this website and through local media.

The Comox Valley Emergency Program Coordinator is contacting the Provincial Emergency Program to determine if Disaster Financial Assistance will be available.


Tagged with: courtenay, flooding, news
Posted in Uncategorized

No I did not miss your point... your point is to cast doubt as to the reality of man made global warming..... it's always your point..... It never changes. Just like the sun will come up in the morning you will find something on the internet to cast doubt that it's true. Wishing and hoping that the problem will go away will not make it so. You keep trying over and over and I'll mock you team at ever turn or challenge your nonsense over and over till you stop. It's total up to you. When you do stop I will keep putting out what I feel is real news on the problem because shinning a light on it is the only way to save what I hold dear.

If you want an honest discussion on real science, then I will gladly listen and let you know what I think. Till then It's hard to tell what is fact from fiction that you post up. 99% fiction is what I see.

 

[OldBlackDog]

No, you missed it. Real science as you say tops all.
Real science is shown, you cannot believe it.
Tidal guage is not wrong. IPPC projections not so much.

No I did not miss your point... your point is to cast doubt as to the reality of man made global warming..... it's always your point..... It never changes. Just like the sun will come up in the morning you will find something on the internet to cast doubt that it's true. Wishing and hoping that the problem will go away will not make it so. You keep trying over and over and I'll mock you team at ever turn or challenge your nonsense over and over till you stop. It's total up to you. When you do stop I will keep putting out what I feel is real news on the problem because shinning a light on it is the only way to save what I hold dear.

If you want an honest discussion on real science, then I will gladly listen and let you know what I think. Till then It's hard to tell what is fact from fiction that you post up. 99% fiction is what I see.

 

[OldBlackDog]

This will get you up to date on floods in the valley.

You will note they had lots of them.
Nothing to do with man made global warming though.


http://www.comoxvalleyrd.ca/assets/Governance/Bylaws/Planning/SchedB_DesignBrief.pdf