Chapman Creek Hatchery Returns

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Just got an e-mail from the Sunshine Coast Salmonid Enhancement Program regarding the Coho returns this year. They are selling Coho by the pound due to larger than expected returns.

At least it's some good news!! :)
 
What do you mean "by the pound"? Are they selling to the public? All sales of surplus hatchery fish are supposed to be sold under a DFO ESSR permit, and usually through a bidding process... is that what they have?
But that aside-- good to hear they have fish.




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It's to the public... I haven't personally bought any though.
 
$1.50 is a member price (donation of $25 to the hatchery to be a member) $2 a pound non-member

The hatchery isn't too far from the strait, so I would think they'd be in good condition.
 
That's interesting, I haven't heard of that before, hatcheries selling fish. Are these fish that have already spawned / been milked? Or do they hit a dam or something and nowhere to go? (like Goldstream)

$2/pound is a lot cheaper than gas and gear... ;)

And yes, really good to hear of a good return...I have my fingers crossed for Sooke, Nitnat, and San Juan.

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Hate to say Father lives there and just bought 4 with my Mom on hand. Chrome bullets, live......Couldn't ask for cleaner fish or fresher fish. I don't like the idea but it's a great way for the hatchery to make money that the goverment doesnt give.
 
What a shame with certain creeks rivers low wouldnt it make more sense to milk and egg removal and send them to other hatcheries?????

Seem like a bit of waste to me but I really dont know the ins and outs to the whole hatchery thing but good on them to generate money now what we really should do is the derbys we are in (juan de fuca/bite me/ frostbite plus many more) that we donate to the pacific salomon society we really should stop it!!!!!why you ask!!!!!!

WHY not donate it to the hatcheries here in OUR own backyard the sooke/esquimalt/goldstream/nitnat/saun juan etc then we know the money is going local not somewhere else!!!!!!!!!

Just my 2 cents for the day!!!!!!!!!!


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Yeah seems pretty ridiculas to me as well some quick cash over the gerneral well being of a improving system?
A joke IMO and I know everything needs $$ to run but thats low
 
Wolf; it's not that easy and often useless to ship salmon eggs far from their origin. There is a certain genetical imprint that makes it useless to transfer salmon to completely different areas - for instant the Sooke River Hatchery found out that it can only use eggs from Nitinat and nowhere from past Sidney...I guess most of the fish would get lost when they have to figure out where to go for spawning. And for such low return rates it's not worth the effort and you better leave the eggs where they belong...

Regarding the Derby's you are absolutely right. Instead of giving $25,000 as top prize - how about $5k top prize and $20,000 to the Sooke Hatchery - or Goldstream or Nitinat or... The Consultant's Fishing Derby has long realized that and supports yearly the Sooke hatchery. Next year you should participate there Wolf!
 
Wonder if they could just close the access to the hatchery off to the fish and let them spawn in the creek. I don't think there is much of a wild run left there, if at all.
 
quote: Aside from a bit of cash for the hatchery who benefits?

Kelly-- while this the first volunteer program that I know of to have sales directly to the public from fish they raised , as anglers we did have an opportunity to at least C&R them before they hit the creek. Maybe one of the coho I killed in area 11 this year was from Chapman Creek? -- who knows.

But that being said-- until someone from the hatchery cares to fully explain just how it works, I will continue to be skeptical that this is the right way to go. Anyone associated with Chapman Creek hatchery able to give us more info?




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Your right they are volunteers so im sure there must be more benefits than damage from selling fish. They wouldnt want to sell a their hard earned work. That said i wonder if they had to get permission from somewhere to sell to public?
 
Just got this email from the hatchery:


There are no more Coho available for sale at this time.

Please call the hatchery at 885-4136 to check availability before coming down to buy fish in the weeks to come.
 
I emailed them for more info on how this all works, but no response. I'm curious to know what the deal is with these fish.
 
Hey Guys-- just had a good conversation with the hatchery manager that left me very impressed with thier program. First-- the sale of surplus coho IS under the authorization of a DFO "ESSR" permit. It allows them to sell surplus fish to augment thier budget of $130K per year. Most of the funding comes from the community-- in recent years the small DFO contribution has been cut so that they have no choice to to use all methods at thier means to raise operational funds. The money allows them to culture 1.5 million fish-- coho, chum, chinook, cutthroat and steelhead. (Not sure if they are doing pinks this year)

This fall they had a very good early coho run early into Chapman Creek. They are holding 110 fish for early broodstock. Some were sold ... but most went up the creek and anglers have been fishing for them since they hit the creek. There will be no more coho sales until the next big bump of fish enters thier trap and they have captured a portion of the middle timing run. Likewise on the late fish. They dont chase the fish in the creek-- they are swim-ins into the hatchery. Chapman Creek is very limited in natural spawning and rearing area.. its only accessible to salmon for 3 miles. Putting more fish up the river will not make more fish-- especially since the creek is one of the major community water supplies in the area. During the summmer, its down to a trickle..... hence the need for a hatchery.

The hatchery manager has suggested that if anyone has further questions about thier program , to drop in for a tour. Its thier busy season, so dont expect too much in the way of returned emails And they always are looking for area volunteers (or rich doners too!!!)

What they are doing with the fish sales is different from a lot of the other volunteer habitat and enhancement programs. But is is a common thing for the larger DFO hatcheries to deal with surplus returns to the hatchery in this manner. Nice to see a bunch of volunteers working the system to the advantage of the resource.





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Thanks CL for posting the info. (The fellow called me back too and left a message too)

Quite informative and a relief to know it's all good. I figured there had to be some reasonable story behind it. I'm impressed with their program too.

Sooke can use some rich donors too... ;)

I find it amazing and unbelievable that the government does not put more effort (funding) into preserving and developing salmon stocks. Such a huge economic and ecological driver, and such a huge return on investment -- a few small hatcheries producing thousands or millions of fish. Seems a no brainer...but I guess we're talking government, so hold that thought.
 
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