Challenging DFO Ticket- anyone done it?

[Haverodwilltravel]

Having a day to reflect on things. I think it was/is a good idea to challenge every ticket that the DFO issues if you think you have a chance of beating it. It makes the DFO work for the payment. Thinking about it, the officer has to prepare all of the Discovery material. That likely takes the better part of a half day. Typed reports, hand written notes, photos, regulations, copies of the infraction, copies of entries into their xxxx system, and typed Will Say statement.They then have to scan all of that information into the Titan secure server system and send it to Crown Counsel for review. I suspect Crown Counsel contacts the DFO officer (not sure on this part) as the Crown seemed to understand the facts very well. Then, the court system needs to manage and book a date for the pre-trial. It’s a fair bit of work effort by them to get to a pre-trial hearing. Once the pre-trial date is set, you can pay the fine, if you decide to, with zero increase in the cost.

I don’t agree with vengeance………normally. But I suspect a lot of people just pay. Delaying payment by pleading not guilty within the first 30 days of receipt of the ticket just means you can pay later and make the bastards work for payment. Like “Ole Vic” used to say…….”Just one mans view”.

Yes, the court system is a mill and we are the “grain”. If you haven’t noticed yet, the government doesn’t want us fishing. They have weaponized the courts and the laws against us. If you have any doubt, look at all the government policies aimed against us. DRIPA.

 

[ryanonthevedder]

Yes, the court system is a mill and we are the “grain”. If you haven’t noticed yet, the government doesn’t want us fishing. They have weaponized the courts and the laws against us. If you have any doubt, look at all the government policies aimed against us. DRIPA.

In 2023 Tashi Seafood was fined $40k for possession of undersized crab.

This time DFO chose not to go after the boat or its license holder.

When it happened in 2018 they had no problem publishing the deets because... the license holder was vietnamise.

The 2023 captain was scrubbed from the internet but I remember the initial reports.

 

[Samnjoe]

DFO enemy of fish and fishermen. Needs to be a T shirt

 

[wolf]

Well can tell you there is a pending case in our local courts we will see where it goes as there is some serious charges put forth..I WILL not commnet who as thats not right... but it not good

 

[Srthomas75]

Well can tell you there is a pending case in our local courts we will see where it goes as there is some serious charges put forth..I WILL not commnet who as thats not right... but it not good

Any info on the type of infraction??

 

[Aces]

Having a day to reflect on things. I think it was/is a good idea to challenge every ticket that the DFO issues if you think you have a chance of beating it. It makes the DFO work for the payment. Thinking about it, the officer has to prepare all of the Discovery material. That likely takes the better part of a half day. Typed reports, hand written notes, photos, regulations, copies of the infraction, copies of entries into their xxxx system, and typed Will Say statement.They then have to scan all of that information into the Titan secure server system and send it to Crown Counsel for review. I suspect Crown Counsel contacts the DFO officer (not sure on this part) as the Crown seemed to understand the facts very well. Then, the court system needs to manage and book a date for the pre-trial. It’s a fair bit of work effort by them to get to a pre-trial hearing. Once the pre-trial date is set, you can pay the fine, if you decide to, with zero increase in the cost.

I don’t agree with vengeance………normally. But I suspect a lot of people just pay. Delaying payment by pleading not guilty within the first 30 days of receipt of the ticket just means you can pay later and make the bastards work for payment. Like “Ole Vic” used to say…….”Just one mans view”.

I also made them go to court over a chintzy charge just to make them work for it. Figured I would make them work for it. Made me feel a bit better about it

 

[Haverodwilltravel]

In 2023 Tashi Seafood was fined $40k for possession of undersized crab.

This time DFO chose not to go after the boat or its license holder.

When it happened in 2018 they had no problem publishing the deets because... the license holder was vietnamise.

The 2023 captain was scrubbed from the internet but I remember the initial reports.

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[Paperslayer]

I feel for you. Sounds like total BS. FWIW. I got a cheap cordless dremel off Temu and it takes off barbs completely. I have heard of others being challenged by over zealous and arbitrary fish cops and just wanted to stay out of their crosshairs

 

[Squire]

I feel for you. Sounds like total BS. FWIW. I got a cheap cordless dremel off Temu and it takes off barbs completely. I have heard of others being challenged by over zealous and arbitrary fish cops and just wanted to stay out of their crosshairs

That’s a great idea; pinching even with heavy pliers doesn’t always get the barb tight against the inside shaft of the hook and sometimes the barb beaks off, leaving a bit of a bump with a rough edge. I’ve started pinching my barbs at home by placing the hook around a smooth vertical cylinder (the repositioning screws on my bench vice work well) and tapping the hook from the outside with a small hammer. I can always get the barb tip tight to the shaft this way and the rare times the barb breaks off I file the bump down smooth.