BUSTED!

[victoriaboater]

I am a familiar with the different technologies. You could shore mount a camera with a moderate zoom lens and fit it with a laser. The laser can be easily suited to report a distance of an object and subsequently its location. This way boats could be monitored for location within a few meters. but there would definitely be limitations. Just thinking about fishing in closed areas like Swiftsure. So it would be easy to see if someone is there and send out a boat. All that said its easily possible. But is it likely? I don't know if DFO is quite that savvy. The coast guard on the other hand can do alot from the air.

 

[mason.jar]

Shake your heads all you want, but the technology does exist and it is affordable. The following is a link to one of many solutions that are being used through out North America today. Vancouver Island is the pilot project for remote monitoring, there are numerous hotspot sites already being monitored daily on both fresh and saltwater. Believe me or not. Mason

http://www.unitedvisionsolutions.com/products.htm

[www.savebcsalmon.ca]

 

[The Fish Assassin]

During a Native food Fishery a Seine boat that was hired by a Band and run by a Non-Native offloaded only a small portion of their catch, then set out from French Creek. DFO was notified and they started traking the vessel. Even with the most advanced equipment available they still LOST the vessel.

Take only what you need.

 

[mason.jar]

The initiative was started in 2003 and is a shared resource between the following entities. Nanaimo's port and leading areas are live and fully monitored via long range remote controlled video. Mason

* Canada Customs and Revenue Agency
* Canadian Security and Intelligence Service
* Department of Citizenship and Immigration
* Department of Fisheries and Oceans
* Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
* Department of Justice
* Department of National Defence
* Royal Canadian Mounted Police
* Solicitor General of Canada


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[banger17]

last time i checked, there are no cameras (especially DFO) that can spot your vessel number from 10 miles away. like it is said before... it comes down to $$$. ohh yaj, and whats this about beer in my boat? they see me drinking a tin or two fo lucky.. are they going to arrest me at the launch for DUI?

 

[mason.jar]

"Government of Canada Announces Up to $172.5 Million in New Marine Security Projects"

* Canada Customs and Revenue Agency
* Canadian Security and Intelligence Service
* Department of Citizenship and Immigration
* Department of Fisheries and Oceans
* Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
* Department of Justice
* Department of National Defence
* Royal Canadian Mounted Police
* Solicitor General of Canada

Part of the network is a shared web based resource using remote controlled long range video cameras. DFO has an office in Nanaimo, one of many monitoring stations throughout BC and Canada. They are not the only ones using this network. Mason

[www.savebcsalmon.ca]

 

[mason.jar]

The one thing that I failed to add was the right to privacy and if it is being broken. My personal view is that this is an observation, so is it then legal to fine or arrest? Or is it a point where the officer must now attend and observe in person. These tools are being used to locate, whether or not the observations are being used as legally intended is another conversation. If they are recording vast amounts of the public, then that is a violation of the privacy act. How ever if the tool is being used to monitor a known closed area and an angler is clearly breaking the law by entering and fishing within the closed area, and is being observed via long range camera in the area, would he not then be busted? Similarly whereby a shoplifter would be observed via surveillance camera and then detained and arrested if in fact the individual was observed doing so? This program is a joint surveillance system that is accessed via web interface. There have been numerous contracts awarded to various companies under this program. It is part of the post 9/11 security beef up and the benefits are shared between policing entities as listed previously. The system has more to do with monitoring ships entering ports, but is available to any policing agency. Mason

[www.savebcsalmon.ca]

 

[ratherbefishing]

Whether they do nor do not utilize this technology, if you are following the rules & regulations then you have nothing to worry about. On the other hand, if you are out there breaking the law then you deserve to get caught.

 

[Rum Buddies]

quote:New Marine Security Projects"

Marine security does not translate into dfo enforcement. Its simply a bunch of bs and wasted money to make it look like our ports are secure for the olympics, you know terrorists and boogey men.

Sure DFO theoretically could have access to the equipement but the fact that so many agencies also have access proves the point that it won't be used much or at all by DFO.

Do you really think DFO is going to use laser guided cameras to watch some idiot in a tinny take a couple of rockfish from an RCA? Get real

 

[mason.jar]

LOL, they are not actually laser guided, however they are monitoring from DFO Nanaimo. They are using the tools to locate and in many cases where there is not enough people to monitor they put their efforts into other areas. It is actually the most cost effective way of creating intervention and compliance. Especially since it was all agencies and the Fed footing the bill for a shared system. One of the camera contracts was awarded to a BC firm who has since been bought by Bosch. There are many others and there will be many more. Mason

[www.savebcsalmon.ca]

 

[spring time]

they all ready have a jet that goes up and down the coast for commercial boats and the cameras on that are awesome

 

[Brisco]

I've been told that the U.S. and Canadian borders have the ability to aim a mike at your car and listen to you talking. [:I]

 

[yammy5]

This seems pretty unlikely to say the least. 'And if something like this was ever to be implemented, DFO would release this information to the public. Not to mention, most lawyers can tear apart video evidence unless the infraction is glaringly obvious and is without doubt (and surprisingly this detail can be difficult to capture). I'm also curious....if they are monitoring 300 or 400 fisherman at a time, where are the hundreds of staff and monitors required to complete this task?? Yeah, not happening.

 

[islandboy]

I have been chuckling as I read this thread. For a group dedicated to conservation there seems to be an extraordinary concern about "getting caught". [?]

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[yammy5]

Funny but I think you've mis-interpreted the responses Islandboy. I for one, am only responding to a ridiculous proposition. Most of us support conservation and enforcement but this is just silly. If we actually ARE being watched, I pity the bugger that sat there all Sunday watching me get skunked. [^]

 

[Dogbreath]

quote:Originally posted by yammy5

Funny but I think you've mis-interpreted the responses Islandboy. I for one, am only responding to a ridiculous proposition. Most of us support conservation and enforcement but this is just silly. If we actually ARE being watched, I pity the bugger that sat there all Sunday watching me get skunked. [^]

Yeah me too, I just don't like to see people spreading ignorant know nothing bull around.

And like Yammy anyone watching me, whether on the water with powerful hidden cameras or hiding in a truck outside my house with a keystroke logging program or some gizmo no one knows about, is bored to tears.

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[mason.jar]

If you say so. Mason

[www.savebcsalmon.ca]

 

[beemer]

Hey Masonjar , I am pretty dialed it in these topics and trust me even though the technology does exist , Canada is not using it to bust some flatlander who keeps a "wild" salmon when he is not supposed to. There are random undercover operations that take place ,but no "system" in place.

We ALL have a responsibility to fish with a conscience and within the regulations. Some may not but most of us do.All the cameras
in the world will not stop those who choose to cheat the system.All you can say is that if you want your children or granchildren to experience the same thing you have,you have to follow the regs.

IMHO

beemer

 

[mason.jar]

Not specifically, how ever DFO is monitoring traffic in certain areas via this system. Including but not limited to these ports; Nanaimo, Vancouver, Victoria, Esquamalt, Prince Rupert. For instance, locally there are cameras viewing Departure Bay, Nanaimo Harbour, on Gabriola Island, Nanoose and other near by islands and high traffic marine areas. Some are positioned in order to view and zoom in on local RCA's. Locally the long range cameras have assisted DFO in Nanaimo. Mason

[www.savebcsalmon.ca]

 

[Sushihunter]

quote:Originally posted by mason.jar

Not specifically, how ever DFO is monitoring traffic in certain areas via this system. Including but not limited to these ports; Nanaimo, Vancouver, Victoria, Esquamalt, Prince Rupert. For instance, locally there are cameras viewing Departure Bay, Nanaimo Harbour, on Gabriola Island, Nanoose and other near by islands and high traffic marine areas. Some are positioned in order to view and zoom in on local RCA's. Locally the long range cameras have assisted DFO in Nanaimo. Mason

[www.savebcsalmon.ca]

I don't know about the system that you are talking about - this is the first that I've heard. But, the military does have a camera system overlooking the WG area. They have a house on top of a hill in Nanaimo somewhere that has the view they want and they have several cameras installed there. A number of years ago, one of the TV news shows did a report on it. Wish I could remember all the details.

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