black box

JDR

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I am thinking of getting a black box or similar. Checked my boat and am around.7 on the down rigger. Have tried every thing to lower the voltage. Everything is grounded to the batt.17 ft boat so no thru hull fittings. any suggestions, or should I get a box.
 
Box will work, or go with Dyneema downrigger cable and don;t bother with the voltage.

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Do you have a yank start kicker?Have you made sure that the downrigger ball is isolated from the downrigger wire?Dan
 
Checked uesde vic I guess its gone, I have a yank start kicker but have not checked it as I use my main mostly. 60 merc 4 stroke
thanks for in put Oh and balls are insulated via nylon cord( canon balls that is):D
 
From what I recall, 0.7 to 0.8 is the correct natural voltage. Any hotter you have a power leak. Any less and you don't have enough zincs.

I think 0.7 is perfect...good to go!
 
quote:Originally posted by juandesooka

From what I recall, 0.7 to 0.8 is the correct natural voltage. Any hotter you have a power leak. Any less and you don't have enough zincs.

I think 0.7 is perfect...good to go!

I don't know - I think that is just a little hot.

I set my black box to about 5.85 when targeting Chinook. 6.00 is what they recommend, a little more if fishing deeper than 100'

7 should be fine for Coho though.

Add more zincs and make sure they are fresh. Don't use a dirty wire brush on them - only a clean SS brush that will not get used for anything else - otherwise you contaminate the zincs and they stop working.

Good luck.


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0.7-0.85 is perfect it means your zincs are working but i would use a box and bring it down anywhere from .5-.65,or just keep adding brass spreader bars until you get where you want.
 
I usually dial in my BB at 0.7! Good for you: you are already there and you save the $ for the BB! Go and catch a slab now!
 
every commercial troller has them for a reason!!!! pnce u get it figured out its a great tool.
 
I don't use a BB. I have Spectra mono (spelling)on my downriggers. Do you only benefit from a BB if your running stainless cable?

Matador
 
Nope never used on never will just as good as some famous lures this topic has beeen so overdiscussed its now funny my boat personally sits at 6.4 and 6.8 if your inbetween 5 and 8 your fine we are talking very very minutes voltages its really not a factor type in black box ad do some reading.

If your at .7 you are at no problem what so ever

wolf

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quote:every commercial troller has them for a reason

Ok well I have a commercial black box with all sorts of dials and switches. I'll sell it to you for the price of a scotty and you can catch all the slabs.
 
YOU WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE FUN JUST CRANK THE BOX AND SEE IF THAT FISH IS COMING NEAR YOUR BOAT NOT LIKLEY. BLACK BOXS WORK!!!
 
Yup it works most important gear on my boat.I've done lots of testing and while anyboat will catch fish it does make a difference there's a reason Malcom rusell makes a living flying from place to place setting up boats to fish.It won't help if you have electrical leaks but if all the stars are aligned you will notice a difference.
 
If we get a shot at soceye this year the guys that have their box figured out will outfish those without for sure!!! Its also good when the humps are around, you can tune them out to a piont, and are not wasting all day shaking them. I find the pro troll just as good as the scotty, and alot cheaper.
 
quote:Originally posted by JDR

I am thinking of getting a black box or similar. Checked my boat and am around.7 on the down rigger. Have tried every thing to lower the voltage. Everything is grounded to the batt.17 ft boat so no thru hull fittings. any suggestions, or should I get a box.

Are you using steel cable on the rigger if so I would look at using down rigger line I like it better.
 
I strongly believe in them, Providing everything is set up properly.
I remember years ago when trolling commercially guys trolling next to us using same gear not catching a thing when we were pulling fish steady.
Even a few occasions when we could actually get fish following us in the prop wash, I even managed to gaff a few of those.
 
Trev i think you give that thing too much credit YOU are a good fisherman not the black box.

If someones boat is at .o7 as there natural reading its bang on if there is a problem with your boat and your electrical is out a black box isnt going to help you have other issues you have to fix.

How about this to think about we are fishing trap with another 150 boats around us boats going in every whacky direction the amount of voltage that is all over the place there no way you can tell me that if someone is at .064 and another boat at .07 and he doest get a fish its because of a black box????WTF cmon ..

and nobody knows what the voltage is down at the cannon ball do they??? at the boat yes out of the water but not down 70 ft we have NO clue and then how about 30 ft back isolated from all electricity as mono cannot carry a charge to your flasher and hook oh thats where the hook is on the bait that accualy catches a fish(or hooks it) never seen a hook on a black box!!!!!!LOL

Presentaion of the bait is 100% more important you have to figure out what the fish like for that day and color plays way more into what we do,

ive had lodge boats that read almost at 8 and I still got springs LOTS of them.

on a commercial boat yes as you really cant compare the two as they have way more electrical issues and way more gear in the water 100's hooks on 10 gurneys where a sport boat has 2 or 3 downriggers and maybe 2 to 4 rods tiny compared to a commercial VESSEL that is 80 ft long


Wolf




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You are right Wolf when you compare commercial trollers to your average sport fishing boat but i think some things are the same.
I have been in the middle of 200 trollers which use 2 sets of 3 spool gurdies and have a number of guys not catch fish using the same gear and and same leader length with a proper reading on their lines. It was the hull that was giving off a negative reading.Which was easily corrected with Anodes placed throughout the hull to control those readings, now I imagine that rings true with smaller boats just at a smaller scale.
Who knows?
 
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